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Saw IV

Who's gonna go see this. I like the 1st and 3rd one. 2nd one was ok. I'll probably go see it this weekend.
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post #2 of 36 (permalink) Old 10-24-2007, 11:21 AM
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They need to give it up...
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They need to give it up...
Exactly.

Saw 1 was a good idea.

Saw 2 made me not want to see any others.

It's going to become as dull as the Nightmare on Elm Street or Friday the 13th series if they continue. Hell, it might even be that way now.
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i didn't even know that there was a saw 3! lol
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yep, i want to see it!


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Saw 1 and 2 was alright. Saw three was horrible. Not gonna waste my money on four.

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When I saw the commercial, I was like, "damn, another one". We might see it or wait for DVD.
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I got suckered in on the first 3 despite not likeing any of them hoping for redemption from the previous ones. No such luck and each time I came out further in debt, squandering away precious minutes of my life. I'll be damned if I see the 4th. 3 strikes they are out.
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I do have to admit, the idea and concept behind the movie is pretty brilliant. Thought the third one sucked but I'm interested to see how this one turns out.

Over five thousand years ago, Moses said to the children of Israel, "Pick up your shovel, mount your asses and camels, and I will lead you to the Promised Land." Nearly 75 years ago, Roosevelt said,"Lay down your shovels, sit on your asses, and light up a camel, this is the Promised Land." Now Obama has stolen your shovel..., taxed your asses, raised the price of camels and mortgaged the Promised Land!
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I only watched the first one and from what I've heard it's better off that way.

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I only watched the first one and from what I've heard it's better off that way.
Consider yourself lucky. I only saw the first two, and that was bad enough.

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I actually liked the first one, the first time I, ahem, saw, it. The second time, not so much. The second movie blew. Didn't bother with the 3rd after such a lackluster performance in the second.
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Nope. My girlfriend and friends are going to see it friday night while i'm up in Denton at the track. Fuck a bunch of that shit, no way in hell i'd see it.

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I might go see it. I kind of like the other ones, but the 3rd one was kind of predictable.
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ill be seeing it sometime this weekend..either tomorrow night or sunday during the day. ill let ya guys know what i thought.

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I watched it online last night... not a bad movie... kind confusing cause it goes back and forth alot.... not surprised at the ending though.

Over five thousand years ago, Moses said to the children of Israel, "Pick up your shovel, mount your asses and camels, and I will lead you to the Promised Land." Nearly 75 years ago, Roosevelt said,"Lay down your shovels, sit on your asses, and light up a camel, this is the Promised Land." Now Obama has stolen your shovel..., taxed your asses, raised the price of camels and mortgaged the Promised Land!
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I saw it Friday afternoon....was not impressed. I loved the first one, but with each sequel, the quality has diminished from the previous release....Saw IV was no exception. I either got lost, or they fucked up the time line.

Someone help me remember (as I was on 3 hours of sleep and just finished a 6 hour drive), what was on the tape that was in Johns stomach?
THIS DOESN"T GIVE ANYTHING AWAY.....



It was Jigsaw telling the rules of the next game to the detective. Basically what starts the whole movie out.

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I heard about the going back and forth. Guess I'm gonna wait for DVD.
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Basicly most of saw 4 has the same timeline as saw 3.. It did get a little confusing.

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eh fuck it...it is such a wild ass sequence of events, I am not giving anything away....but if you haven't seen it and don't want to know what is going on, don't read the rest of this.........




hell, the writer couldn't even keep his time line straight.....I thought that tape is what started that black detective on his test...which is why it is kind of stupid...with him ending his test at the same time John is killed in the 3rd movie....how is that possible? Was I just too fucking tired and wasn't paying attention? Did I just drink waaaaaaaaay to much this weekend? (entirely possible).

IF YOU DON'T WANT TO KNOW THE MOVIE... DON"T READ THIS.







Well I want to know how he was in the morg and in the hospital bed from the 3rd one at the same damn time. I didn't get that. Also... how the hell did the guy from the 3rd one that made it through everything wearing the pajamas just show up? I'll agree, the timeline is very messed up. They said that Donnie Walbergs character had been missing for 6 months, but how is that possible because parts of the movie make it seem like all of that happened just a day or two after the 3rd movie. I definitely need to see it again to piece it all together.

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IF YOU DON'T WANT TO KNOW THE MOVIE... DON"T READ THIS.




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seems like we both had the same problem with the timeline....did not make sense at all....although Donnie's charachter was out of Saw II wasn't it? That is kind of plausible I guess.....but whatever, wasn't the greatest movie in the world for sure.

Ok I'm caught up on it all, it makes sense. Read this:

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Simple explaination here: Detective Hoffman (Costas Mandylor) is placed in a room with Eric Matthews (Donnie Wahlberg) and Jigsaw middleman Art (Justin Louis), who all have intricate death instruments attached to them. When Officer Rigg (Lyriq Bent) makes it into the room before time expires, he triggers the trap that kills Matthews by crushing his skull, but not before Matthews fires a single shot into Rigg's chest. Art plays a tape, which has Jigsaw's (Tobin Bell's) voice explaining that the purpose of this movie's game was to test his obsession. As his obsession led to the deaths of all those he tried to save, he failed, and he shoots Art in the head before Art can release himself. Hoffman unties himself and gets up, revealing that he is the new Jigsaw, as was revealed by discussion earlier in the film.

Now this is the confusing part:

Even though there is an FBI investigation going on at the same time as these events, it is important to understand that the events of SAW IV take place at the same time as the events of SAW III.

That's why when FBI agent Strahm (Scott Paterson) breaks into the room with Jeff in it (from III) and kills him, Jigsaw's dead body is there. The tape played at the beginning of the movie is removed AFTER everything has happened, so that Hoffman can continue Jigsaw's work with little police interference. It turns out Hoffman was in on Jigsaw's plan from part III as well. Amanda (Shawnee Smith) knew Hoffman was apprenticing with Jigsaw as well, so everything was in place long ago.

As for how exactly Jigsaw got a hold of Hoffman and inspired him to follow in his footsteps...well, we'll find out in SAW V, won't we?

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DON"T READ THIS IF YOU HAVENT SEEN THE MOVIE

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I understood everything but this.....the timeline still does not make sense to me. I thought the tape in the stomach was for Rigg, is it not?


The beginning of the movie is actually the very end, after everything happened. The tape was for the detective that's now taking jigsaws place. I think they just make it appear that the scene is the beginning of the movie. The tape doesn't say anything about Rigg. It just states that Jigsaw assures his work will continue.

Over five thousand years ago, Moses said to the children of Israel, "Pick up your shovel, mount your asses and camels, and I will lead you to the Promised Land." Nearly 75 years ago, Roosevelt said,"Lay down your shovels, sit on your asses, and light up a camel, this is the Promised Land." Now Obama has stolen your shovel..., taxed your asses, raised the price of camels and mortgaged the Promised Land!
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I also want to know why there wasn't a tape for the two guys at the very beginning. That really surprised me. There was no TV or tape message for the two men to inform them why they were there or how to escape their trap.

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those two guys showed up in the middle of the move..at least one did, at the clinic. Did not have a prominent part, but I swear it was him..the bald guy. Was that guy with the stiches over his mouth not that Art guy? For some reason I got that impression.
See I thought the guy that had his mouth sewen shut was the lawyor guy, the one who was watching the monitors in the end.

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The more you two go back and forth, the more it makes me wanna see it.
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See I thought the guy that had his mouth sewen shut was the lawyor guy, the one who was watching the monitors in the end.

It was... I thought there was a tap or something for that first part?

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It was... I thought there was a tap or something for that first part?
There was, but it wasn't until after the big guy died. Which it basically said congratulations you survived.

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