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A friend of mine is taking me hog hunting. He says I can't go wrong with a 30.06. I saw a remi 760 and a savage 111 @ the
gunshop right at my price range which is'nt much due to short notice. REALLY, I don't own a rifle aside from my .22 and very new to them so I don't know which one would work best. There was also a 243, but he also said he would take me deer hunting and from what i've read a 243 might not be enough to drop them with out tracking. Any suggestions on these or any other rifles would be apperciated. TIA.

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A friend of mine is taking me hog hunting. He says I can't go wrong with a 30.06. I saw a remi 760 and a savage 111 @ the
gunshop right at my price range which is'nt much due to short notice. REALLY, I don't own a rifle aside from my .22 and very new to them so I don't know which one would work best. There was also a 243, but he also said he would take me deer hunting and from what i've read a 243 might not be enough to drop them with out tracking. Any suggestions on these or any other rifles would be apperciated. TIA.
Remington 700's are good guns. I have both .243 and .30-06 calibers. If you could swing it, that's the route I'd go. Between the choices you have listed, I' probably take the Savage.

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They are used guns. Can't get a new one right now. So yea I could swing it, lol.
I wanna say they had .270 also, but idk what model. I've always thought the remi was a "better" gun than a savage??? The remi is a little cheaper tho.

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That particular Remington is crap. That being said if you get a fairly light rifle in .30-06 the can have a pretty harsh recoil look into .308 or .243. The .243 is fine as long as the right bullet is used.
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I seem to remember a thread within the last couple years that detailed why not to buy a newer production Rem 700.

Here it is.

https://www.dfwstangs.net/forums/showthread.php?t=399890

That said, I currently own a Rem 700 made in 2008. I have not looked at the issues pointed out in the video, so I don't know if this guy got a lemon or if it's the norm.

That said, there are other manufacturers out there that make rifles that are just as good as (if not better than) a Rem 700 for about the same price.

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That particular Remington is crap. That being said if you get a fairly light rifle in .30-06 the can have a pretty harsh recoil look into .308 or .243. The .243 is fine as long as the right bullet is used.
So what bullet is good for hogs/deer in a .243?

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80-100 gr Nosler Partition.
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Couple of questions to help us help you....
What is your price range?
Hunting hogs? From a stand, brush, field? How far?
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Depends where you will be going deer hunting, the .243 is ok for most Texas deer with good shot placement but a bit light for big bodied West Texas mule deer and big South Texas deer; It will work but IMHO the .270 or 30-06 is better.....

I would take the Savage 111 over the Remington 760....and would find out the model of the .270.
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Hogs are not as tough as people think. I've killed plenty of them with a .223 rem.

You can't go wrong with a 30-06 either, it will kill any North American game animal.

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You can also find 30-06 and .270 ammo anywhere but it is much harder to find the 243 loaded with Nosler Partitions....
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Couple of questions to help us help you....
What is your price range?
Hunting hogs? From a stand, brush, field? How far?
I have no idea if its from a stand or brush. He didn't really give me any details. I just know he's taking a couple of us out with him. As for my price range, and the short notice I only have 400.00 to play with. From what I've seen, I should be able to buy a good gun.

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A co-worker of mine was going on about...if he had to buy another rifle it would buy a .270 due to less kick and faster, flater shot. Might have to check those out aswell. Any input?

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A co-worker of mine was going on about...if he had to buy another rifle it would buy a .270 due to less kick and faster, flater shot. Might have to check those out aswell. Any input?
Dude, seriously, do a search. This has all been very well covered.

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A co-worker of mine was going on about...if he had to buy another rifle it would buy a .270 due to less kick and faster, flater shot. Might have to check those out aswell. Any input?
less kick compared to what?

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less kick compared to what?
Exactly. A .270 has decent recoil on it. It has the same as a 30-06 which neither are a joke.



Hog hunting in brush I like semi-auto or lever action rifles, from distance weather field or stand bolt or single shot is fine.

$400 is a decent budget, but will pretty much eliminate any semis, but can score you a nice bolt gun. With optics either look used or at some of the Savage package rigs. Stay away from the Remington 770 packages, they are shit.

As far as caliber a .243 is more then fine. Most kids start off with a .243 for hunting deer, and thousands of deer have been killed with it. If you decide that you like hunting put that one away for small game/varmints and get you a bigger caliber.
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You can't go wrong with a .270 or a 30-06. I shoot an old remmington chambered in 7mm Rem Mag and love it. My dad shoots an '05ish Savage 110 chambered in .270 and loves it. I'd shy away from the .243, but it's up to you, all will kill if needed and shot placement is good.
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Bass pro has both the Mossberg 100 and Savage packages for under $400 including tax.

If it were me, and I was going to go with a bigger round, and not spend much I would shoot for one of the packages I mentioned in .308 before I went .270 or 30-06....
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Keep in mind that .308 may look smaller than a .30-06 but in they use the same size bullet and in most factory rounds they perform the same or very close.
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less kick compared to what?
less than a 30.06 he said.

I got me a marlin .270 bolt gun today. Thanks for your input.

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less than a 30.06 he said.

I got me a marlin .270 bolt gun today. Thanks for your input.
I have a Rem 700 in .270 and it kicks like a mule

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As far as caliber a .243 is more then fine. Most kids start off with a .243 for hunting deer, and thousands of deer have been killed with it. If you decide that you like hunting put that one away for small game/varmints and get you a bigger caliber.
Yep, I've said it a hundred times on here. I used my Model 70 .243 for some of the large African Plains game without any issues. I've shot more hogs than I can count with it as well.

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less than a 30.06 he said.

I got me a marlin .270 bolt gun today. Thanks for your input.


The .270 has damn near the exact recoil as the 30-06, you will see shortly....
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The .270 has damn near the exact recoil as the 30-06, you will see shortly....
I was thinking that when I read his post.O well we tried to warn him, maybe it has a decent recooil pad on it.
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I was thinking that when I read his post.O well we tried to warn him, maybe it has a decent recooil pad on it.
Yep...
Looks like the .270 has 17.0 and the 06 has 17.6
Will find real quick he wont be shooting for fun with that gun. When I bought my Encore I bought it with the .270 barrel and ordered the 7-08. I sighted it in and hunted it once as a .270 while waiting for the 7-08, and even with the limbsaver it hit like a fuckin train..
Wont feel it when you are hunting thanks to the adrenaline rush, but aint a sport shooter, especially in the light ass Marlin!
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My only "deer" rifle is a Model 94 30-30 lever action with some old no name 3-9x40 scope. Bought it new in '79, added the scope 5 or 6 years later. It's the only rifle I've ever owned. We only hunt around Glen Rose though, lots of brush and undergrowth. The 94 is tailor made for this type of terrain.
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Yep...
Looks like the .270 has 17.0 and the 06 has 17.6
Will find real quick he wont be shooting for fun with that gun. When I bought my Encore I bought it with the .270 barrel and ordered the 7-08. I sighted it in and hunted it once as a .270 while waiting for the 7-08, and even with the limbsaver it hit like a fuckin train..
Wont feel it when you are hunting thanks to the adrenaline rush, but aint a sport shooter, especially in the light ass Marlin!
Exactly why I don't even want my .270 anymore. My brother says he wants it, but has yet to come up with any kind of payment for it.

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Yep...
Looks like the .270 has 17.0 and the 06 has 17.6
Will find real quick he wont be shooting for fun with that gun. When I bought my Encore I bought it with the .270 barrel and ordered the 7-08. I sighted it in and hunted it once as a .270 while waiting for the 7-08, and even with the limbsaver it hit like a fuckin train..
Wont feel it when you are hunting thanks to the adrenaline rush, but aint a sport shooter, especially in the light ass Marlin!
My true carry hunting rifle is a old FN mauser made around 48' in .30-06 complete with water/cape buffalo horn butt plate it kicks like a mule but feels and points better than anything else.
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The .270 has damn near the exact recoil as the 30-06, you will see shortly....
haha can't wait, and its ok that it kicks guys I don't care. As far as for the range goes, I Won't be using it too much. I'm try and enjoy it as much as I can. Thanks again. oh, and I saw a real nice .17hmr in camo

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haha can't wait, and its ok that it kicks guys I don't care. As far as for the range goes, I Won't be using it too much. I'm try and enjoy it as much as I can. Thanks again. oh, and I saw a real nice .17hmr in camo
Ahhh, from your posts it seemed you were concerned with it. 243 to a 270 is a HUGE difference.
The .270 is a good solid hunting round for sure, just not much fun shooting unless there is an animal on the other end....
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You wouldnt have happened to buy that rifle from a J. Henderson from Tyler did you?
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