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Shooting the S&W 500

A friend loaned his S&W 500 to my brother & I to shoot this weekend. I've been dieing to shoot this gun for a while. This thing is a beast for sure. Fantastic gun and I would LOVE to own (sans the scope of course). Very nice custom gun.

I asked Sean to come shoot it too but he said he had class all day (I think he was skeered).

When I shot the first round, some `ol coot next to me (that was sitting in a chair) shooting a nice Sig .45 damned near fell out of his chair. He just looked up at me with a look of confusion on his face. His buddy, next to him (about 70 years old) stopped and looked at me and said "WHAT THE FUCK WAS THAT???". He was grinning but you just didn't expect that out of someone that looked like him. I said "a howitzer". He laughed and said "yeah, I'm familiar with those but only in the war"

We were shooting the 385grn rounds, but you can see the curtain moving from the percussion.

Anyway, here's a cell phone pic.


And iPhone vid (forgive the quality)...



Edit: not sure why the embed isn't working but here's a link http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zjHfZ8cbSYI

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Very nice.

So how was the recoil?

The real question should be. How many rounds did you fire?
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Very nice.

So how was the recoil?

The real question should be. How many rounds did you fire?
Recoil was not as bad as I expected. Not bad at all. The vid you see was the second round of firing for me though.

We shot 20 rounds (@ $3.00 a round)
Well worth it though. I also let the RO keep the brass (thought he was going to offer a hand job for it, lol) since I'll probably never have a need to reload it, and the gun owner doesn't reload.


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Recoil was not as bad as I expected. Not bad at all. The vid you see was the second round of firing for me though.

We shot 20 rounds (@ $3.00 a round)
Well worth it though. I also let the RO keep the brass (thought he was going to offer a hand job for it, lol) since I'll probably never have a need to reload it, and the gun owner doesn't reload.


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I'll take the brass. I have a friend that reloads .500 S&W.

I shot his .500 S&W and he neglected to tell me he loaded it with hot homemade loads. I weigh 220 and it kicked me like a mule. I shot all 5 rounds and politely handed it back to him (he was laughing) and told him I never want to shoot that MF'er again.
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I'll take the brass. I have a friend that reloads .500 S&W.

I shot his .500 S&W and he neglected to tell me he loaded it with hot homemade loads. I weigh 220 and it kicked me like a mule. I shot all 5 rounds and politely handed it back to him (he was laughing) and told him I never want to shoot that MF'er again.
Next time we shoot it, I'll let you know and you can have them.


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That thing looks wicked. I would love to take a black bear with one. That would be the crowning achievement of my hunting endeavors.
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Very nice.

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1)That thing looks wicked. 2)I would love to take a black bear with one. 3)That would be the crowning achievement of my hunting endeavors.
I might have to agree with that statement (all three actually).

Here's a vid of my brother shooting it. Show's the recoil a little better.

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I might have to agree with that statement (all three actually).

Here's a vid of my brother shooting it. Show's the recoil a little better.

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Goodness gracious. How much more than a .44 mag does it kick?
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Goodness gracious. How much more than a .44 mag does it kick?
Quite a bit, but the heavy (specialty) barrel of this particular gun adds to the shoot-ability of it.

Next time we are going to compare the 275/400/500 grn rounds and see what differences there are. I'll also bring a .44 mag just to shoot.

We also had a .357 snub nose with some hot loads that had a nice little kick.


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Out of curiosity has anyone shot a .454 Casull? While reading through another forum I came across this post. http://www.africahunting.com/hunting...g-buffalo.html Not exactly something I would want to try, but I guess to each their own.

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Very cool story.
Thanks for posting the link.

I know there is [at least] one person on here who shoots the Casull.


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I have the 500 with 400 grain hollowpoints sitting on a 4" barrel in my gun room right now. The kick isn't that bad.
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Why not have the best of both worlds?

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I agree. I'd rather just fire a rifle than a Penis Deficiency Handgun.
For the record, we did fire a rifle, same day.
Now, do I get my inches back?

BTW - Penis envy > Penis Deficiency.
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I was at alpine a couple months back, and a guy a few lanes over was shooting S&W500. After his third shot he tried cocking the hammer at the top of the recoil and he managed to put a round nearly straight up through the "roof". Needless to say it looked like he shit himself, and I packed up and went home.

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Why not have the best of both worlds?
I bet that's real cheap since most nice doubles go for over $30,000 and theose aren't in any of the big big bores.
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I'll try to get the specs off the hand loads I was shooting.

Ask CJ how that SOB kicked. CJ weighs close to three bills and you could notice the recoil with him shooting it.
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I'll try to get the specs off the hand loads I was shooting.

Ask CJ how that SOB kicked. CJ weighs close to three bills and you could notice the recoil with him shooting it.
Where were you guys shooting it? I was curious to see what ranges would allow this size hand gun.


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Where were you guys shooting it? I was curious to see what ranges would allow this size hand gun.


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Wish I could have been there man. Pick a day that isn't a Saturday and I'll roll out.

We could replay the Crocodile Dundee scene of 'that's not a knife' while walking around some shitty area of a big city.

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Wish I could have been there man. Pick a day that isn't a Saturday and I'll roll out.

We could replay the Crocodile Dundee scene of 'that's not a knife' while walking around some shitty area of a big city.
Cool.
I'll just take a day off one day and we'll sling some lead and scare the "natives".



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LMAO

Just noticed in both vids you can see the empty .45 casings (the bench to the right) bouncing around from the percussion.




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....Ive got a box of 500s&w I need to get rid of, so my wrist stays intact LOL


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What grain and how much?
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Where were you guys shooting it? I was curious to see what ranges would allow this size hand gun.


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Private land. The same land he shoots his MaDuece on.
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Private land. The same land he shoots his MaDuece on.
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I'll try to get the specs off the hand loads I was shooting.

Ask CJ how that SOB kicked. CJ weighs close to three bills and you could notice the recoil with him shooting it.
That some bitch would have picked up and thrown me! I third Davids "No thanks"Ill stick to sensible calibers spanks.
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I got the info from the loads I was shooting:

500 grain Hornady bullet. 21.3 grains of Lil' Gun powder for a published
velocity of 1100 fps. Actually, that is about a mid-level load in the
Hornady manual. Max load for that particular powder is 28.7 grains at 1300
fps. for same bullet weight. I've found that 35 grains of H110 and a 350
grain bullet is a lot more comfortable and pleasant to shoot. Velocity is
higher with about half the recoil.
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I got the info from the loads I was shooting:

500 grain Hornady bullet. 21.3 grains of Lil' Gun powder for a published
velocity of 1100 fps. Actually, that is about a mid-level load in the
Hornady manual. Max load for that particular powder is 28.7 grains at 1300
fps. for same bullet weight. I've found that 35 grains of H110 and a 350
grain bullet is a lot more comfortable and pleasant to shoot. Velocity is
higher with about half the recoil.
We were shooting the COR BON 385 JHP rounds, much closer to the latter one in your list.


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We were shooting the COR BON 385 JHP rounds, much closer to the latter one in your list.


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That friggin 500gn bullet kicks!
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I'll try to get the specs off the hand loads I was shooting.

Ask CJ how that SOB kicked. CJ weighs close to three bills and you could notice the recoil with him shooting it.
It was very fun to shoot. I told everyone it felt like momentary time travel. You have to plant yourself and really grip it like your life depends on it. However, the recoil itself wasn't very bad, the grip is very good and absorbs a good amount of it. It's best compared to the push of a .44mag with the snap of a .357. It will make your palm numb after a cylinder, but it's manageable. I had the pleasure of shooting some hand loads that I believe were hot 500 grains. If it came in a small snub nose I'd conceal carry one - haha. But seriously, the large barrel is the only reason it's manageable - a snub nose would probably really, really hurt. Honestly if that thing was pointed at your face and it fired, I would have trouble imagining someone doing anything but running. Think of it like a .308 revolver.
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It was very fun to shoot. I told everyone it felt like momentary time travel. You have to plant yourself and really grip it like your life depends on it. However, the recoil itself wasn't very bad, the grip is very good and absorbs a good amount of it. It's best compared to the push of a .44mag with the snap of a .357. It will make your palm numb after a cylinder, but it's manageable. I had the pleasure of shooting some hand loads that I believe were hot 500 grains. If it came in a small snub nose I'd conceal carry one - haha. But seriously, the large barrel is the only reason it's manageable - a snub nose would probably really, really hurt. Honestly if that thing was pointed at your face and it fired, I would have trouble imagining someone doing anything but running. Think of it like a .308 revolver.





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hmm.... wonder how much that model is.
This particular gun came with the cheesy"Kit" from the first vid, so I'm sure you'll pay too much for it, but that damned thing's got to be a widow-maker on the wrist.


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This particular gun came with the cheesy"Kit" from the first vid, so I'm sure you'll pay too much for it, but that damned thing's got to be a widow-maker on the wrist.


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Quite a bit, but the heavy (specialty) barrel of this particular gun adds to the shoot-ability of it.

Next time we are going to compare the 275/400/500 grn rounds and see what differences there are. I'll also bring a .44 mag just to shoot.

We also had a .357 snub nose with some hot loads that had a nice little kick.




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I can bring a .44 Magnum as well, but I'd rather shoot yours so I don't have to clean mine!

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Out of curiosity has anyone shot a .454 Casull? While reading through another forum I came across this post. http://www.africahunting.com/hunting...g-buffalo.html Not exactly something I would want to try, but I guess to each their own.
I'd like to shoot a .454 Casull as well since I've already shot a hot ass .500 S&W.
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