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Running low on Cash and cleaning out the closet.
I used to work for a Armored truck company a couple years back
where i had purchased a Duty vest. i dont even plan in going back into
that field of work and was wondering if anybody knows, if i do sell the vest and falls in the wrong hands if the can find out who the original owner was?
i know i paid 400+ for it and its still in new condition any info would help especially if you are law enforcement.
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Running low on Cash and cleaning out the closet.
I used to work for a Armored truck company a couple years back
where i had purchased a Duty vest. i dont even plan in going back into
that field of work and was wondering if anybody knows, if i do sell the vest and falls in the wrong hands if the can find out who the original owner was?
i know i paid 400+ for it and its still in new condition any info would help especially if you are law enforcement.
thanks
Why would it matter? I was under the impression that these were not illegal in anyway.
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They expire, may want to check and see if the date has passed.
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Expire? for what?
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they sell those on ebay so they should be legal

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Expire? for what?
They do expire, and also depending on the conditions its seen i think they're good for 5yrs
What brand and level is it
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arent they illegal to wear?

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arent they illegal to wear?
No.

Its legal for you to own a vest and wear it.

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casually i mean
its illegal for a convicted felon to own posses or wear body armor at anytime.

i don't agree with that law but it is what it is,illegal for felons.

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Like said above. Legal to own and wear. I bring my stuff home from Afg about once a year and never have any issues with customs or the airliners. Heck I have even carried it on board and stashed it in the overhead bin. That was recent (1-2 yrs ago).
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its illegal for a convicted felon to own posses or wear body armor at anytime.

i don't agree with that law but it is what it is,illegal for felons.

Unless they have a letter from their employer saying that body armor is required for them to perform their work functions.

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Unless they have a letter from their employer saying that body armor is required for them to perform their work functions.
Where is that clause?

Sec. 46.041.UNLAWFUL POSSESSION OF METAL OR BODY ARMOR BY
FELON.
(a)In this section, "metal or body armor" means any body
covering manifestly designed, made, or adapted for the purpose of
protecting a person against gunfire.
(b)A person who has been convicted of a felony commits an
offense if after the conviction the person possesses metal or body
armor.
(c)An offense under this section is a felony of the third
degree.

Added by Acts 2001, 77th Leg., ch. 452, Sec. 1, eff. Sept. 1, 2001.
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Where is that clause?

Sec. 46.041.UNLAWFUL POSSESSION OF METAL OR BODY ARMOR BY
FELON.
(a)In this section, "metal or body armor" means any body
covering manifestly designed, made, or adapted for the purpose of
protecting a person against gunfire.
(b)A person who has been convicted of a felony commits an
offense if after the conviction the person possesses metal or body
armor.
(c)An offense under this section is a felony of the third
degree.

Added by Acts 2001, 77th Leg., ch. 452, Sec. 1, eff. Sept. 1, 2001.
This law preempts ALL state laws and that preemption has been upheld every time by the Federal courts and so far as I can find a person has never been convicted for owning armor who used this statute as a defense to prosecution. I can cite reams of case law if you would like for me to.

U.S.C. 931 : US Code - Section 931

(a) In General. - Except as provided in subsection (b), it shall
be unlawful for a person to purchase, own, or possess body armor,
if that person has been convicted of a felony that is -
(1) a crime of violence (as defined in section 16); or
(2) an offense under State law that would constitute a crime of
violence under paragraph (1) if it occurred within the special
maritime and territorial jurisdiction of the United States.
(b) Affirmative Defense. -
(1) In general. - It shall be an affirmative defense under this
section that -
(A) the defendant obtained prior written certification from
his or her employer that the defendant's purchase, use, or
possession of body armor was necessary for the safe performance
of lawful business activity; and
(B) the use and possession by the defendant were limited to
the course of such performance.
(2) Employer. - In this subsection, the term "employer" means
any other individual employed by the defendant's business that
supervises defendant's activity. If that defendant has no
supervisor, prior written certification is acceptable from any
other employee of the business.

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That's nice.

But in the mean time the guy gets arrested, has to make bond, gets filed on and then gets his case maybe dismissed later on down the road....


There's an old saying, "You can beat the wrap, but you can't beat the ride"...

Oh, and I love your dislcaimer: so far as I can find a person has never been convicted for owning armor who used this statute as a defense to prosecution.
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it is not a defense to prosecution if:
1. suspect is a dumbass convicted felon in posession of body armor.

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You are damn right about beating the wrap but not the ride. A good ending to the following story cost nearly 60k.


It is a defense to prosecution. My buddy is an old Vietnam vet who killed 2 people who needed killing when he came home in 65'. The judge found him guilty but agreed that the men killed needed to be killed and gave my friend a five year suspended sentence making him a felon. He is now a repo man and has been doing it for 40 years; I hired him for a job and that is how I met him. He NEEDS body armor where he plys his trade and had to research a way to have it legally when the state passed laws against him owning it. He was arrested for having it by an over zealous sheriffs deputy who caught him trying to repo his girlfriends car and was convected in a state court. The conviction was over turned by the 5th US district court forever setting a prescient for TX state courts to follow. Reading all of his legal work is where I became familiar with the laws pertaining to this subject and I am the person who wrote the letter stating his need for it to safely do his work.

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You are damn right about beating the wrap but not the ride. A good ending to the following story cost nearly 60k.


It is a defense to prosecution. My buddy is an old Vietnam vet who killed 2 people who needed killing when he came home in 65'. The judge found him guilty but agreed that the men killed needed to be killed and gave my friend a five year suspended sentence making him a felon. He is now a repo man and has been doing it for 40 years; I hired him for a job and that is how I met him. He NEEDS body armor where he plys his trade and had to research a way to have it legally when the state passed laws against him owning it. He was arrested for having it by an over zealous sheriffs deputy who caught him trying to repo his girlfriends car and was convected in a state court. The conviction was over turned by the 5th US district court forever setting a prescient for TX state courts to follow. Reading all of his legal work is where I became familiar with the laws pertaining to this subject and I am the person who wrote the letter stating his need for it to safely do his work.
I should add up all the supporting evidence I find that cops are just out there to charge any body with anything. God forbid they actually do their job instead of just ensnaring everyone they can find within the legalize.
but hey just like our founding fathers warned in this country - when the law runs out of ppl to convict , they'll just make everyone a criminal.
I wish I could "doing mah job" like cops do! fuck em all! what a jack booted thug attitude.

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I should add up all the supporting evidence I find that cops are just out there to charge any body with anything. God forbid they actually do their job instead of just ensnaring everyone they can find within the legalize.
but hey just like our founding fathers warned in this country - when the law runs out of ppl to convict , they'll just make everyone a criminal.
I wish I could "doing mah job" like cops do! fuck em all! what a jack booted thug attitude.
Convicted felon perhaps?

Or just a few too many tickets for breaking the law?
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