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Concrete quote for 40x40 shop

I am in the process of gathering quotes for a shop somewhere between a 30x30 and 40x40. I have a couple quotes from Mueller for their steel buildings. They quoted me $5.25 p/sq ft for assembly ($8,400 for a 40x40) and $7-8.50 p/sq ft (up to $13,600) for concrete. I did a search on here and found that both can be had for a much more reasonable price. Can anybody recommend any companies who do either concrete or building assembly for a reasonable price?

For those that have built shops, is there anything you would have done differently?

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call the Mueller company in farmersville if i remember correctly. they have a list of guys that will handle everything from concrete to finish out. when i was looking at building a shop, the weld together buildings were much cheaper and stronger than the bolt together kits. concrete is an expensive bitch!!!!!

i think the guy i was going to work with was Mike Wylie and he had a concrete guy he worked with. I ended up having a problem with the city i live in and a 50ft set back that screwed my plans up!!!

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Figure out how thick you want the slab, any grade beams or anything and then figure a price of ~$90 a yard. Then hire 6 - 7 day laborers to form and pour it. I wouldnt think you'd be over $5000 on the deal. Then get a weld up bldg delievered and find a free lance welder to put it up, offer to hire day help to help him out.

What's the cost of materials for the building?

When my dad had his built he had a turn key guy, but the guy basically bought raw I-beam and C purlins and cut/fabbed the building himself. Had two or three guys helping him, and it turned out great. Where you're going to spend a ton is on the doors and finish out. I think dad's came out to right at $25k with an 18x9 door, two 12x9's and a 3070 door. He and I did all the wiring, lighting and plumbing on it so that saved some coin.

Then two weeks later I ran a backhoe into it.
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I requested that my quote go to the east Dallas office and have Greg Cabrera helping me, but like I said the price range given to me seemed a bit high. I did a search on here and seen that a fair price for foundation concrete was $4-5 p/sq ft, but that was late last year. Just wondering if the price of concrete has changed that much.

Would you happen to know of any good weld together companies that I could look into?

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Concrete has gone up drastically in the past few months. Last year prices fell quite a bit as everyone was fighting for market share, but now they have all banded together to force prices back up again. I don't see any signs of it getting any better, at least not until winter gets close.
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Grimpala,

I know I could save some money if I did some of the leg work myself, but the problem is I work in Afghanistan and my time home might be limited.

The cost of the building was: $13,829.94 +$235 for delivery and unload

Specs on the building: 40x40x12 with a 1:4 roof, insulated, 4 insulated windows, 2 personnel doors, and two 12x10 roll-up doors.

I sent an email to a guy that did my garage doors (he works for Overhead Door) for some quotes on electric roll-up doors in both 12x10 and 16x8 (haven’t decided what size doors I want to go with) so I am still waiting on his reply.

Electric and pluming I will do later; my goal right now is concrete and building assembly by October.

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Concrete has gone up drastically in the past few months. Last year prices fell quite a bit as everyone was fighting for market share, but now they have all banded together to force prices back up again. I don't see any signs of it getting any better, at least not until winter gets close.
If the concrete quotes from Mueller are accurate, then I might just go with a 30x30 shop.

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The cost of the building was: $13,829.94 +$235 for delivery and unload
Mueller builds quality stuff, but you might check out J&I Manufacturing in Oklahoma just across the border. They only do weld-up kits, but I'm probably going to go with them when I do one eventually. You'll need to figure out how to get it here, I was going to just go pick mine up myself. Here's current pricing for a weldup 40x40x12:

40' W X 40' L X 12' T BUILDING KIT

2 24' 3"x3"x11ga Tubing $ 2.20 $ 105.60
1 20' 3"x 3"x11ga Tubing $ 2.20 $ 44.00
15 16' 2 7/8" Sch 40 New .150 wall $ 1.74 $ 417.60
5 40' Truss $ 232.95 $ 1,164.75
10 Large Truss Gussets $ 6.99 $ 69.90
4 Anchor Plates $ 5.99 $ 23.96
60 20' 3" C Purlin $ 0.74 $ 888.00
28 22' Color Sheets $ 51.04 $ 1,429.12
28 12' Color Sheets $ 27.84 $ 779.52
16 14' Color Sheets $ 32.48 $ 519.68
12 16' Color Sheets $ 37.12 $ 445.44
4 10' Color Ridge Cap $ 14.49 $ 57.96
12 12' Color Corners $ 14.99 $ 179.88
5 10' Color J Shape $ 4.49 $ 22.45
1 10' x 10' Roll Up Door $ 354.95 $ 354.95
1 3' x 6'8" Alum Walk Door $ 139.95 $ 139.95
2250 3/4" Color Drill Screws $ 0.08 $ 180.00
750 7/8" Color Trim Screws $ 0.09 $ 67.50
28 Closure Foam $ 0.80 $ 22.40
14 Rolls Tacky Tape $ 1.99 $ 27.86

TOTAL $ 6,940.52

INSULATION KIT
6 Rolls 3" x 100' x 6' Insulation $ 179.95 $ 1,079.70
1 Roll 3" x 50' x 6' Insulation $ 89.95 $ 89.95
4 Rolls 2 Sided Tape $ 9.95 $ 39.80
2 Roll Patch Tape $ 15.95 $ 31.90
Upgrade to 1 1/4" Screws $ 112.50
8 10' Color Angle 1 1/2"x5" $ 8.29 $ 66.32

INSULATION KIT TOTAL $ 1,420.17

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how high would a shop need to be to install a car lift in there and be able to stand under the car

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how high would a shop need to be to install a car lift in there and be able to stand under the car
The Rotary 10k asymmetrical lift is 11' 8.5" high and should be tall enough to lift a mustang with plenty of room to walk under it. If, for whatever reason, you need additional height they have options to extend the height up to an additional 3 feet. So to answer your question, 12 feet tall.

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For an engineered slab (which you will have to do in any city), expect about $5.75 per ft. for post tension, or $6.00 for full steel (rebar). Engineering runs about $325 and includes a pre-pour inspection. The guy I use has a 4000psi mix with fibers in the slurry. It makes for a SPECTACULAR slab with no cracks what-so-ever, whether it's post-tension or not.

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Mueller builds quality stuff, but you might check out J&I Manufacturing in Oklahoma just across the border. They only do weld-up kits, but I'm probably going to go with them when I do one eventually. You'll need to figure out how to get it here, I was going to just go pick mine up myself. Here's current pricing for a weldup 40x40x12:
Thanks for the info, i will look into them.

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We will grade and pour post tention for around $6 sq ft fully guaranteed for a year. You get what you pay for I can promise you that. You should be looking in the 5.50-6.50 for a good quality pour.

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Grimpala,

I know I could save some money if I did some of the leg work myself, but the problem is I work in Afghanistan and my time home might be limited.

The cost of the building was: $13,829.94 +$235 for delivery and unload

Specs on the building: 40x40x12 with a 1:4 roof, insulated, 4 insulated windows, 2 personnel doors, and two 12x10 roll-up doors.

I sent an email to a guy that did my garage doors (he works for Overhead Door) for some quotes on electric roll-up doors in both 12x10 and 16x8 (havenít decided what size doors I want to go with) so I am still waiting on his reply.

Electric and pluming I will do later; my goal right now is concrete and building assembly by October.

I'll talk to dad and see who he used. The guy did a very nice job on it, 5 years in use and the only issue is where I ran the backhoe into it. No major cracks in the slab, no leaks.
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For an engineered slab (which you will have to do in any city), expect about $5.75 per ft. for post tension, or $6.00 for full steel (rebar). Engineering runs about $325 and includes a pre-pour inspection. The guy I use has a 4000psi mix with fibers in the slurry. It makes for a SPECTACULAR slab with no cracks what-so-ever, whether it's post-tension or not.
Mind shooting me his info? I don't mind paying for a quality product. I don't want my concrete to turn out like my neighbor's driveway. It turns into a lake every time it rains, but I guess that's what you get when you go with lowest bidder.

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That's actually a pretty reasonable price here in California. For our concrete company, we charge way more than that. But I saw your location being in Afghanistan, the prices for concrete are probably much lower.
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I understand that concrete can be a bit expensive compared to other type of fixations. However, it looks great and is also durable compared to steel which can get a bit rusty. Depends on what kind of business you want to run though...
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Two years ago the price for foundation concrete was $5-6 p/sq ft. I don't know now. USAS
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