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Kimber Sucks

Geeze, I knew they were getting bad, but not this bad-

http://full-auto.org/viewtopic.php?f...st=0&sk=t&sd=a


Pages upon pages of dissatisfied customers. I am glad I bought a Colt.
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Damn, are they really that bad?

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Geeze, I knew they were getting bad, but not this bad-

http://full-auto.org/viewtopic.php?f...st=0&sk=t&sd=a


Pages upon pages of dissatisfied customers. I am glad I bought a Colt.
Dont you have a Kimber 84?
How do you like it?
I have no complaints at all out of my Kimber UCII
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Dont you have a Kimber 84?
How do you like it?
I have no complaints at all out of my Kimber UCII
I have a Kimber 8400, and I have been reasonably satisfied with it, that being said I will not be purchasing a Kimber pistol.
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You can find dissatisfied customers from ANY product.

Just put "Colt 1911 sucks", "Springfield Armory sucks", or any other company into a Google search.

You'll find that not every product is perfect, and people like to bitch.

Just like there are those that hate Ford, Chevy, Dodge, etc...

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You can find dissatisfied customers from ANY product.

Just put "Colt 1911 sucks", "Springfield Armory sucks", or any other company.

You'll find that not every product is perfect, and people like to bitch.

Just like there are those that hate Ford, Chevy, Dodge, etc...
While this is true, kimber seems to consistently release shoddy products. I bet that over half of the kimbers with "Custom Shop" proudly sribbled on the frame have never seen the inside of a custom shop. Not to mention that several board members have sent their guns back to kimber to get worked on.
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Damn, are they really that bad?
A gunsmith I know told me their quality had really started to slip a few years ago. At that time he predicted the QC issues would eventually cause major problems for the company. Maybe that is coming to pass now.

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While this is true, kimber seems to consistently release shoddy products. I bet that over half of the kimbers with "Custom Shop" proudly sribbled on the frame have never seen the inside of a custom shop. Not to mention that several board members have sent their guns back to kimber to get worked on.
It seems that a lot of the Kimber sucks comments always start with "My (insert: friend / family member) had tons of problems"

Kimber's are a middle of the road "semi-custom" 1911 maker, they just happen to have a big name. I've had a couple of pistols that have been rock solid, and one that took a little tweaking. After a few hundred rounds and a small adjustment to the extractor it worked flawlessly. They feed hollow points well, and they make a great running 3" model which isn't common in a 1911. The 4" models have notoriously weak recoil springs which cause a lot of return to battery issues, but that is a simple fix with a call to wolff. For what they go for on the street, (not msrp) they are a decent bargain for what you get IMHO.

I'm sure most of their shit is production line these days lol

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A gunsmith I know told me their quality had really started to slip a few years ago. At that time he predicted the QC issues would eventually cause major problems for the company. Maybe that is coming to pass now.

PS: Diggin' the shit out of the Duel pic in your sig!
Alot of manufacturers are trending that way, not just in guns...



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Want a good reliable inexpensive 1911.... Get a Rock Island and spend about $50 on some Wilson Combat upgrades.... viola.
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Want a good reliable inexpensive 1911.... Get a Rock Island and spend about $50 on some Wilson Combat upgrades.... viola.
Although I dont disagree RIA a good gun, it is and I love mine, but there is definatly a major difference in craftsmanship when you pick up something like a nice springer or custom shop 1911. It dont matter how many bells and whistles I put on my rock, it will never have the fit and finish as a quality 1911.

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I have owned (and still do) an number of kimber 1911's they have gone the way of colt and springfield and a number of others using plastic mainspring housings, crap parts and so forth.

That being said there are a couple things to note.
the guy in the post is comparing a TLE(production gun) to a TRP(custom shop gun) If he had compared it to the springfield production gun the same basic flaws (slide fit, crap throat, plastic parts) would still be there. Come by the shop anytime and I'll show you. If you want a custom 1911 buy a wilson, les baer, ect

BTW the guys out at advanced gun works are building a 1911 ground up using what looks like a lot of STI parts nice looking gun and reasonable Cabela's has em in the library

One thing I will give Kimber an edge on is customer service They produce a reasonable product for a reasonable price. An tho I do love Colts and own a bunch I as well as many I know will not buy anything after the "enhanced" series came out and I know a bunch that won't touch even series 80's pistols.
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Geeze, I knew they were getting bad, but not this bad-

http://full-auto.org/viewtopic.php?f...st=0&sk=t&sd=a


Pages upon pages of dissatisfied customers. I am glad I bought a Colt.

Geez,

You do realize that that thread was started in November of 2007 and the last post was made December of 2008, right?

I'm sure Kimber has made a few pistols since that thread was alive.
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Just put "Colt 1911 sucks", "Springfield Armory sucks", or any other company into a Google search.
Tried "H&K Sucks" and got to page 5 of the search results before I found a complaint. It was about "Da Trigga" and the $1000 price tag....

As far as Kimbers go, I've only shot two, both fairly new and appeared to be clean / lubed. Both jammed repeatedly.
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Tried "H&K Sucks" and got to page 5 of the search results before I found a complaint. It was about "Da Trigga" and the $1000 price tag....

As far as Kimbers go, I've only shot two, both fairly new and appeared to be clean / lubed. Both jammed repeatedly.
I'm finding that a LOT of 1911s have jamming issues out of the box, regardless of brand. Some just need a little more work than others to get to a reliable state.

A true custom 1911 should never have FTF or FTE issues out of the box, but Kimber is more of a production firearm these days, not a custom. I'm not sure I would classify it as a semi-custom anymore either.

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I'm finding that a LOT of 1911s have jamming issues out of the box, regardless of brand. Some just need a little more work than others to get to a reliable state.

A true custom 1911 should never have FTF or FTE issues out of the box, but Kimber is more of a production firearm these days, not a custom. I'm not sure I would classify it as a semi-custom anymore either.
I always laugh my ass off at die-hard 1911 guys who explain to me that _______ brand is great, and all they had to do was send it back to _______ to get fixed and now it should be running great.
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I always laugh my ass off at die-hard 1911 guys who explain to me that _______ brand is great, and all they had to do was send it back to _______ to get fixed and now it should be running great.
I guess I should have qualified my post with "assembly line 1911s"...a true custom should NEVER have problems out of the box.

I've heard of Colts, Kimbers, SAs, etc that needed work out of the box. I'm not a brand nuthugger and don't own a 1911 yet, but will soon. Yes I am looking at Kimbers, but have not ruled out SAs or Colts.

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my kimber stle II always worked awesome. cmarsh wont give his up either. Kimber makes excellent 1911s dont let internet talkers fool you. Try one for yourself.
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my kimber stle II always worked awesome. cmarsh wont give his up either. Kimber makes excellent 1911s dont let internet talkers fool you. Try one for yourself.
I have shot and handled several. After having done that, I decided on a Colt.
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Never had a problem with my Kimber Custom Classic II either but it's from 2002 so maybe just the new ones suck. I don't know but I've shot thousands of rounds through it and never had a hiccup. Google anything and you'll find a group of people that hate something for the same reason.




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Guy I went hunting with last weekend had a kimber. I dont know anything about them. It was a 9mm, but looked like a 1911. Jamed on every single round. Failure to extract.

My springfield 1911 didnt have a single issue.

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hell everyone thought para sucked but i beg to differ.

and to think i could have bought 1 over priced junk kimber for the price of 2 flawless para's.

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I have shot and handled several. After having done that, I decided on a Colt.
This. Maybe its because my Colt is a Series 80 and has been worked in, but the Kimbers I've shot don't even come close to the solidness of my Colt. The only issue I had was when I bought 8 round aftermarket mags. I popped in the original 7 rounders and no issues.

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I have this pistol:

http://www.kimberamerica.com/product...pro_tle_rl_II/

There are NO issues that are illustrated above (rust, poor slide to frame fit, casting pits, etc). I bought the gun in Feb of 2009. The only thing I can say that is not to my liking is the plastic mainspring cover, but I can fix that easily.

Honestly, if you buy a gun and don't inspect it, then it's your own damn fault.

Don't buy something and then bash it. What does that say about the owner?

There are alot of people that will pick it to pieces that don't even own one.
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Guy I went hunting with last weekend had a kimber. I dont know anything about them. It was a 9mm, but looked like a 1911. Jamed on every single round. Failure to extract.

My springfield 1911 didnt have a single issue.

He was shooting reload though, so that could definently be the problem.

He could also have been limp wristing it...
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I've never owned any kimbers. all my 1911s are colt/ithica. What is the primary concern.
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Colts are what you show combat, because they are built to last.

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No, they are good combat guns because of the loose tolerances. They are therefore not as accurate, but I equate them to the AK47 of handguns.

A real Colt from years ago was very loose. You could shake the gun and it would rattle like a can.
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lol! i got a colt delta elite that is worth at least the same as most kimbers, so there goes that statement...

i just wouldn't use a 1911 for personal defense, glock or wheel gun is what i have for the bad guys. now if if all i had was my colt delta or a 1911 of course i would use it, it's just not my first choice
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lol! i got a colt delta elite that is worth at least the same as most kimbers, so there goes that statement...

i just wouldn't use a 1911 for personal defense, glock or wheel gun is what i have for the bad guys. now if if all i had was my colt delta or a 1911 of course i would use it, it's just not my first choice
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No, they are good combat guns because of the loose tolerances. They are therefore not as accurate, but I equate them to the AK47 of handguns.

A real Colt from years ago was very loose. You could shake the gun and it would rattle like a can.
Loose tolerances? You're kidding right? My new colt government 80 series is one of the tightest handguns I have ever handled...
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No, they are good combat guns because of the loose tolerances. They are therefore not as accurate, but I equate them to the AK47 of handguns.

A real Colt from years ago was very loose. You could shake the gun and it would rattle like a can.
Would you rather your gun be stiff and not able operate properly? Its a mechanical device, not an air tight chamber.

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Loose tolerances? You're kidding right? My new colt government 80 series is one of the tightest handguns I have ever handled...
OK, lets step back in time, before you were born. Have you ever handled an old military 1911?

Ok, I'm talking about the base gun before people started custom bulding 1911s. Before Dan Wesson, Kimber, S&W, Les Baer, Wilson Combat, etc....
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Would you rather your gun be stiff and not able operate properly? Its a mechanical device, not an air tight chamber.
Seriously?

That's now what I'm trying to say. There is a difference between a high-tolerance fine machine, and a loose tolerance grease gun. Both will lob rounds down range, but the high tolerance gun will be more accurate, and in turn more succeptable to dirt/grime/fouling.

That's why you don't see competitive shooters with loose guns. They can clean them between stages, but in combat you don't want to have to break down your sidearm every 50 rounds to clean it.
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Originally Posted by 01YZ2NV View Post
Although I dont disagree RIA a good gun, it is and I love mine, but there is definatly a major difference in craftsmanship when you pick up something like a nice springer or custom shop 1911. It dont matter how many bells and whistles I put on my rock, it will never have the fit and finish as a quality 1911.
If you are buying pistols for fit and finish, you may as well be putting flashlights on all your weapons too.

I want my pistol to FUNCTION. And as far as FUNCTION is concerned, I will gladly put my el cheapo up against anything in anyone's inventory. Pretty is for women, not weapons.
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