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Well writen defense of our 2nd Amendment rights

I searched to see if I thought this was a repost.

This was sent to me by a buddy. We all must exhibit we can responsibly practice our 2nd amendment rights.


The Gun is Civilization
>> by Maj. L. Caudill USMC (Ret)
>>
>>
>> Human beings only have two ways to deal with one another: reason and
>> force.
>> If you want me to do something for you, you have a choice of either
>> convincing me via argument, or force me to do your bidding under threat
>> of
>> force. Every human interaction falls into one of those two categories,
>> without exception. Reason or force, that's it.
>>
>> In a truly moral and civilized society, people exclusively interact
>> through
>> persuasion. Force has no place as a valid method of social interaction,
>> and
>> the only thing that removes force from the menu is the personal firearm,
>> as
>> paradoxical as it may sound to some.
>>
>> When I carry a gun, you cannot deal with me by force. You have to use
>> reason and try to persuade me, because I have a way to negate your threat
>> or
>> employment of force.
>>
>> The gun is the only personal weapon that puts a 100-pound woman on equal
>> footing with a 220-pound mugger, a 75-year old retiree on equal footing
>> with
>> a 19-year old gang banger, and a single guy on equal footing with a
>> carload
>> of drunk guys with baseball bats. The gun removes the disparity in
>> physical
>> strength, size, or numbers between a potential attacker and a defender.
>>
>> There are plenty of people who consider the gun as the source of bad
>> force
>> equations. These are the people who think that we'd be more civilized if
>> all
>> guns were removed from society, because a firearm makes it easier for a
>> [armed] mugger to do his job. That, of course, is only true if the
>> mugger's
>> potential victims are mostly disarmed either by choice or by legislative
>> fiat--it has no validity when most of a mugger's potential marks are
>> armed.
>>
>> People who argue for the banning of arms ask for automatic rule by the
>> young, the strong, and the many, and that's the exact opposite of a
>> civilized society. A mugger, even an armed one, can only make a
>> successful
>> living in a society where the state has granted him a force monopoly.
>>
>> Then there's the argument that the gun makes confrontations lethal that
>> otherwise would only result in injury. This argument is fallacious in
>> several ways. Without guns involved, confrontations are won by the
>> physically superior party inflicting overwhelming injury on the loser.
>>
>> People who think that fists, bats, sticks, or stones don't constitute
>> lethal
>> force watch too much TV, where people take beatings and come out of it
>> with
>> a bloody lip at worst. The fact that the gun makes lethal force easier
>> works
>> solely in favor of the weaker defender, not the stronger attacker. If
>> both
>> are armed, the field is level.
>>
>> The gun is the only weapon that's as lethal in the hands of an
>> octogenarian
>> as it is in the hands of a weight lifter. It simply wouldn't work as well
>> as
>> a force equalizer if it wasn't both lethal and easily employable.
>>
>> * **When I carry a gun, I don't do so because I am looking for a fight,
>> but
>> because I'm looking to be left alone. The gun at my side means that I
>> cannot
>> be forced, only persuaded. I don't carry it because I'm afraid, but
>> because
>> it enables me to be unafraid. It doesn't limit the actions of those who
>> would interact with me through reason, only the actions of those who
>> would
>> do so by force. It removes force from the equation... and that's why
>> carrying a gun is a civilized act. *
>>
>> By Maj. L. Caudill USMC (Ret)
>>
>> So the greatest civilization is one where all citizens are equally armed
>> and can only be persuaded, never forced.
>

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post #2 of 6 (permalink) Old 05-18-2010, 02:33 PM
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Good read.
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Now start sharing that website you got this from and let me pass it around like hot bread. (Please ) <----- Persuasion!


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Now start sharing that website you got this from and let me pass it around like hot bread. (Please ) <----- Persuasion!
I am going to go out on a limb and say it's from ARS Tecnica's forum in the "SoapBox Forum." http://arstechnica.com/civis/

My friend is a regular poster over there. It is a pretty neat site and I can fall into there for hours and not get out. Great tech info. I should get a user name but after the "noob experience" over here at DFWS I haven't been anxious to sign up for it at ARS. They can be pretty rough on the noobs LOL.

Edit: now that I look I don't see it, I'll find out


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I performed the google search on the Marine's name and supposedly there is much debate over who wrote this.

So who knows who wrote it but it also appears in Ted Nuggent's new book.
Huh?

Interesting essay regardless.

I think it's from here:http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1850156/posts

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"When I carry a gun, I don't do so because I am looking for a fight, but because I'm looking to be left alone. The gun at my side means that I cannot be forced, only persuaded. I don't carry it because I'm afraid, but because it enables me to be unafraid. It doesn't limit the actions of those who would interact with me through reason, only the actions of those who would do so by force. It removes force from the equation... and that's why carrying a gun is a civilized act."



That's the part that speaks to me the most, though the whole thing is spot on...
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