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Do like - Rossi Ranch Hand

I'd like one of these in .44 Magnum:

http://www.hinterlandoutfitters.com/...-pi-27934.html

The Model 92 Ranch Hand pistol has a lever action with large loop. 12" Barrel length and a overall length of 24". Buckhorn sights. Blue finish. Hardwood stock.

Pistol cartridge lever-actions have had attention of the American public since the days of the Old West when having a rifle and pistol that shoot the same caliber just made sense.

There are numerous variations - rifles, carbines, standard loop, oversize loop - including Rossi's 92 Hybrid - The Rossi Ranch Hand. This Mare's Leg version (think Steve McQueen in Wanted: Dead or Alive) is a short, 24 inch carbine, available in three popular pistol rounds - .38 Spl, .357 Mag, .44 Mag, and .45 Colt.

The Ranch Hand's 12 inch barrel complies with federal regulations, and features a gold-bead front sight with an adjustable buckhorn rear sight and an oversized loop lever.
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I saw that in the new American Rifleman. I do believe I want one. .45LC for me.
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I've got several .357 Magnum pistols and one .44 Magnum pistol. The .357/.44 mag is the obvious choice for me, but I'm leaning towards the .44 mag.
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How much, (if any) additional range would you get out of a .45 version, as compared to a 1911?


And thank you for the c/P Matt!
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Yeah, if recoil isn't too bad, the .44 mag would be just fine with me.
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Here's a pic.




You will get a little more velocity out of the longer barrel, here's a lengthy explanation:


http://www.loadammo.com/Topics/October05.htm
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I just want an 1894 FG which Marlin stop making, it was the 41 mag version.

DC Customs in Alvarado have been promoted in several magazines.
Wild West Guns in Anchorage, AK too.

I like the bush pilot models.

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That's pretty neat! would be a good "coach" gun.
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I'm going to buy one and bring it to work.

I'd bet that 90% of the officers I asked will say it's a short barreled rifle and therefore illegal.

Education is the key.

If anyone buys one, I would HIGHLY suggest that you bring some sort of owner's manual or advertisement with you showing that it is classed federally as a pistol, and NOT a rifle.
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I'm going to buy one and bring it to work.

I'd bet that 90% of the officers I asked will say it's a short barreled rifle and therefore illegal.

Education is the key.

If anyone buys one, I would HIGHLY suggest that you bring some sort of owner's manual or advertisement with you showing that it is classed federally as a pistol, and NOT a rifle.
I love how ridiculous the legislation is. It's all a numbers game when they build these guns. Call it one thing and the ATF could string you up, call it something else and it's A-OK.

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I love how ridiculous the legislation is. It's all a numbers game when they build these guns. Call it one thing and the ATF could string you up, call it something else and it's A-OK.
Semantics.
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Semantics.
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I just want an 1894 FG which Marlin stop making, it was the 41 mag version.

DC Customs in Alvarado have been promoted in several magazines.
Wild West Guns in Anchorage, AK too.

I like the bush pilot models.
Looks like they started making it again:
http://www.impactguns.com/store/1894FG.html

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I'd like one of these in .44 Magnum:

http://www.hinterlandoutfitters.com/...-pi-27934.html

The Model 92 Ranch Hand pistol has a lever action with large loop. 12" Barrel length and a overall length of 24". Buckhorn sights. Blue finish. Hardwood stock.

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The Ranch Hand's 12 inch barrel complies with federal regulations, and features a gold-bead front sight with an adjustable buckhorn rear sight and an oversized loop lever.
Whats the price points on these I'd like to have one as well?
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I'd bet that 90% of the officers I asked will say it's a short barreled rifle and therefore illegal.
Are most officers you know pretty well aware of NFA laws? Like, do most know that it is legal to own a machine gun/silencer/etc with the proper paper work? I have always been scared about shooting my MG on my friends land out in the boones. I dont want sheriff hardass rolling up and putting me in the cruiser for having an "illegal" weapon (I do always have my paperwork, but I know that the NFA is a somewhat obscure law).


Although, one time I was shooting at the Dallas gun range on Mockingbird, and a policeman walked in to buy a holster or something. He and the clerk were talking, and I dumped about 20 rounds on rock and roll downrange and turned to the glass to reload my magazine. The clerk mumbled something to the officer (probably regarding the form 4 I showed to him when I came in), and the guy in uniform gave me a thumbs up and a big grin. I laughed and waved.
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Whats the price points on these I'd like to have one as well?
From Hinterland it shows to be about $399.95
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Are most officers you know pretty well aware of NFA laws? Like, do most know that it is legal to own a machine gun/silencer/etc with the proper paper work? I have always been scared about shooting my MG on my friends land out in the boones. I dont want sheriff hardass rolling up and putting me in the cruiser for having an "illegal" weapon (I do always have my paperwork, but I know that the NFA is a somewhat obscure law).


Although, one time I was shooting at the Dallas gun range on Mockingbird, and a policeman walked in to buy a holster or something. He and the clerk were talking, and I dumped about 20 rounds on rock and roll downrange and turned to the glass to reload my magazine. The clerk mumbled something to the officer (probably regarding the form 4 I showed to him when I came in), and the guy in uniform gave me a thumbs up and a big grin. I laughed and waved.
I would say that most are NOT aware of NFA laws. What I know about NFA I learned on my own from my buddies that have Class 3 weapons. The FWPD academy only teaches Texas State Law, and Texas Penal Code 46.01 defines a short barreled firearm as:

(10)A"Short-barrel firearm" means a rifle with a
barrel length of less than 16 inches or a shotgun with a barrel
length of less than 18 inches, or any weapon made from a shotgun or
rifle if, as altered, it has an overall length of less than 26
inches.


There only mention of NFA laws in Chapter 46 is buried in the text as this:

Sec. 46.05.AAPROHIBITED WEAPONS.A (a)A person commits an
offense if he intentionally or knowingly possesses, manufactures,
transports, repairs, or sells:
(1)an explosive weapon;
(2)a machine gun;
(3)a short-barrel firearm;
(4)a firearm silencer;
(5)a switchblade knife;
(6)knuckles;
(7)armor-piercing ammunition;
(8)a chemical dispensing device; or
(9)a zip gun.
(b)It is a defense to prosecution under this section that
the actor ’s conduct was incidental to the performance of official
duty by the armed forces or national guard, a governmental law
enforcement agency, or a correctional facility.
(c)It is a defense to prosecution under this section that
the actor ’s possession was pursuant to registration pursuant to the
National Firearms Act, as amended.


Now you're asking yourself "what is a defense to prosecution?"

Sec. A2.03. DEFENSE.
(a)A defense to prosecution for an offense in this code is so labeled by the phrase: "It is a defenseto prosecution . . . ."
(b)The prosecuting attorney is not required to negate the
existence of a defense in the accusation charging commission of the
offense.
(c)The issue of the existence of a defense is not submitted
to the jury unless evidence is admitted supporting the defense.
(d)If the issue of the existence of a defense is submitted
to the jury, the court shall charge that a reasonable doubt on the
issue requires that the defendant be acquitted.
(e)Aground of defense in a penal law that is not plainly
labeled in accordance with this chapter has the procedural and
evidentiary consequences of a defense.
Acts 1973, 63rd Leg., p. 883, ch. 399, Sec. 1, eff. Jan. 1, 1974.
Amended by Acts 1993, 73rd Leg., ch. 900, Sec. 1.01, eff. Sept. 1,
1994.


So basically it means you can be arrested for it, but there is a defense that can be brought up at your trial.
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