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post #1 of 12 (permalink) Old 12-25-2009, 06:07 PM Thread Starter
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found a neat target rifle

Thought I would post this in case anyone is interested. Found a neat old target rifle for cheap at Gunmaster's Plano. Spec's are:

25-06 Ackley Improved
1 in 10 twist Douglas barrel - bore looks very good
Blueprinted FN action
Custom carved Walnut stock - High Comb
Custom trigger
Full action bedding
Asking price $395

Not my cup of tea, but nice tack driver if you want one cheap. I can't remember the gunsmith name. Beautiful old-world craftsmanship. The guy that built this one knew what he was doing.
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post #2 of 12 (permalink) Old 12-25-2009, 07:42 PM
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That is a great deal, wish it was .22-250.
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Yeah love the 22-250. I really fond of the 25-06 too. The new(ish) Reloader 17 powder makes this round come alive. With an 87gr BT I could get over 3600fps. It does a number on coyotes. This is a comparable load with the heavy end of the 22-250. My favorite hunting load is the 120 nosler or 117gr Siera running about 3100 fps. I've dropped several mule deer at 300+ yds and they were DRT.
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Is .25-06 a 6mm or a 6.5mm?

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Is .25-06 a 6mm or a 6.5mm?
6mm = .243
6.35 = .25
6.5 = .264

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Balistically the 25-06 is very close to the 6.5 x 55mm Swede. Slightly smaller bullet diameter .257 vs .264 so a similar 100gr .257 bullet is a couple of thousandths longer than its 6.5mm counterpart. On a reloading bench, you have to be extremely careful not to mix them up. Simiar loaded catridges: (bullet weight, type and powder charge) will nearly identical results.
For hunting the 25-06 has a better reputation as a long range shooter but I think the 6.5mm swede with its heavier bullets is a better elk and moose round.
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The only problem with that is the A.I. part that means forming brass. You could get it and do a barrel swap into whatever caliber you want.
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The only problem with that is the A.I. part that means forming brass. You could get it and do a barrel swap into whatever caliber you want.
An Ackley Improved will shoot standard factory loads. That's how you form the brass. To form the brass: I used to just lightly lube the case and shoot it. Then just resize the neck only, lube, and shoot again. That usually did the trick.

The reason I didn't buy this gun was it was a high combed right handed stock and I shoot lefty. The LOP was wrong for me as well. It is like find an old Shelbly in a barn. You hate to chop it up.
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Does no one sell brass for that?

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post #10 of 12 (permalink) Old 12-27-2009, 03:00 PM Thread Starter
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Don't need special brass. Just shoot normal brass. It will fireform to the new shoulder angle.
The only difference is that A.I. has a 40 degree shoulder angle instead of the 30ish ?? degree angle of the standard round. Nowdays the only adavtage A.I. has over a standard round is that case does not stretch as bad with hot loads so your cases last longer.
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In most case's you gain a few hundred feet per second over normal rounds compared to to the A.I.
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AI usually includes straight wall body, eliminating the taper for reliable feeding. The shoulder angle is changed.

yep, you fireform AI brass. Some like to do a full load, while others do pistol powder with dacron filler, cream of wheat and wax.

25-06 AI is not common for a target rifle. But a heck of a good varminter.

Douglas barrels are nice, but not on par with Lilja, Krieger, Hart etc.

My brother has a VZ24 with Douglas barrel in 308 Win and it is very accurate hunting rifle.

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