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Die Hard trivia question

How does John know Hans is Hans, so he gives him the unloaded gun? This has boggled me for years.

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im pretty sure he unloaded it to see what he was gonna do with it. he didnt know until he pointed at him. i think... its been a few months since ive seen the movie.
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im pretty sure he unloaded it to see what he was gonna do with it. he didnt know until he pointed at him. i think... its been a few months since ive seen the movie.
nah, he takes the magazine out, puts it back in, cocks it and hands it to him. Then after all was said and done he says: "Whoops, no bullets. What you think Im fucking stupid, Hans?" Like he knew the whole time.

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That's because he is John McClane, that's why


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nah, he takes the magazine out, puts it back in, cocks it and hands it to him. Then after all was said and done he says: "Whoops, no bullets. What you think Im fucking stupid, Hans?" Like he knew the whole time.



When he was on on top of the elevator after killing whathisfacees bro he could see him(sorta)/hear his voice.
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He is testing hans the whole time... unsure of who he is.
He asks him his name.. to check it against the conveniently placed office number/ nameplate... a test Hans passes.
He offers Hans a german cigarette out of the pack he took off the last dead guy.... Hans takes it and says nothing about it being a german cigarette (most smokers would look to see what someone was offering and if it was coming out of a pack they had never seen before, would most likely ask what they were. Since Hans is german, its just a regular brand cig for him).... test failed....or inconclusive at best.

Since he still didnt know who Hans was he hands him the gun (unloaded) as the final test.

Thats how I see the scene.

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This Clip????



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QjBcexgpXYs

Hans had picked a name off of the directory, McClain may have known who Bill Clay was.

EDIT: not sure why the embed isn't working

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He is testing hans the whole time...He offers Hans a german cigarette out of the pack he took off the last dead guy.... Hans takes it and says nothing about it being a german cigarette (most smokers would look to see what someone was offering and if it was coming out of a pack they had never seen before, would most likely ask what they were. Since Hans is german, its just a regular brand cig for him).... test failed....or inconclusive at best.

Since he still didnt know who Hans was he hands him the gun (unloaded) as the final test.

Thats how I see the scene.
I agree. I always thought the cigarette test was it. John comments early on how bad the terrorists' cigarettes are. I always thought the giveaway was not only Hans not mentioning the packaging, but Hans taking a few drags off of it as well without commenting.
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he probably just read the script.

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He is testing hans the whole time... unsure of who he is.
He asks him his name.. to check it against the conveniently placed office number/ nameplate... a test Hans passes.
He offers Hans a german cigarette out of the pack he took off the last dead guy.... Hans takes it and says nothing about it being a german cigarette (most smokers would look to see what someone was offering and if it was coming out of a pack they had never seen before, would most likely ask what they were. Since Hans is german, its just a regular brand cig for him).... test failed....or inconclusive at best.

Since he still didnt know who Hans was he hands him the gun (unloaded) as the final test.

Thats how I see the scene.

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Just watched the scene and thought of this thread. After Hans says he's Bill Clay, it shows that Clay WM is on the 29th floor...tada!! Only people in the building were on the Nakatomi floor...was referenced a few times before the scene. Immediately after that, McClane unloads the gun and hands it to him.
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Just watched the scene and thought of this thread. After Hans says he's Bill Clay, it shows that Clay WM is on the 29th floor...tada!! Only people in the building were on the Nakatomi floor...was referenced a few times before the scene. Immediately after that, McClane unloads the gun and hands it to him.
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I just figure that in a skyscraper with a bunch of terrorists, I'm not handing a complete and total stranger a loaded weapon.
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This thread prompts another good question, why can't we embed videos in the Television, Movies, and Music Forum, of all forums? It makes me want to shoot the glass.
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This thread prompts another good question, why can't we embed videos in the Television, Movies, and Music Forum, of all forums? It makes me want to shoot the glass.
Because we'd be posting vids like crazy. I'm sure it's a bandwidth thing.
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This thread prompts another good question, why can't we embed videos in the Television, Movies, and Music Forum, of all forums? It makes me want to shoot the glass.
No shit. I've often wondered why.

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