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Front Sight Training has their handgun course on a special (through Patriot News) for $99-bucks (Monday through Thursday course). It's normally $2,000 ~!

last week, it was $69 and over the weekend to $89. Now it looks like $99...

http://www.ignatius-piazza-front-sig...ining-history/
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Front Sight Training has their handgun course on a special (through Patriot News) for $99-bucks (Monday through Thursday course). It's normally $2,000 ~!

last week, it was $69 and over the weekend to $89. Now it looks like $99...

http://www.ignatius-piazza-front-sig...ining-history/
Ya...saw that. My problem is taking the 5 days off, flight ticket there, car rental there, and the hotel stay (and food).

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You also have to sit thru all their time-share bullshit. The guy that runs it is a Ponzi scheme con artist and not a gunfighter. Google Front-site scam for more info.

If you want some really good defensive pistol training or more advanced force-on-force gunfighting at a resonable price .... there is a guy in Tyler named Glenn Mathews that does a great job. You'll get much better training at a cheaper overall price.

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I have always thought that any handgun tactical training is pointless. In a situation where I had time to plan or grab something, I would reach for a rifle or a shotgun. In a situation where I didnt have any sort of time to think, my training would go out the window and my adrenaline would be pumping like a mofo.

My uncle who has been a police officer since 1982, and is now on Dallas homicide said that in every shootout he has seen, you do not have time to aim but rather shoot from cover.

If I were to take a handgun course, I would want it geared more toward competition like IPSC or something, where I could really get competitive and improve my speed/accuracy while on a course.
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I have always thought that any handgun tactical training is pointless. In a situation where I had time to plan or grab something, I would reach for a rifle or a shotgun. In a situation where I didnt have any sort of time to think, my training would go out the window and my adrenaline would be pumping like a mofo.

My uncle who has been a police officer since 1982, and is now on Dallas homicide said that in every shootout he has seen, you do not have time to aim but rather shoot from cover.

If I were to take a handgun course, I would want it geared more toward competition like IPSC or something, where I could really get competitive and improve my speed/accuracy while on a course.
If you are ever able to take a force-on-force gunfighting class, I think you will change mind. IPSC is great if you want to play shooting games. Don't get me wrong, I had a great time and met a lot of friends shooting IPSc. But in the end, it is just a game, nothing more. F-O-F is much closer to the real thing.

Force-on-force is a full contact martial art with an emphasis on shooting. Think of it as MMA with a gun. It involves house clearing, shooting from cover, shooting on the move, grappling, etc. In a typical F-O-F course, you will get kicked, punched, stabbed, thrown, shot (airsoft) by your opponent and you will do the same to him.

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Don't get me wrong, I had a great time and met a lot of friends shooting IPSc. But in the end, it is just a game, nothing more. F-O-F is much closer to the real thing.
I am a civilian shooter, not a soldier or peace officer. Shooting is a game/sport to me primarily.

Sure I have a firearm for protection, but the primary purpose of almost all of my firearms is for recreational use.
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You also have to sit thru all their time-share bullshit. The guy that runs it is a Ponzi scheme con artist and not a gunfighter. Google Front-site scam for more info.

If you want some really good defensive pistol training or more advanced force-on-force gunfighting at a resonable price .... there is a guy in Tyler named Glenn Mathews that does a great job. You'll get much better training at a cheaper overall price.
Might have to check into him. Was thinking into checking into this place as well:
http://www.tacproshootingcenter.com/

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I am a civilian shooter, not a soldier or peace officer. Shooting is a game/sport to me primarily.

Sure I have a firearm for protection, but the primary purpose of almost all of my firearms is for recreational use.
I'm a civilian, and shooting the gun is fun, but to me it is about defense...or food. When I shoot recreational, it's to improve my self and get the conditioning/muscle memory I'll need if the defensive situation ever arises.

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i shoot as i will fight

unless im hunting.

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I'm a civilian, and shooting the gun is fun, but to me it is about defense...or food. When I shoot recreational, it's to improve my self and get the conditioning/muscle memory I'll need if the defensive situation ever arises.
Fair enough, I shoot to improve my accuracy and have a good time. I never want to take a man's life, but I feel like I would if I had to out of self defense.

Like I said though, most of my guns are for recreation. I have some hunting rifles I use for various game animals, pistols for target shooting and competition, and a smith and wesson j-frame as my defense gun.

I love shooting and going to the range, but I am never "training" myself in preparation to fight.
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If you have the time, this is a great class. Sept 25 and 26 in Tyler. It is being taught by Roger Phillips who is one of the best instructors out there.

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Damn! I'd love to take that class for that price, it would be worth the travel and expenses IMO. I'll have to look into that class in Tyler, thanks for the link.




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If you Google Front Sight Training reviews, there are quite a few positive comments. You no longer have to listen to "time share" sales and the lawsuit is over.

For me, airfare, hotel & rental car are moot. I travel so much, that I could live anywhere in the world for several months for free. I still have over a million miles on AA in my account, and I gifted a hefty portion to charity for tax purposes :-)
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