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does anyone in here bullet swage?

I'm curious if anyone on the board does this. Looking to start swaging .223 bullets.
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I've looked into it but kinda expensive to get into at first, but could be very nice in the long run.
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Do you plan to swag them out of copper or lead? I've bought swagged and hard cast .30 bullets and loaded them in .308 & 06. They work great in old worn out rifles but you have to load them lite. Other than price I can't think of an advantage that they offer.

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i have 2 safes full of guns, and i have no idea what you just said.

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Swagging is a process of forming bullets by pressing cold metal into a mold. That method of forming makes a bullet that is very cost effective while being a better quality bullet then a cast or hard cast bullet. You can load swagged bullets to a higher velocity then you can cast bullets. Un-jacketed lead bullets will leave large metal deposits in the bore if they are driven at too high of a velocity. What that velocity is can be found via the process of trial and error.

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so the cold metal is pliable at room temp?

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It is pliable if you squeeze it hard enough.

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i am sure i could google this, but i assume some sort of tool is used to press it into the mold?

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i am sure i could google this, but i assume some sort of tool is used to press it into the mold?

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I had to Google it to know WTH he was talking about. The one I saw looked basically like a single stage reloading press on steroids.

It sounds like a cool/fun idea, but I'll probably start with reloading and get good at that, and then maybe one day start making my own bullets. CJ is a few years ahead of me...

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Essentially bullet swaging for .223 is turning .22lr brass into bullets. They are surprisingly accurate and almost completely free. Basically you use dies to punch off the rim on a .22LR case, then drop in lead wire for the core, and press the case into a cone and you get a hollow point bullet. Only thing is the dies cost 600+. That's how rcbs came to be - Rock crusher bullet swaging.

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wow... watched this guys other video on swaging .40sw into .45acp bullets and its a lot of freaking work. My time isnt that valuable but I think Id just buy some bullets and reload myself.

If you dont have to cut the case and anneal it for .223, it might be worth while.

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I'm curious if anyone on the board does this. Looking to start swaging .223 bullets.
Gimme a call. The guy who's property we went to shoot makes his own bullets.
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You need to take your phone off silent home dog.

.223 is considerably easier than the pistol calibers, and you get what looks exactly like a bullet.



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That all looks like a huge pain in the ass. Pass.
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That all looks like a huge pain in the ass. Pass.
You have to have an appreciation for knowledge, and learning. Some people want to buy their ammo, some want to take the next step.
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You have to have an appreciation for knowledge, and learning. Some people want to buy their ammo, some want to take the next step.
I'd take a first step when I have a secure job...

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You have to have an appreciation for knowledge, and learning. Some people want to buy their ammo, some want to take the next step.
I have an appreciation for knowledge and learning.

I also have an appreciation for the UPS man, his pallet jack, and my front porch.
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I have an appreciation for knowledge and learning.

I also have an appreciation for the UPS man, his pallet jack, and my front porch.
I didn't think you could turn that into a brag.
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I didn't think you could turn that into a brag.
It was a solid one.

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I think the company is called Corbin.

Too expensive for me. I stick to reloading and casting for 45 ACP.

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