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post #1 of 15 (permalink) Old 12-14-2009, 05:55 PM Thread Starter
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someone school me...

Thinking about an AR type rifle , i dont know s#@t about them. is there a top shelf vs. run of the mill. what do i need to look for on a entry level gun. i dont want to have buyers remorse after $1000.00 + on a gun .so help me out guys.
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post #2 of 15 (permalink) Old 12-14-2009, 06:05 PM
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Is $1000 your budget? Cheaper than Dirt has some $699 rifles right now.

A high end top of the line AR (POF, LWRC) will run about $2000+

I have built 4 CCMG lowers with Del-Ton kits for about $560 each but they are lighweight no frills guns.

Go to cheaper than dirt and just handle the different varriants. Talk to some of the older gun guys and get a feel for what costs what. After that you can compare prices between them, Cabellas, Military Gun Supply, etc.
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thanks sonic93
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www.AR15.com is your friend.

ANYTHING you ever wanted to know is posted in there...
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You can get the colt 6920 for around 1000-1100. It really depends on what you are going to be using it for. Figure out what things you would like the rifle to have as far as barrel length and thickness, chrome lined or not. There are diff options as far as gas length and even piston conversions. If you are looking at really entry level del-ton makes a good rifle and they are caught up now from what ive read. Rock river arms makes a good rifle as well. Spikes tactical makes a good rifle that id say ='s the quality of the colts for less money. The one thing i like about spikes to is If you buy a whole rifle from them it ships with a case and as a standard its either one or two 30rd pmags. I'm not a big fan of the gi mags.

As said tho all the info you could ever want is on the ar-15.com site but beware its all about the bandwagon over there. Its whatever flavor of the month is what they will tell you to buy.

If you will be buying the rifle and plan on holding onto it for a while id buy the colt. Simply because everyone knows the name and everyone holds them to a higher standard. You could buy one and shoot the shit out of it and 5 years from now still make money on it. Right now im building a new rifle with a spikes lower and will be ordering a upper from bcm. After that is done i'll buy a colt.

On the last note If you want to try and put one together yourself. It is super easy, as i think a 3 year old could do it. If you had a del-ton lower and got one of their 16inch rifle kits add the chrome lined option and figure out if you want a 1/7 or 1/9 twist barrel rate. You could have it done for a little over 600 or close to 700. As far as the twist rates go 1/7 will do heavier grain ammo but for general range and use 1/9 is the way to go imho. My rifle with 1/9 shoots 69gr very well.

Hope this helps.

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not really into ak's but a guy i used to work with swore by this site http://www.atlanticfirearms.com/
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post #7 of 15 (permalink) Old 12-14-2009, 06:58 PM Thread Starter
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lots of good info, i guess i got my work cut out for me..its kinda like the old saying goes "speed is a a question of money, how fast you want to go "
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Colts are very good, but also very politically correct.

But, you won't get any better accuracy out of a Colt than you will a Stag, CMMG, Bushy, Armalite, Spikes, etc....
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Colts are very good, but also very politically correct.

But, you won't get any better accuracy out of a Colt than you will a Stag, CMMG, Bushy, Armalite, Spikes, etc....
What makes a Colt politicaly correct? The pins?
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What makes a Colt politicaly correct? The pins?
Pretty much. Try putting a Colt made after, lets say 1994 on any other brand of lower without any machine work.
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There is a big difference between a Colt and a stag or bushmaster.

It's a Colt.

People pay for that, it's the real deal. Just like Armalite AR-10's.
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Get a DPMS LR308, can't go wrong!
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As long as the receivers are forged and machined to mil-spec dimensions and they take mil-spec parts, you can't go wrong.

If I were to buy a complete rifle right now, I'd be looking at Stag and Rock River Arms. Both of those companies offer lifetime warranties on their complete rifles. Some others may as well, but I can't name them off the top of my head.

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There is a big difference between a Colt and a stag or bushmaster.

It's a Colt.

People pay for that, it's the real deal. Just like Armalite AR-10's.
I don't know if you remember Kirk from the river, but he has a Colt and I'd be willing to bet if you didn't know it was a Colt and you fired it with a Bushy/RRA/Stag you couldn't tell the difference.

There's no secret to machining an AR. I'd be curious to find out who machine's Colt's parts. Lewis Machine and Tool (LMT) makes a good portion of the parts for the AR/M16 market..
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