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Personal defence ammo

What is everyone using? I have never used anything else except federal hydra-shok. Is there a better round out their?

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That will suffice.

Any premium self defense ammo will be good to go.
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I've got Corbon and Speer Gold Dot.

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What caliber do you carry? If it is a 9mm then I would recommend Winchester Ranger 127gr +P+ T-Series RA9TA. It is hands down the best 9mm that I have ever seen; you can't even hand load them this hot. If you carry any other caliber any of the top grade stuff will work just fine.


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What caliber do you carry? If it is a 9mm then I would recommend Winchester Ranger 127gr +P+ T-Series RA9TA. It is hands down the best 9mm that I have ever seen; you can't even hand load them this hot. If you carry any other caliber any of the top grade stuff will work just fine.


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Depending on the powder, you can handload any caliber hotter than factory. Of course you will chance blowing up your gun and various body parts if you choose to ignore the maximums on the load tables.
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I use Winchester HP's in my .357 Sig, and Winchester Silvertip HP's in my 10mm...
Winchester has a new personal defense ammo I picked up last week from Walmart. $30 for 20 rounds of .45 .... but im really impressed, the HP jacket is bonded to the lead and seamless with no core exposed, much higher quality than wwb hps.
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CJ can you post a pic? I wonder if some one/ company has done ballistic tests? I'm sure they have.
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Depending on the powder, you can handload any caliber hotter than factory. Of course you will chance blowing up your gun and various body parts if you choose to ignore the maximums on the load tables.

I have tried a few over max loads but have not be able to get them going any faster then the Win RA9TA and I was using 124g XTP bullets. It is one HOT load. Wish I knew what powder they were using.

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Winchester has a new personal defense ammo I picked up last week from Walmart. $30 for 20 rounds of .45 .... but im really impressed, the HP jacket is bonded to the lead and seamless with no core exposed, much higher quality than wwb hps.
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I have tried a few over max loads but have not be able to get them going any faster then the Win RA9TA and I was using 124g XTP bullets. It is one HOT load. Wish I knew what powder they were using.
Pull a round and take a look at the powder. I would think it has to be a common "off the shelf" powder. You just don't make a proprietary powder and keep it secret.

Hodgdon, Reliant, IMR, Winchester, Accurate are the most popular powders. I used to load some Red, Blue, and Green Dot loads. I also used to load some very good rounds with a powder that looked like tiny little donuts, but I can't remember what it was...
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Is that the black box stuff that looks like this?

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Pull a round and take a look at the powder. I would think it has to be a common "off the shelf" powder. You just don't make a proprietary powder and keep it secret.

Hodgdon, Reliant, IMR, Winchester, Accurate are the most popular powders. I used to load some Red, Blue, and Green Dot loads. I also used to load some very good rounds with a powder that looked like tiny little donuts, but I can't remember what it was...
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Even though I do use 'defense' ammo , I gotta admit there is nothing wrong with FMJ IMO.

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Even though I do use 'defense' ammo , I gotta admit there is nothing wrong with FMJ IMO.
Except that it keeps going...and going...and going...

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Even though I do use 'defense' ammo , I gotta admit there is nothing wrong with FMJ IMO.
Seriously? You're high.

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LOL! Tiny little donuts??
Yea, the concept was that a donut shape had a high amount of surface area for a complete, fast, and uniform burn.
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I've been trying to find good defense ammo in .380. A buddy suggested - http://www.extremeshockusa.com - their website is cheesy, but there some cool videos.

I do know some guns do not like the "+P" ammo, even though it is cambered in the same round.
Just something to keep in mind.
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Is that the black box stuff that looks like this?

Yep! Thats it. Apparently my memory of the price sucks.
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I use Federal HST (147 9mm). If you shop around, you can get a good deal on it. Ammunitiontogo usually has some in stock that LEO ordered but didn't purchase (or so they claim ).

I tried it out a few years ago after reading a test w/ several different JHP's and ballistics gel. Does massive damage to a pumpkin--flowers nicely and stays attached to the jacket.

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Shit...all my stuff is just range ammo. However, I feel confident that a couple of shots center mass with my 30-30 or 9mm will do the trick, regardless.

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Shit...all my stuff is just range ammo. However, I feel confident that a couple of shots center mass with my 30-30 or 9mm will do the trick, regardless.
and probably go through a couple walls to boot!

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i've got remington golden sabers. look nice but no idea how good they are. i've never shot them.
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i've got remington golden sabers. look nice but no idea how good they are. i've never shot them.
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Never shot them? Hope your not betting your life on those rounds than

Those are good rounds. I've carried them before, and felt comfortable doing so.
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Those are good rounds. I've carried them before, and felt comfortable doing so.
yes, but i bet jose was saying he is carrying them not knowing if they would cycle in his pistol.

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yes, but i bet jose was saying he is carrying them not knowing if they would cycle in his pistol.

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it's a good point, i guess it would be wise to go through 1 mag to make sure it doesn't have any problems.
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Corbon DPX. The 9mm expands to .75" and it's solid copper so the it's not going to fragment and lose penetration.


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How do people test these rounds? Obviously, I'd like to try some out and see the results first hand, but don't feel like getting the needle so killing some mofos just for that reason ain't gonna work.

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Corbon DPX. The 9mm expands to .75" and it's solid copper so the it's not going to fragment and lose penetration.

Copper is brittle.

Just look at the ends of the "talons". There is going to be fragments.
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How do people test these rounds? Obviously, I'd like to try some out and see the results first hand, but don't feel like getting the needle so killing some mofos just for that reason ain't gonna work.
Human analog (pigs) or ballistic gel.
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Copper is brittle.

Just look at the ends of the "talons". There is going to be fragments.
I'm not saying it doesn't happen, but every test i've read maintained 100% of the bullets mass. Even with rifle rounds.

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I'm not saying it doesn't happen, but every test i've read maintained 100% of the bullets mass. Even with rifle rounds.
Plus that copper is going to be expensive.
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Plus that copper is going to be expensive.
Well, I always planned on recovering the copper from the perp with my trusty Gerber pocket knife for recycling.

It's about $1.50 every time I pull the trigger. But who cares how much it cost if you're only going to buy a few boxes of the stuff anyways. I've cycled two boxes to ensure it feeds properly. Then I have a box for defense.

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I've got the Federal Hydra-shox in my .45 and .40

I know at the end of last year everyone seemed to be looking for the Hornady Critical Defense as the latest and greatest.

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and probably go through a couple walls to boot!
who gives a shit.
people have been shooting each with FMJ's for a 100 years , right ?
I mean if I lived in an apartment.... maybe that would be unwise, but in houses
if i have to shoot somebody the last thing i care about is the bullet
i care about aiming and it going boom when i want
I'm talking pistols here, not rifles
I don't really believe rifles seem that necessary unless you live on a ranch or something.
pistol ammo will shoot through soft stuff easily but a 2x4 or brick will normally stop it. of course there are exceptions to everything...

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who gives a shit.
people have been shooting each with FMJ's for a 100 years , right ?
I mean if I lived in an apartment.... maybe that would be unwise, but in houses
if i have to shoot somebody the last thing i care about is the bullet
i care about aiming and it going boom when i want
I'm talking pistols here, not rifles
I don't really believe rifles seem that necessary unless you live on a ranch or something.
pistol ammo will shoot through soft stuff easily but a 2x4 or brick will normally stop it. of course there are exceptions to everything...

Besides the overpenetration problem you've touched on. If the bullet is simply passing through the perp, you're not utilizing all the bullets energy. FMJ have no knock down power, they pass through like a laser. Unless it's a nervous system shot, you're not going to instantly stop somebody with a bullet.

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Besides the overpenetration problem you've touched on. If the bullet is simply passing through the perp, you're not utilizing all the bullets energy. FMJ have no knock down power, they pass through like a laser. Unless it's a nervous system shot, you're not going to instantly stop somebody with a bullet.

Hand gun bullets don't have much energy in the first place. If you could come up with a way to measure it I'd bet ya big money that I can punch with more energy that most common hand gun loads produce at the muzzle. The difference is that the energy from my fist is spread out over a much larger area and lacks the penetrating power that is needed to cause the type of injuries that can stop or kill quickly. The recoil that you feel in your hand from the gun kicking is EXACTLY how hard the bullet hits its target.

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Copper is brittle.

Just look at the ends of the "talons". There is going to be fragments.
I've dug these bullets out of hogs and coyotes and they almost always weigh the same as they did coming out of the box. There is nearly always 100% weight retention. 10mm & .357 are what I have hunted and killed with. When I have some info regarding .430 bullets I'll post it.

Buy a box of them and look inside the cavity in the nose of the bullet and you will notice that that they are scored inside and the metal tears open along those scoring marks.

They are also really F'n expensive.


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Hand gun bullets don't have much energy in the first place. If you could come up with a way to measure it I'd bet ya big money that I can punch with more energy that most common hand gun loads produce at the muzzle. The difference is that the energy from my fist is spread out over a much larger area and lacks the penetrating power that is needed to cause the type of injuries that can stop or kill quickly. The recoil that you feel in your hand from the gun kicking is EXACTLY how hard the bullet hits its target.
I realize the bullet doesn't magically become a sledgehammer when it exits the barrel knocking the target off his feet and sending him through a wall. Thanks to Newton we know that. The ability to disrupt an individuals functions, whether it kills them or not, however, is stopping power. I'm just saying any hollow point has much more stopping power then a comparable FMJ and there's no good reason to use FMJ unless you're shooting through barriers.

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hollow point also has more of a chance to fail to penetrate deep enough.
No matter how you look at this, FMJ's work fine for something like a pistol.
penetration is the most important part of hunting. Whether the bullet dissipates all it's energy or not may not be as important as it reaching what you aimed for.

look again , I carry defense ammo and I prefer it
But everyone acting like it's a necessity are foolish. Pistols are generally weak firearms, they barely do the job you need them to. That's why you shoot many bullets at them!

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