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I bought a new Remington 700 ADL .308 from Academy. I had originally went there to look at the Mossberg ATR 100, but they didn't have the .308 in stock.

I bought a box of Winchester.308 WIN Super X. That ammo cost around twenty dollars for twenty cartridges.

1) What calibers am I able to shoot with my gun?

2) Is a .308 the same as 7.62?

3) If the answer to 2 is yes, can I shoot these calibers? (7.62x39, 7.62x51, 7.62x25, 7.62x54R, 300 Winchester Mag) Please list others that I'm missing.

4) Does the higher number of grain mean the bullet travels farther?

5) On the web, who has the best price on bulk ammo?

Someone I know is selling a Leupold VX 2 with rings and base for $200.00.
Is this a good scope?

It is a 3x9x40, how much distance can you see with this scope?

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I'll answer the one I know first.

4) No, the higher the grain number, the heavier the projectile.

I'm not familiar enough with .308 Win to know if you can fire 7.62x51 through it. I know none of the others you have listed will work, so don't even try it.

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I bought a new Remington 700 ADL .308 from Academy. I had originally went there to look at the Mossberg ATR 100, but they didn't have the .308 in stock.

I bought a box of Winchester.308 WIN Super X. That ammo cost around twenty dollars for twenty cartridges.

1) What calibers am I able to shoot with my gun?

2) Is a .308 the same as 7.62?

3) If the answer to 2 is yes, can I shoot these calibers? (7.62x39, 7.62x51, 7.62x25, 7.62x54R, 300 Winchester Mag) Please list others that I'm missing.

4) Does the higher number of grain mean the bullet travels farther?

5) On the web, who has the best price on bulk ammo?

Someone I know is selling a Leupold VX 2 with rings and base for $200.00.
Is this a good scope?

It is a 3x9x40, how much distance can you see with this scope?

Thanks for any and all your help.
1) You can shoot .308 winchester and that is all.... You might, and I mean might be able to shoot 7.62X51, but you better contact Remington and see.

2) No check out wiki 308 winchester to 7.62X51, they are super close but not the same.

3) A definite NO to all of these.

4) Grains is a unit of bullet weight.

5) No one really. For 0.308 winchester expect to pay $1 a round typically. Cheaper than dirt or military gun supply may have some for less locally, and maybe Wal Mart. Ammo prices are typically standard across the board for any particular caliber.
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1) You can shoot .308 winchester and that is all.... You might, and I mean might be able to shoot 7.62X51, but you better contact Remington and see.

2) No check out wiki 308 winchester to 7.62X51, they are super close but not the same.

3) A definite NO to all of these.

4) Grains is a unit of bullet weight.

5) No one really. For 0.308 winchester expect to pay $1 a round typically. Cheaper than dirt or military gun supply may have some for less locally, and maybe Wal Mart. Ammo prices are typically standard across the board for any particular caliber.
What he said but your owners manual might say if you can shoot the 7.62x51 but I bet the chamber is for .308 Win only.
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What he said but your owners manual might say if you can shoot the 7.62x51 but I bet the chamber is for .308 Win only.
After a hell of alot of reading and 6 pages later I found this. Good read and informative.

http://www.6mmbr.com/308Win.html

This is a copy/paste explaining the differences between .308 and 7.62x51

.308 Win vs. 7.62x51--The Straight Scoop
Before we go much further, we want to address the oft-posed question "Are the .308 Winchester and 7.62x51 NATO one and the same?" The simple answer is no. There are differences in chamber specs and maximum pressures. The SAMMI/CIP maximum pressure for the .308 Win cartridge is 62,000 psi, while the 7.62x51 max is 50,000 psi. Also, the headspace is slightly different. The .308 Win "Go Gauge" is 1.630" vs. 1.635" for the 7.62x51. The .308's "No-Go" dimension is 1.634" vs. 1.6405" for a 7.62x51 "No Go" gauge. That said, it is normally fine to shoot quality 7.62x51 NATO ammo in a gun chambered for the .308 Winchester (though not all NATO ammo is identical). Clint McKee of Fulton Armory notes: "[N]obody makes 7.62mm (NATO) ammo that isn't to the .308 'headspace' dimension spec. So 7.62mm ammo fits nicely into .308 chambers, as a rule." You CAN encounter problems going the other way, however. A commercial .308 Win round can exceed the max rated pressure for the 7.62x51. So, you should avoid putting full-power .308 Win rounds into military surplus rifles that have been designed for 50,000 psi max. For more information on this interesting topic, read the following articles: Gun Zone's 30 Caliber FAQ; Cruffler.com Technical Trivia, June 2001; and last, but not least, Steve Redgwell's .308 vs 7.62x51 Analysis, which really provides a definitive explanation. Reloaders should also note that military ammo often is made with a thicker web. Consequently the case capacity of 7.62x51 brass is usually less than that of commercial .308 brass. You may need to reduce recommended .308 Winchester loads by as much as 2 full grains, if you reload with military 7.62x51 brass, such as Lake City or IMI.
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Has anybody tried M118LR ammo?

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M118 LR and the MilSurp Ammo Option
One reason the .308 Win is so popular is the availability of very inexpensive 7.62x51 military surplus ammo. As explained in more detail above, a 7.62x51 chamber is NOT the same as a SAMMI-spec .308 Win chamber. Nonetheless it is normally safe to shoot 7.62x51 NATO-class ammo in your .308 Win because current .308 Winchester rifles are designed for higher maximum pressures.

Among the many types of military ammo sold to consumers, there is the "Good Stuff", namely Lake City M118 LR ("Long Range"), and everything else. The M118 LR is the true milspec ammo issued to U.S. military snipers. Boxer-primed and loaded with Sierra 175gr MK projectiles, M118 LR rivals some commercial match ammo for accuracy. Tests by SniperCentral.com reported the M118 LR produced .5 MOA to .7 MOA groups in some rifles. Note: M118 LR has a thick sealant right at the case mouth. Shooters report that if you re-seat the bullets just about .020" deeper this can break the sealant and potentially improve accuracy. Normally, your best source for M118 LR is the Civilian Marksmanship Program (CMP), which recently sold it by the case at $399.00 for 920 rounds. The CMP is currently out of stock, but it is available online from Ammoman.com, and Impact Guns. Expect to pay a lot more, however. Ammoman sells M118 LR for $350.00 per 500, and Impact Guns charges $24.99 per 20-round box--way too much!
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I used to shoot surplus 7.62x51 through my Rem 700 all the time, I do not think you will have an issue.
That said you will also not have the same accuracy from the 7.62x51 as factory loaded .308 either.

The VX-II for $200 is not a bad deal depending on condition. 3x9 should give you enough magnification to hunt pretty much anywhere. Most snipers and a lot of 1000 yard plus guys shoot fixed power scopes. It is really the FOV you are looking for, not distance. On the VX-II it is probably around 14' at 100 yards which again is more then fine.
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1) What calibers am I able to shoot with my gun?

2) Is a .308 the same as 7.62?

3) If the answer to 2 is yes, can I shoot these calibers? (7.62x39, 7.62x51, 7.62x25, 7.62x54R, 300 Winchester Mag) Please list others that I'm missing.

4) Does the higher number of grain mean the bullet travels farther?

5) On the web, who has the best price on bulk ammo?

Someone I know is selling a Leupold VX 2 with rings and base for $200.00.
Is this a good scope?

It is a 3x9x40, how much distance can you see with this scope?

Thanks for any and all your help.
1) .308 Win is the Commercial Version of the Military 7.62x51 ammo. For all practical purposes its the same. MANY reloaders will reload the 7.62x51 military brass to 308 specs with the exception of the powder charge, they'll reduce it by 1-2 grains. Hell all of them use .308 win dies.
2) 7.62mm = .30 cal (.308win, 30-06, 300 win mag, 7.62x39, etc... are all 30 cal)
3) NO you can only shoot 7.62x51 or 308 win out of your gun.
4) Number of grains is only the weight of the bullet. Lighter bullets fly faster, heavier bullets buck the wind better.
5) You bought a bolt action rifle, you really won't go through that much ammo, if you plan to hunt and do some paper punching.

A 3x-9 40mm scope is a decent scope and you'll be able to shoot good distances with it.

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Has anybody tried M118LR ammo?

Again, copy/paste from the link in my previous post.

M118 LR and the MilSurp Ammo Option
One reason the .308 Win is so popular is the availability of very inexpensive 7.62x51 military surplus ammo. As explained in more detail above, a 7.62x51 chamber is NOT the same as a SAMMI-spec .308 Win chamber. Nonetheless it is normally safe to shoot 7.62x51 NATO-class ammo in your .308 Win because current .308 Winchester rifles are designed for higher maximum pressures.

Among the many types of military ammo sold to consumers, there is the "Good Stuff", namely Lake City M118 LR ("Long Range"), and everything else. The M118 LR is the true milspec ammo issued to U.S. military snipers. Boxer-primed and loaded with Sierra 175gr MK projectiles, M118 LR rivals some commercial match ammo for accuracy. Tests by SniperCentral.com reported the M118 LR produced .5 MOA to .7 MOA groups in some rifles. Note: M118 LR has a thick sealant right at the case mouth. Shooters report that if you re-seat the bullets just about .020" deeper this can break the sealant and potentially improve accuracy. Normally, your best source for M118 LR is the Civilian Marksmanship Program (CMP), which recently sold it by the case at $399.00 for 920 rounds. The CMP is currently out of stock, but it is available online from Ammoman.com, and Impact Guns. Expect to pay a lot more, however. Ammoman sells M118 LR for $350.00 per 500, and Impact Guns charges $24.99 per 20-round box--way too much!
I have fired a lot of M118LR because that is what the Army is given to shoot in their M24 and M14 EBR. Good ammo!

My Remmy 700 only sees Federal Gold Match and that is only until I get my own loads worked up.

The ammo you feed it is all relevent to what you plan on using the rifle for; hunting, 100yrd bench rest, long range precission or just bustin jugs at the farm.

If you are just bustin jugs leave the FGM alone and get some surplus south african stuff. If you are hunting get what you think will bring down your prey. If you are sitting on a bench at the 100yd any "Match" grade ammo will suit you fine. If you are trying to keep a group out to 750+ you are going to need to work your own loads for maximum accuracy. With the ADL you just got I am figuring you are in the hunting catagory.
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I have fired a lot of M118LR because that is what the Army is given to shoot in their M24 and M14 EBR. Good ammo!
A civi, such as myself, can purchase this ammo? The websites I see it for sale on are military/law enforcement.

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If you are just bustin jugs leave the FGM alone and get some surplus south african stuff. If you are sitting on a bench at the 100yd any "Match" grade ammo will suit you fine.
A friend of mine gave me an open invite to shoot on his property. We plan to shoot skeet/clay targets and rifle. I want to shoot at 12x12 steel targets at various distances (busting jugs)

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If you are hunting get what you think will bring down your prey. With the ADL you just got I am figuring you are in the hunting catagory.
I have an invite to shoot hogs, but that will be for a later date, till I feel I'm good enough bring one down.

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A civi, such as myself, can purchase this ammo? The websites I see it for sale on are military/law enforcement.


A friend of mine gave me an open invite to shoot on his property. We plan to shoot skeet/clay targets and rifle. I want to shoot at 12x12 steel targets at various distances (busting jugs)

I have an invite to shoot hogs, but that will be for a later date, till I feel I'm good enough bring one down.

Many thanks too all those who have replied.
You can buy 7.62x51 Nato ammo (Cheaper than Dirt and Academy Has it), however I'd recommend buying commercial ammo. Its generally more accurate than the surplus ammo.

You can buy the military Lake Cities ammo if you want, I generally stick to commercial ammo. In my Springfield M1A, I use .308 WIN, and have really good results with it (I reload, so I use Hornady Match 308 Brass, and Hornady A-Max Bullets). (Springfield cuts the M1A chamber for .308 SAAMI Specs so you can shoot either out of it.) Your bolt action is definately cut to a .308 chamber so your golden also. Generally the 7.62x51 rounds can generate up to 50,000 psi, while a .308 can generate up to 60,000 psi.

You can go to Academy and buy 7.62x51mm NATO ammo, its in a white box.

However since you bought a bolt action, I'd recommend you go out and buy Hornady .308 WIN in 168 Grain. The gun will like this ammunition, however the ammo is a bit expensive.

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You can buy 7.62x51 Nato ammo (Cheaper than Dirt and Academy Has it), however I'd recommend buying commercial ammo. Its generally more accurate than the surplus ammo.

You can buy the military Lake Cities ammo if you want, I generally stick to commercial ammo. In my Springfield M1A, I use .308 WIN, and have really good results with it (I reload, so I use Hornady Match 308 Brass, and Hornady A-Max Bullets). (Springfield cuts the M1A chamber for .308 SAAMI Specs so you can shoot either out of it.) Your bolt action is definately cut to a .308 chamber so your golden also. Generally the 7.62x51 rounds can generate up to 50,000 psi, while a .308 can generate up to 60,000 psi.

You can go to Academy and buy 7.62x51mm NATO ammo, its in a white box.

However since you bought a bolt action, I'd recommend you go out and buy Hornady .308 WIN in 168 Grain. The gun will like this ammunition, however the ammo is a bit expensive.
A many thanks Dacotua.

While I got your attention. Academy had mounted my scope and bore sight it for me. Being the newb I am, I thought that would be all that was needing done until he said I need to go to a range and adjust the scope for 100yds. Going to the range and shooting the gun for the first time is the fun part, adjusting the scope could be a disaster.

I don't know what is needed or how I should go about it. Alpine is the nearest range to me, do they offer services such as sighting in customers scopes to 100 yds.

Also, should I sight the scope using high dollar ammo such as Hornady .308 WIN in 168 Grain, or surplus ammo?

I promise last question (I think) My scope is mounted about half an inch too far back. Can I loosen the screws and slide the scope forward or will that throw the bore sight off?
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A many thanks Dacotua.

While I got your attention. Academy had mounted my scope and bore sight it for me. Being the newb I am, I thought that would be all that was needing done until he said I need to go to a range and adjust the scope for 100yds. Going to the range and shooting the gun for the first time is the fun part, adjusting the scope could be a disaster.

I don't know what is needed or how I should go about it. Alpine is the nearest range to me, do they offer services such as sighting in customers scopes to 100 yds.

Also, should I sight the scope using high dollar ammo such as Hornady .308 WIN in 168 Grain, or surplus ammo?

I promise last question (I think) My scope is mounted about half an inch too far back. Can I loosen the screws and slide the scope forward or will that throw the bore sight off?
Yes you can adjust the scope.

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I don't care who bore sights the rifle, DO NOT GO TO A 100yard range and shoot it. Go to the 25 yard range FIRST. Sight it in at 25 yards. (make sure its 1" low at 25 yards). The point is, if your dead on left/right and 1" low at 25 yards, you'll hit paper at 100 yards.

MOST ranges WILL NOT let you use FMJ Surplus ammo to sight it in. And I hate to tell you, if you sight it in with cheap shit, and then use quality ammo, it will be off.

Honestly if you sight it in at 25 yards, and then adjust it at 100 yards, you should be able to have it dead on within 10 shots.

However, if you must use cheap ammo, go out to Bass Pro/Cabelas/or any sporting good store and buy the Federal Corelok ammo. It will be around 15-20 dollars a box. Or Winchester Super-X 308 in 168 grain.

If you sight it in with the cheaper stuff, buy more than one box. Try to get the same lot number. That way when you have it sighted in, it will shoot the same for all the boxes you just bought.

For hunting, if you can hit a paper plate at 100 yards, you can kill any game animal.

ALSO : DO NOT BUY Steel case ammo for your gun. That includes Wolf, Monarch Steel, Any thing Bear.... If the ammo is named after a animal, avoid it.

I've seen steel case's get STUCK hard in a bolt action and some semis... not fun to get it out.

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ALSO : DO NOT BUY Steel case ammo for your gun. That includes Wolf, Monarch Steel, Any thing Bear.... If the ammo is named after a animal, avoid it.

I've seen steel case's get STUCK hard in a bolt action and some semis... not fun to get it out.
Very true, on the steel ammo.

Not so true on the Wolf.

Wolf "Gold" is made at the Prvi Partizan factory in Serbia and is brass case. It's clean ammo and is actually pretty good/accurate ammo - but, it must be "GOLD"!


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While I got your attention. Academy had mounted my scope and bore sight it for me. Being the newb I am, I thought that would be all that was needing done until he said I need to go to a range and adjust the scope for 100yds. Going to the range and shooting the gun for the first time is the fun part, adjusting the scope could be a disaster.
Bore sight is just to get you on paper. You should be able to start at 50 and get it true zero at 50 and then move to 100 and re-zero.

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I don't know what is needed or how I should go about it. Alpine is the nearest range to me, do they offer services such as sighting in customers scopes to 100 yds.
Most ranges will only bore sight, not actually shoot it in. That said you should shoot it in yourself. It will get you familiar with the weapon, and it is part of the fun.

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ALWAYS shoot your rifle in with the exact ammo you are going to shoot regularly.

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I promise last question (I think) My scope is mounted about half an inch too far back. Can I loosen the screws and slide the scope forward or will that throw the bore sight off?
You can move your scope, and if it is too far back I would move it for sure to help prevent the scope kissing your eye. The turrets should be centered between the rings.
It will effect the zero, but not much.

You can also bore sight your rifle at home enough to get you on paper.
Find you a good place about 25-30 yards with a wall. Put a dot on the wall and find a table or something to sturdy your rifle on. Remove the bolt and look down the barrel and line the dot on the wall in the center of the barrel as best you can. Then adjust the reticle to zero on the same dot. This will not zero your rifle but will get you on paper enough that you can zero it at the range.
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ALWAYS shoot your rifle in with the exact ammo you are going to shoot regularly.
That changes alot of what I was thinking. My plan was to sight the scope in with good ammo, but kill jugs with surplus ammo. Seems now my best bet is to use a lower priced commercial ammo and stick with that. I'm sure in the end, I'll be happier that I did.

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You can move your scope, and if it is too far back I would move it for sure to help prevent the scope kissing your eye. The turrets should be centered between the rings.
It will effect the zero, but not much.
I never thought of the guns recoil. I can see it now trying to explain to people why I have a black ring around my eye.


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You can also bore sight your rifle at home enough to get you on paper.
Find you a good place about 25-30 yards with a wall. Put a dot on the wall and find a table or something to sturdy your rifle on. Remove the bolt and look down the barrel and line the dot on the wall in the center of the barrel as best you can. Then adjust the reticle to zero on the same dot. This will not zero your rifle but will get you on paper enough that you can zero it at the range.
Good deal Chopped. I'll try that method when I slide the scope forward. When me and a friend went to Academy to have the scope mounted and bore sighted, I told my friend they use some type of laser in the end of the barrel. Needless to say, I was wrong when the employee used some type of scope in the barrel. He and I both learned something that day.


So now it's time to take what I have learned from you gentlemen and put it to use.
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Good choice. Nice thing about ADL is it is a 700 action. You can upgrade the stock and the bottomless magazine to a magazine/stock with a bottom pretty easily.

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In my youth days, the only gun I owned was a BB gun. Up until five days ago, I became an owner of a high caliber rifle. I've hunted quail and dove with my grandfather in my teens. When he passed away in 01, I inherited two of his shotguns and have been shooting them (for the first time) within the past three or four months.

Not wanting to just own shotguns, I wanted a rifle. Since I don't have a friend or relative to ask questions, I knew my best solution was to ask in The Armory section. There are many DFWS members who are knowledgeable and could help put me in the right direction. It almost seems like I should be paying for this kind of service. Who knows, maybe I'll run across one of ya'll and buy you a beer (or more)

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There is are several diff. ways to bore sight a rifle, you are kinda right thinking a laser there are two methods that use a laser and the other common way is what you saw.
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Good choice. Nice thing about ADL is it is a 700 action. You can upgrade the stock and the bottomless magazine to a magazine/stock with a bottom pretty easily.
I seen that, pretty cool if you ask me. Once I get things squared away with the gun, I'll do some upgrading in the future.

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That changes alot of what I was thinking. My plan was to sight the scope in with good ammo, but kill jugs with surplus ammo. Seems now my best bet is to use a lower priced commercial ammo and stick with that. I'm sure in the end, I'll be happier that I did.
I would sight the gun in with good ammo then put the rest of that ammo aside and plink with the cheap. The difference in your accuracy will not be that much, but if you go and do some target or hunting then you know you can use the good ammo and be spot on.

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I never thought of the guns recoil. I can see it now trying to explain to people why I have a black ring around my eye.
Yeah scope eye scars are not cool and once it kisses you as you are getting comfortable with shooting a decent recoiling rifle it puts a flinch in you that is harder to get rid of then to gain.

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Good deal Chopped. I'll try that method when I slide the scope forward. When me and a friend went to Academy to have the scope mounted and bore sighted, I told my friend they use some type of laser in the end of the barrel. Needless to say, I was wrong when the employee used some type of scope in the barrel. He and I both learned something that day.
This is what most places use to bore sight and again is useless past getting you on paper.

If you just slide the scope forward before zeroing in you should be fine, but only takes a couple of mins to double check with the removing the bolt method so wont hurt.
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