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Thumbs up Traded the Glock for this....

Got tired of not being able to fire lead bullets. And am a little concerned about repeatedly firing +P ammo.

Since that is what I'm used to, I decided to buy the S&W equivalent: Sigma .40 S&W

Factory trigger is about a 10 - 12 lb. pull. And I really like the grip. I've got a little seat time with it. And, of course, I did exactly what I thought I would do first time out. I fired a little low to the target. I'm pulling the muzzle down due to the heavy pull. What's really awesome about this gun is buying different brand cheap ass FMJs and no FTE or stovepipes. I fed 150 rounds into this thing using the cheapest crap FMJ ammo I could find. And it loves it.

I like this much better than the 9mm. This thing has some balls. Reliable and cheap at least by reputation. Have a buddy with the same model and has never had a single FTE/FTF problem over the years.

Anyone else on here with a Sigma series pistol? Your thoughts?

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I had one several years ago and it was great. Not one hiccup ever.
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I had one several years ago and it was great. Not one hiccup ever.
Cool. That's the kind of feedback I was hoping to hear. Going the cheap route is usually not a good idea, but I think this particular firearm is the exception to the rule.

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I had a sigma 40 and didnt like it at all. I HATED the trigger on it. Only good thing about mine was I paid $99 for it when I bought my AR.

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Buying a storm lake barrel for the glock would have been a better option.
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Yeah, sorry bro but I dont think you are going to find many that will say positive things about the Sigma's other then the price. I have owned a few and would not buy another.
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Ah, the glock exodus. I knew you guys would come around. Since everyone is bitching about the trigger, why not lighten it up?
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Did you literally trade a Glock for a Sigma? Someone definitely came out on top of that deal and it wasn't you!
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Haven't been in a while. Last time I bought some it was from Starline. I haven't loaded or bought any new components in quite a while.


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Thanks. I appreciate the feedback. I realize the trigger pull on this gun is not suited to everyone's taste. I like it so far. I particularly like how it fires whatever crap .40 cal s&w ammo you throw at it.

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Thanks. I appreciate the feedback. I realize the trigger pull on this gun is not suited to everyone's taste. I like it so far. I particularly like how it fires whatever crap .40 cal s&w ammo you throw at it.
and your glock didn't? Almost all of these polymer guns will feed damn near anything. Are you planning on reloading? If you're not, you're never going to encounter lead cast bullets. LOL

You made a mistake, IMO. If you like it, then rock and roll.

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Unless the glock was broken you got screwed.

What makes you say that you can't shoot cast lead bullets out of a Glock? That's news to me; I guess that I really haven't been doing it all these years. So where have all of those cast bullets hand loads that I spend my weekends producing go to?

If you shoot enough of them you will discover that some Glock barrels will shoot lead just fine while others will not. You will be able to tell which ones won't within a magazine or two.

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I did not like mine. The trigger pull on them is fucking annoying and I would have liked it more if it had a safety mechanism of some sorts instead of the weird half trigger thing.

Felt good with a slip on hogue grip, though.
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but i had an old ruger p95 cheap as hell, but i loved that gun! it would eat anything.

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Got tired of not being able to fire lead bullets. And am a little concerned about repeatedly firing +P ammo.

Since that is what I'm used to, I decided to buy the S&W equivalent: Sigma .40 S&W

Factory trigger is about a 10 - 12 lb. pull. And I really like the grip. I've got a little seat time with it. And, of course, I did exactly what I thought I would do first time out. I fired a little low to the target. I'm pulling the muzzle down due to the heavy pull. What's really awesome about this gun is buying different brand cheap ass FMJs and no FTE or stovepipes. I fed 150 rounds into this thing using the cheapest crap FMJ ammo I could find. And it loves it.

I like this much better than the 9mm. This thing has some balls. Reliable and cheap at least by reputation. Have a buddy with the same model and has never had a single FTE/FTF problem over the years.

Anyone else on here with a Sigma series pistol? Your thoughts?

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You want my thoughts. owned one for about two weeks then sold it. but I guess for a gun that cost 269.99 brand new what can you say.

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Ah, the glock exodus. I knew you guys would come around. Since everyone is bitching about the trigger, why not lighten it up?
All you following the exodus hit me up before you get rid of them.
I have owned alot of hand guns and hated glock at first but now
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Please tell me you got some cash with that deal. A Sigma is pretty much worthless used. I've shot one one time and after shooting 1 magazine through it I would assume to never shoot one again. By far the worst feeling pistol I've even shot. I don't own a single gun I would trade for that, not even a model 60.

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Please tell me you got some cash with that deal. A Sigma is pretty much worthless used. I've shot one one time and after shooting 1 magazine through it I would assume to never shoot one again. By far the worst feeling pistol I've even shot. I don't own a single gun I would trade for that, not even a model 60.
A model 60 is actually a hell of a rifle. LOL

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Yeah, I am hoping you got some cash on the deal. Sigmas are not known for anything good really.

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I have a Sigma .40 and a Glock .40 with, that being said I would never trade a Glock for a Sigma. If you had wanted to shoot lead through your Glock you should have purchased a Wolf, KKM, or other after market barrel.
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Ouch, you got raped on that deal unless you got some cash to boot....

To each his own I guess, but you could by 2 used sigmas for the price of a used glock so a straight trade is out of the question....

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A model 60 is actually a hell of a rifle. LOL
I wasn't saying its a junky rifle, it just happens to be the cheapest gun I own. I love my model 60, but they are a dime a dozen and I still wouldn't trade it.

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I wasn't saying its a junky rifle, it just happens to be the cheapest gun I own. I love my model 60, but they are a dime a dozen and I still wouldn't trade it.
I know, that was my point. As cheap and plentiful as the model 60 is, it still happens to be a hell of a rifle.

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I've never heard of Glocks having an issue shooting cheap FMJ?? Seems like all the glock haters would be bringing that up more? Where are you getting this info? - Edit: I looked it up myself, but have never heard of these issues with the numerous amount of people I know with glocks.

Also yes, if anyone else hates their Glock and wants to sell it for half of what its worth, please PM me.

AND.. didn't you kinda defeat the purpose of shooting cheaply by going from 9mm to .40?
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I've never heard of Glocks having an issue shooting cheap FMJ?? Seems like all the glock haters would be bringing that up more? Where are you getting this info?

Also yes, if anyone else hates their Glock and wants to sell it for half of what its worth, please PM me.
They don't have a problem.

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1. I'm sorry I didn't clarify. I got the Sigma + tons of ammo + some cash.

2. For those that think that Glocks don't experience leading have obviously been very fortunate. Or you are shooting harder cast with Alox. I experienced leading with cheap range ammo just after about 200 rounds. I did consider upgrading the barrel, but I have been wanting to jump to a larger caliber for some time.

3. Field strip a Glock 19 and closely examine the breech. Tell me you don't see any areas for concern with higher internal ballistic pressures.

4. I appreciate all of the feedback good or bad. I personally like this Sigma .40 more than the Glock. It's a very good gun for the price. At least IMO. I don't mind the heavy pull, but that's easily fixed for those who don't by a spring kit you can get from S&W. Or any gunsmith can tweak the existing springs. Moral of the story: I'm not a baller. Can't afford the Sig I wanted at this time.

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400 rounds + $200 cash? If not, FAIL.
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Hated my sigma by the time I traded it in. More than a magazine or two through it and trigger finger got sore. It was better than the nothing I had before it but I don't miss it now that it's gone.

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I've never heard of Glocks having an issue shooting cheap FMJ?? Seems like all the glock haters would be bringing that up more? Where are you getting this info? - Edit: I looked it up myself, but have never heard of these issues with the numerous amount of people I know with glocks.

Also yes, if anyone else hates their Glock and wants to sell it for half of what its worth, please PM me.

AND.. didn't you kinda defeat the purpose of shooting cheaply by going from 9mm to .40?
Ask 03trublu, he had a glock 17 blow up in his hands.
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I had one and never had any problems with it. Seems like I read somewhere it was a first gen glock copy and S&W got sued over the trigger system.
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My SW9VE was a very accurate shooter and felt nice in the hand. The trigger was pretty shitty. Like all DAO triggers, it feels better with use. It's a great pistol for the money. It'll eat whatever you feed it and go bang every time.

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Ask 03trublu, he had a glock 17 blow up in his hands.
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400 rounds + $200 cash? If not, FAIL.
Thats pushing it. A glock isn't worth THAT much.... Thats almost saying the gun is worth nothing at all and saying a glock is worth 550$+ used.

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Was shooting a .40 Glock at the river back in 1999.

Everything was just fine until it had a wierd recoil and smoke came out the top and bottom.

I noticed the magazine had shot out of the bottom and the top of the slide was ramped up. I tilted the gun to look at the chamber and it was gone.

Not broken, GONE!

The entire chamber had disentigrated and took the brass with it. There was enough pressure to get the projectile down range..

I was shooting WWB (although the pistol had probabably thousands of rounds of reloads through it beforehand). I called Glock in Smyrna GA, and they told me to send the pistol to them.

I shipped it to them and they said that the could not prove or disprove that I was shooting factory ammo, so since blame could not be found, they offered to sell me a brand new gun/mags/etc for cost. Since the gun wasn't mine, I was obligated to replace it. I paid $230 for a brand new gun and have never owned a Glock since.

Not that I don't like them, but I'm a little gun shy of them because of that.

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Lol ouch. I have heard about some glocks doing that. Just have never seen it. I am perfectly happy with my sigs and springfields!

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Was shooting a .40 Glock at the river back in 1999.

Everything was just fine until it had a wierd recoil and smoke came out the top and bottom.

I noticed the magazine had shot out of the bottom and the top of the slide was ramped up. I tilted the gun to look at the chamber and it was gone.

Not broken, GONE!

The entire chamber had disentigrated and took the brass with it. There was enough pressure to get the projectile down range..

I was shooting WWB (although the pistol had probabably thousands of rounds of reloads through it beforehand). I called Glock in Smyrna GA, and they told me to send the pistol to them.

I shipped it to them and they said that the could not prove or disprove that I was shooting factory ammo, so since blame could not be found, they offered to sell me a brand new gun/mags/etc for cost. Since the gun wasn't mine, I was obligated to replace it. I paid $230 for a brand new gun and have never owned a Glock since.

Not that I don't like them, but I'm a little gun shy of them because of that.

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Damn! That makes me feel even more confident about my decision.

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It (from what I learned) was an issue with the unsupported chamber design (WTF that means, I'm not an engineer) of the .40 cal.

I have not heard or seen of the 9mm or .45 ACP doing the same thing.
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I shot over 1000 rounds through my Glock 21 and never had an issue, this was running 30 & 15 rd magzines during a hunting trip, came home cleaned it took it to the range a few months later and never had a problem. I sold it and always missed it. So last year for bday my wife bought me a G-32 other than my Sig 229, this is the best pistol I have owned.
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It (from what I learned) was an issue with the unsupported chamber design (WTF that means, I'm not an engineer) of the .40 cal.

I have not heard or seen of the 9mm or .45 ACP doing the same thing.
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post #49 of 60 (permalink) Old 10-21-2010, 06:18 PM
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I shot over 1000 rounds through my Glock 21 and never had an issue, this was running 30 & 15 rd magzines during a hunting trip, came home cleaned it took it to the range a few months later and never had a problem. I sold it and always missed it. So last year for bday my wife bought me a G-32 other than my Sig 229, this is the best pistol I have owned.
Maybe for xmas my wife will buy me a Delta....
I have a delta, great gun. I think Glocks are very dependable. I just don't like how they shoot, feel, or the safety. I would trust my life to one, I just wouldn't own one. The primarily reason is I think they are ugly as hell. Outside of that I don't have any issues with them.
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I have a delta, great gun. I think Glocks are very dependable. I just don't like how they shoot, feel, or the safety. I would trust my life to one, I just wouldn't own one. The primarily reason is I think they are ugly as hell. Outside of that I don't have any issues with them.
I agree, they are pretty ugly.

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