Hot Start Issue

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Shaggin Wagon

Discussion Starter · Sep 6, 2009

My 90 mustang starts up fine when its been sitting. I can take it around the block and when I come back to the house, kill it and try and restart, it cranks real slow and wont start. I'm not sure if the starter is getting heat soaked. Maybe a timing issue? Any suggestions or ideas?

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Bad89stang

· #2 · Sep 6, 2009

Could be a combination of both. I had an issue with that in the past. I have my timing set pretty high, have long tubes and USED to have the old style starter.

Switched over to a mini starter. Put a starter blanket around it and dropped the timing a hair. Cured the problem. The heat makes the resistance very high in the starter circuit.

MrEd

· #3 · Sep 7, 2009

timing issue.
set the timing while its hot:wave:

STRONGNUFF

· #4 · Sep 7, 2009

Things to check, Timing too advanced, heatsoak on starter, battery.

Shaggin Wagon

Discussion Starter · #5 · Sep 7, 2009 (Edited)

The car is timed at 10 degrees. I do have long tubes though. I also think I dont have any shields for the starter. I'm thinking a heat soaked starter. Like I said, after it sets for awhile, it starts right up. Thanks for the advice!

Modular 5.4

· #6 · Sep 7, 2009

Looks like you're going in the right direction with the starter. Had the same issue with a few HMMWVs when I was in Iraq.

kennybo

· #7 · Sep 7, 2009

I had the same issue a few months back and it turned out to be the battery.

StellarKart

· #8 · Sep 7, 2009

Bad89stang said:
Could be a combination of both. I had an issue with that in the past. I have my timing set pretty high, have long tubes and USED to have the old style starter.

Switched over to a mini starter. Put a starter blanket around it and dropped the timing a hair. Cured the problem. The heat makes the resistance very high in the starter circuit.

When you say starter blanket, do you mean one of those heat wrap things that looks like a piece of tin foil?

Slow Five-O

· #9 · Sep 7, 2009

XDPS STANG RACER said:
The car is timed at 10 degrees. I do have long tubes though. I also think I dont have any shields for the starter. I'm thinking a heat soaked starter. Like I said, after it sets for awhile, it starts right up. Thanks for the advice!

long tube certainly don't help

pick up a mini starter from auto zone. i think they started using them on the 93 mustangs. more torque and helped mine!

Shaggin Wagon

Discussion Starter · #10 · Sep 8, 2009

Slow Five-O said:
long tube certainly don't help

pick up a mini starter from auto zone. i think they started using them on the 93 mustangs. more torque and helped mine!

Yeah, I know long tubes surely dont help. I didn't now that Vatozone sold mini starters. I thought I was gonna have to order one from summit or someone like that. Where would I find that header wrap, same place? Maybe that would be a good idea to go along with the mini starter.

Slow Five-O

· #11 · Sep 8, 2009

XDPS STANG RACER said:
Yeah, I know long tubes surely dont help. I didn't now that Vatozone sold mini starters. I thought I was gonna have to order one from summit or someone like that. Where would I find that header wrap, same place? Maybe that would be a good idea to go along with the mini starter.

i was having problems melting clutch cables years ago when i had long tubes, but TBH i can't remember where i got my heater wrap.

If you ask for a starter for a 93 mustang LX 5.0 it should be a mini starter.

wildman

· #12 · Sep 9, 2009

Years ago on my 71 coupe...351 cleveland built...same issue..wrapped headers..changed starter...changed battery...adjusted timing...never cured...just accepted it and dealt with it...good luck

Sickpony

· #13 · Sep 10, 2009

check the battery cables even if they look good they probably arent

Shaggin Wagon

Discussion Starter · #14 · Sep 10, 2009

wildman said:
Years ago on my 71 coupe...351 cleveland built...same issue..wrapped headers..changed starter...changed battery...adjusted timing...never cured...just accepted it and dealt with it...good luck

Living with it is not going to be a option. If I cant trust the car, dont need to have it. I'm going to vatozone this weekend and compare starters and and weigh my options there.

wildman

· #15 · Sep 10, 2009

I didnt mean for you to live with it.....i just did at the time....

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