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Needing some help with safes

Long story short someone was casing our house yesterday and was met by me with a glock at our front window. Police say there has been a lot of break-ins around our neighborhood recently. I am wanting to get the man a gun safe, but don't have the $600 or so to spend on one. Does anyone know of a decent one for less?? I don't want someone breaking in and I don't want them stealing all his guns! TIA!!

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how many guns? rifles pistols or shotguns. i doubt they will be back if you shoved a gun in their face.

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how many guns? rifles pistols or shotguns. i doubt they will be back if you shoved a gun in their face.

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He has more than a few guns. Rifles, pistols and shotguns. I am thinking they won't be back since they were met with a gun toting redhead! Just trying to be cautious since they were morons looking in windows at 4 in the afternoon.

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i am not sure you can get one that will hold all of that for less than $600-800. if you can its prolly cheap enough that you could pick it up and carry it out of the house. go check basspro, they prolly have the best selection i have seen. i got mine from them.

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Sam's had a Winchester safe on sale last week for $550 +/-. It wasn't very large but it would hold 4 or 5 long guns and a few hand guns.


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Not the best safe, but will do the job on a budget.

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FEATURES:

Holds 10 rifles or shotguns.
3-number combination lock with a drill resistant, hardened steel plate behind the lock provides greater security.
3 live action locking bolts and 3 steel dead bolts provide 6 locking points.
Solid steel, pry resistant door with concealed hinges provides greater security.
Fully carpeted interior with Stack-On's patented barrel rests and standoffs for storing scoped rifles allow for better space utilization.
A 2-tray organizer is included for storing ammo, cleaning supplies and more. Sturdy hooks allow for hanging items like duck calls or hats. Slot behind the trays is perfect for storing maps, manuals, licenses or other documents.
A removable carpeted shelf is included for added storage. Shelf is positioned in the front of the unit so longer guns can be stored in the back.
Exterior has a hunter green epoxy paint finish with gold accents.
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i am not sure you can get one that will hold all of that for less than $600-800. if you can its prolly cheap enough that you could pick it up and carry it out of the house. go check basspro, they prolly have the best selection i have seen. i got mine from them.

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That's why you bolt it to the floor
haha, jose my 3 yr old could push one of those $200 safes over bolted 2 foot into the ground. they are only $200 because the metal is thin as hell. if you just wanna keep the bolts secure you would be good, but the guns and safe would be gone!

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haha, jose my 3 yr old could push one of those $200 safes over bolted 2 foot into the ground. they are only $200 because the metal is thin as hell. if you just wanna keep the bolts secure you would be good, but the guns and safe would be gone!

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LOL! I couldn't do it to my friends cheap gun locker (not even a safe) but I guess it wasn't cheap enough. Plus he had it in a corner so pushing wouldn't do much, maybe pulling but you better have a good pry bar.




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LOL! I couldn't do it to my friends cheap gun locker (not even a safe) but I guess it wasn't cheap enough. Plus he had it in a corner so pushing wouldn't do much, maybe pulling but you better have a good pry bar.
either way its 100% better than nothing!!!!

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either way its 100% better than nothing!!!!

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True that. I've got a gun locker myself that's well hidden in my house but I'm looking to replace it with something that's fireproof because I'm thinking about doing away with my safety deposit box and keeping my important documents at home.




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On the good Liberty or Cannon safes bolting to the floor is fine, on the cheaper ones like the one I posted bolt to stud and floor, and use fender washers when bolting down.
I looked at the one I posted for my father in law and it is actually very well built for the money. Decent gauge steel, and no seams like some of the other cheap safes. It would deter, or slow down a theif, but would not 100% stop them from taking it. On that note given the time, and determination, nothing is going to 100% stop someone from taking a safe.

Also never put it against an exterior wall. They will break through the brick on each side of the safe, wrap a chain around it and just pull it out with a truck.
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That's why you bolt it to the floor
AND bolt it to the studs through the back of the safe.

Me, I just bought a safe big enough that no MF'er I know can move it alone. Hell, it took 3 of us big bastards and a couple of furniture dollies to get it INTO the house.
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On the good Liberty or Cannon safes bolting to the floor is fine, on the cheaper ones like the one I posted bolt to stud and floor, and use fender washers when bolting down.
I looked at the one I posted for my father in law and it is actually very well built for the money. Decent gauge steel, and no seams like some of the other cheap safes. It would deter, or slow down a theif, but would not 100% stop them from taking it. On that note given the time, and determination, nothing is going to 100% stop someone from taking a safe.

Also never put it against an exterior wall. They will break through the brick on each side of the safe, wrap a chain around it and just pull it out with a truck.
Say whaaaa?

I've always understood that it SHOULD be placed on an exterior wall. This is so that in case of fire, you can tell the FD where it is and they can help protect the safe and contents.

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Say whaaaa?

I've always understood that it SHOULD be placed on an exterior wall. This is so that in case of fire, you can tell the FD where it is and they can help protect the safe and contents.
This is true, but I've heard it both ways.

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i just got my dad a 16 gun safe at dicks for 440 out the door it a little bit thicker that the one above the brand was a stack on. i thought it was pretty good price. it was in black.

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Wherever you put it, cut the back off a cardboard box and write "Xmas Tree" on the front or sides. Slip it on anytime you want it to stay hidden in plain view. Thieves will walk right by it. Or, use several smaller boxes glued together and write "Clothes, 2004", "pots/pans" or something move-related.
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Say whaaaa?

I've always understood that it SHOULD be placed on an exterior wall. This is so that in case of fire, you can tell the FD where it is and they can help protect the safe and contents.
Never heard that, but guess it makes sense. I would be more worried about someone taking it then a fire so that was my thought when I installed mine.
Quick google search also suggests away from exterior walls so they can not cut out.
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AND bolt it to the studs through the back of the safe.

Me, I just bought a safe big enough that no MF'er I know can move it alone. Hell, it took 3 of us big bastards and a couple of furniture dollies to get it INTO the house.
Same here ittook three of us to put mine in. Its not the biggest but has a hour fire rateing which makes it heavier.
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[QUOTE=Chopped54;6017049]Not the best safe, but will do the job on a budget.
I had this one before I got my real safe. If you can bolt it to something it will do alright.

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save your money and buy a real safe No stack on,sentry,or that crap. American security,liberty, or a granite they are even local (ftworth) and get some redhead anchors and use the holes provided in the bottom. you can put them anywhere in your house if they have a decent fire rating( 1 HR @ least) you should be ok.
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save your money and buy a real safe No stack on,sentry,or that crap. American security,liberty, or a granite they are even local (ftworth) and get some redhead anchors and use the holes provided in the bottom. you can put them anywhere in your house if they have a decent fire rating( 1 HR @ least) you should be ok.
If you have no safe, a cheap one is better than nothign at all.

Once you have one, THEN you save up for a nice one and then SELL the cheap one to someone else so they have a starting point.

Nothing will piss you off more to have your unprotected firearms stolen while youfile away the pennies.
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AND bolt it to the studs through the back of the safe.

Me, I just bought a safe big enough that no MF'er I know can move it alone. Hell, it took 3 of us big bastards and a couple of furniture dollies to get it INTO the house.
When my dad bought his gun safe, they had to take the door casings off a few of the interior doors of the house to fit the safe in. They brought it in on a pallet jack. Parents never did bolt it down, but that sum bitch has be 1000lbs. Its a liberty presidential series

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Wherever you put it, cut the back off a cardboard box and write "Xmas Tree" on the front or sides. Slip it on anytime you want it to stay hidden in plain view. Thieves will walk right by it. Or, use several smaller boxes glued together and write "Clothes, 2004", "pots/pans" or something move-related.
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When my dad bought his gun safe, they had to take the door casings off a few of the interior doors of the house to fit the safe in. They brought it in on a pallet jack. Parents never did bolt it down, but that sum bitch has be 1000lbs. Its a liberty presidential series
Yep, that is what me and my mom both have is Liberty. They are local, built in Garland. My family has bought 5 safes from them and always had good service from them.
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Lowes has a good deal on a Liberty safe until Dec 24. Centurion Series 59"x21"x17", holds 14 guns. $297. I have multiple Liberty Safes and have been very pleased with the quality. Liberty Safe Company is in Utah unless they have recently moved.

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Lowes has a good deal on a Liberty safe until Dec 24. Centurion Series 59"x21"x17", holds 14 guns. $297. I have multiple Liberty Safes and have been very pleased with the quality. Liberty Safe Company is in Utah unless they have recently moved.

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Looks like you are correct, they are out of Utah. Seems the place in Garland was just a distributor using Liberty's name.
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Lowes has a good deal on a Liberty safe until Dec 24. Centurion Series 59"x21"x17", holds 14 guns. $297. I have multiple Liberty Safes and have been very pleased with the quality. Liberty Safe Company is in Utah unless they have recently moved.

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When my dad bought his gun safe, they had to take the door casings off a few of the interior doors of the house to fit the safe in. They brought it in on a pallet jack. Parents never did bolt it down, but that sum bitch has be 1000lbs. Its a liberty presidential series
Mine is about 1,100 lbs empty. It probably nets 1,500 lbs with all the ammo & guns I have in it.... Like I said, if there is a man alive that can move it without help/tools, he can have it. While he's busy wrestling with it, I'm gonna put some .357 mag in him.
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Dicks Sporting Goods has a pretty nice 28/14 StackOn that is Fire (1400 @ 30m) and water resistant (2 ft of water for 72 hrs) for $699. It's a weird color though, black shell and gray door.

What got me looking was that my existing cabinet lets in moisture and I'm sick n tired of doublechecking the silica box and checking things for potential rust. Having a water resistant safe should let the silica last much longer and be an annual rather than monthly ritual.
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Dicks Sporting Goods has a pretty nice 28/14 StackOn that is Fire (1400 @ 30m) and water resistant (2 ft of water for 72 hrs) for $699. It's a weird color though, black shell and gray door.

What got me looking was that my existing cabinet lets in moisture and I'm sick n tired of doublechecking the silica box and checking things for potential rust. Having a water resistant safe should let the silica last much longer and be an annual rather than monthly ritual.
Which one is that?

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Shit, link didn't post :

http://www.dickssportinggoods.com/pr...LAID=280558484

The web price isn't right - it's different in the store (Gallera/635 was where I saw it)
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The price was too good, so I went ahead and bought it. Well - close.

The Onstack model was out of stock with no rainchecks and the display model had a fucked up dial due to customer abuse (warning sign?). However, StackOn makes the "store brand" Field and Stream and honestly I think it looks better. Plus it's got a $50 rebate and is the exact same safe other than the exterior graphics. Sold, pick it up on Saturday.

Mentally I knew just where it was going to go - but a few minutes with a tape measure has got me facepalming myself. I'm about an inch over budget in the direction it was going to go, and to spin it 90 degrees requires a near full redo of the rooms furniture.

I can probably put it in the garage, but that will also require a pretty big adjustment.

No such thing as a free lunch!

Having not picked it up yet I may have to back out of the deal and get a smaller one, or figure out some furniture gymnastics to get it to work. Placing the safe is part of it, but you have to account for the door and that can make or break the whole situation.
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The price was too good, so I went ahead and bought it. Well - close.

The Onstack model was out of stock with no rainchecks and the display model had a fucked up dial due to customer abuse (warning sign?). However, StackOn makes the "store brand" Field and Stream and honestly I think it looks better. Plus it's got a $50 rebate and is the exact same safe other than the exterior graphics. Sold, pick it up on Saturday.

Mentally I knew just where it was going to go - but a few minutes with a tape measure has got me facepalming myself. I'm about an inch over budget in the direction it was going to go, and to spin it 90 degrees requires a near full redo of the rooms furniture.

I can probably put it in the garage, but that will also require a pretty big adjustment.

No such thing as a free lunch!

Having not picked it up yet I may have to back out of the deal and get a smaller one, or figure out some furniture gymnastics to get it to work. Placing the safe is part of it, but you have to account for the door and that can make or break the whole situation.
That sux man. I'm guessing sheet rock/tape & bed mod is not an option!?

I would also have issues leaving one in the garage, worrying about moisture buildup due to temperature changes in the cabinet and causing rust issues.


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I'm in an apartment and have about a year before I'm in a house. I've got an attached garage, but it's really just a thin sheetmetal door. The humidity changes as well gave me pause on the garage. The safe is water resistant, so with some desicant and a golden rod it could make things easier, but I'm thinking i jumped too soon and need to step back down to a smaller unit for the time being.

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Either way, it's a nice safe for the money if anyone else is interested.
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Interesting DIY handgun storage using wooden thread spools. I'm sure you could also accomplish the same thing with cabinet pulls as well, but the thread spools should be super cheap from Joann or MJDesigns.

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no a cheap one is not better than nothing it gives you a false sense of security
a run of the mill dumbass burglar can pry that crap open. I see it all the time
the previously mentioned crap gets pried open the good stuff DON'T. I open them for a living everyday just trying to give you the heads up.
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damn i wish my safe looked like that!

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Interesting DIY handgun storage using wooden thread spools. I'm sure you could also accomplish the same thing with cabinet pulls as well, but the thread spools should be super cheap from Joann or MJDesigns.
That's pretty cool, and inexpensive.


And if only....(his list of armament) :drool:

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no a cheap one is not better than nothing it gives you a false sense of security
a run of the mill dumbass burglar can pry that crap open. I see it all the time
the previously mentioned crap gets pried open the good stuff DON'T. I open them for a living everyday just trying to give you the heads up.
Not necessarily. I'm looking for a cheaper model and feel it would be fine for my application (only a couple of guns/ammo etc..), for now. There are counter measures that can/will fend off your average crook, such as alarms, especially loud ones that project outside for neighbors to hear. There are others too that I won't list (for obvious reasons) but, a cabinet that is secured well, hidden and not easily accessible is another deterrent. Most thieves won't stay in a house for more than a smash/grab scenario, with a loud alarm sounding off, and this doesn't allow time for them to disable a well secured "decent" gun cabinet.

I looked at the one Falcongunner listed at Lowe's last night. It's actually a pretty decent unit. Not bad and probably something I will consider soon.


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Like the spool idea too !!

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no a cheap one is not better than nothing it gives you a false sense of security
a run of the mill dumbass burglar can pry that crap open. I see it all the time
the previously mentioned crap gets pried open the good stuff DON'T. I open them for a living everyday just trying to give you the heads up.
We probably need to define what "cheap" means. The thin steel file cabinet/gun cabinets that have a regular lock - those can be easily snapped and I would tend to agree with you. A few solid kicks and you can get inside. The ones that are listed as a UL "residential security container" push it up into a different area though and are what I'm talking about.


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Not expensive, but better than nothing:
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i ordered the rack that holds 16 pistols on the inside of the safe door from cheaper than dirt earlier this week. i can wait to get it in.

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Dicks Sporting Goods has a pretty nice 28/14 StackOn that is Fire (1400 @ 30m) and water resistant (2 ft of water for 72 hrs) for $699. It's a weird color though, black shell and gray door.

What got me looking was that my existing cabinet lets in moisture and I'm sick n tired of doublechecking the silica box and checking things for potential rust. Having a water resistant safe should let the silica last much longer and be an annual rather than monthly ritual.
Thank you for the help! I went ahead and spent the money and got this one for him! I think he is gonna kick my ass when he finds out! Now I have to figure out how to give it to him for Christmas! He has a lot of valuable guns that have sentimental value as well, so I want him to feel secure about it!!

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i ordered the rack that holds 16 pistols on the inside of the safe door from cheaper than dirt earlier this week. i can wait to get it in.

god bless.
I ordered that as well!! Let me know how you like it! Hopefully he will like it too!

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That's pretty cool, but most burglars work alone, and don't carry 6' pry bars.
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gun safe

Liberty, Cannon,Granite(Redhead),American Security(Amsec), are great they are what i was talking about all have entry level safes starting @ 600 -1000 that have U/L RSC ratings
Cheap= Stack on, Sentry etc

There are countless others that qualify for both catagories


I'm just saying don't keep $10000 worth of guns in a $250 1/8 inch steel cabinet
and I'm not talking about the one pictured with cam locks on the door,I'm talking the one's with junk combo locks that are supposedly a Quality gun safe.

With all due respect most burglars don't get caught. Do some research the quality manufacturers weld anti pry tabs in the bolt work and anti sawing tabs in the walls. Nothing like a frustrated home owner who thought they bought a gun safe. Most quality manufacturers have a burglary/fire guarantee also.

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If you have a locker and it has the tubular locks on it they fall pretty quickly to a common whitebic pen. Did it to mine when I couldn't find the key in a couple minutes. Shortly after I realized that I lost all the guns in a boating accident, then sold that piece of shit...
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