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About to stop at a stop sign with my '01 GT when suddenly my brakes go out...Brake pedal goes straight to floor and then starts stopping (but i'm waaayy past the stop sign at this point). I'm close to a Tom Thumb so I pull in the parking lot to check it out. My brake fluid is really really low... Something is definitely wrong because I checked it the weekend before. I go into the store and buy some brake fluid and fill the reservoir. My house is really close by so I start driving home... Brakes work half ass the first time...but then hardly non-existent the second. Luckily its a 5-speed so I can slow down with my gears. I pull the car into the garage and to my surprise all of the brake fluid is gushing out of the passenger rear.

I get the car towed into North Central Ford the next morning to see wtf happened. They tell me that "an axle weld broke and cut a brake line and I have a crack in the floorpan". greeeaaaattt.....

At first they tell me that they think I hit something and i'll need to talk with my insurance. After a little bit of disagreeing with them, they call Ford and a Ford representative looks at the car. Next thing I know, they are flying in two "mustang specialists" from Detroit to take a look at my car and fix it. The service manager tells me that they explicitly told him not to let his techs "touch the car". They arrived on the 16th (last Monday) and I was told it would take a day and a half to fix. Tuesday I get a call telling me that the two "mustang specialists" are flying back to Detroit and that they want to put my car on a flatbed truck, drive it to detroit, fix it, then drive it back.

This seems really odd to me and the Service Manager whom stated that he's been there for like 10 years (I think he said 10) and that he's never seen them want to do this to a car before. Any Ideas?
 

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that is weird!!!

we had some ford guys come out to look at a car a while back. it was one of those flaming focus'. they have a bad habit of catching fire...
 

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Sounds to me like they may be trying to cover up something. I would push them and try to get some answers. It may be possible that something was screwed up and they want to avoid a lawsuit. Just an opinion but you never know.
 

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I beatcha the switch companys they get the lines from or changed something in the material. Your car is the first case of failure and they are possible looking at making a recall, to avoid lawsuits when people die from brake failure. You should be the first to sue them, for mental anguish. Form now on every time you come to a traffic light your going to wonder if it will stop, or if you are going to run over someone and kill them.
 

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FOG said:
I beatcha the switch companys they get the lines from or changed something in the material. Your car is the first case of failure and they are possible looking at making a recall, to avoid lawsuits when people die from brake failure. You should be the first to sue them, for mental anguish. Form now on every time you come to a traffic light your going to wonder if it will stop, or if you are going to run over someone and kill them.
Hell, tell them you want a brand new car to prevent legal actions.:p
 

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ALLAN said:
Scott that is crazy

can't you just tell them no???

how hard is it to fix the breakline....there must be something else wrong with the car
Well, our company lawyers' advice is to let them fix it first. Them fixing the car is admitting fault. The shitty part is..this isn't the first time my brakes have gone out. When my car was a week old, the serpentine belt "flew" off the pulley because a recalled water pulley wasn't replaced before I bought the car. Luckily I had taken S. Carrier Pkwy because of traffic on I-20...otherwise, I might have been going 80 MPH in rain without brakes..

oh, and its not just the brake line. The welding on a bracket broke on the axle (i don't know exactly where), and there is a big crack in the floorpan.
 

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ALLAN said:
Scott that is crazy

can't you just tell them no???

how hard is it to fix the breakline....there must be something else wrong with the car
BAD advice. Its a 2001. Should should not be dealing with such a problem yet. How often does Ford want to fix your car without making you pay for it? Make them fix it. Then if something ever happens, they are liable. Besides, you have a better chance it will be done right.

This may not be the first time they have seen this and they are trying to determine if its something that should be recalled. If its only a few cases, they may be trying to keep it quiet. Can you imagine the public outcry if a recall was issued that some very new Ford cars have problems with brake failures for a manufacturing defect? Especially since they are dealing with unsafe gas tanks, TFI recalls, the Ford Focus, Firestones, and
so many other high visibility claims.
 

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FOG said:
I beatcha the switch companys they get the lines from or changed something in the material. Your car is the first case of failure and they are possible looking at making a recall, to avoid lawsuits when people die from brake failure. You should be the first to sue them, for mental anguish. Form now on every time you come to a traffic light your going to wonder if it will stop, or if you are going to run over someone and kill them.
No, the service manager stated to me that a weld on a bracket came lose "on the axle" is how he said it. He then said that the brake line somehow got in between the bracket and something else and snapped it. To try to make me feel better (i guess), he told me in a "oh, its nothing" tone of voice that the brake line wasn't cut..it was just tore. Well, that makes ME feel a lot better. :)
 

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Frank said:
BAD advice. Its a 2001. Should should not be dealing with such a problem yet. How often does Ford want to fix your car without making you pay for it? Make them fix it. Then if something ever happens, they are liable. Besides, you have a better chance it will be done right.

This may not be the first time they have seen this and they are trying to determine if its something that should be recalled. If its only a few cases, they may be trying to keep it quiet. Can you imagine the public outcry if a recall was issued that some very new Ford cars have problems with brake failures for a manufacturing defect? Especially since they are dealing with unsafe gas tanks, TFI recalls, the Ford Focus, Firestones, and
so many other high visibility claims.
well they can fix it without taking the car to Michigan
:rolleyes:

it's not like these cars are new technology
 

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ALLAN said:
well they can fix it without taking the car to Michigan
:rolleyes:

it's not like these cars are new technology
Ya, I wish they would have....It better come back awesome, and this better be the last problem I have with this car. I could probably do the lemon law thing now, isn't it 3 things?

1.) Serpentine belt flying off in rain. (the recalled part was BEFORE i bought my car)

2.) Starter getting stuck which resulted in my car starting everytime I turned it off. (Even after I removed the KEY and dumped the clutch to kill it). A vacuum sensor (I think thats what it was) went out and made my "Check Fuel Cap" light come on.

3.) Brake line gets cut after weld on axle breaks.
 

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Ya, I wish they would have....It better come back awesome, and this better be the last problem I have with this car. I could probably do the lemon law thing now, isn't it 3 things?

1.) Serpentine belt flying off in rain. (the recalled part was BEFORE i bought my car)

2.) Starter getting stuck which resulted in my car starting everytime I turned it off. (Even after I removed the KEY and dumped the clutch to kill it). A vacuum sensor (I think thats what it was) went out and made my "Check Fuel Cap" light come on.

3.) Brake line gets cut after weld on axle breaks.
you can't do the Lemon Law
I bet this is your gremlins

remember back when everytime you touched my coupe something would break???
its all on you Scotty:p
 

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you can't do the Lemon Law
I bet this is your gremlins

remember back when everytime you touched my coupe something would break???
its all on you Scotty:p
rofl !! Its not my fault your 83 was falling apart and I just happened to be at the wrong place at the wrong time when it did!!! :)

Its ok, I'll probably end up with a cobra next year anywho.
 
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