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re-blueing an old pistol?

i bought a kit from academy for like $15.00 bux. is it gonna be worth a shit? i have my grandfathers old ruger blackhawk. it is beat to hell, i got some new hickory grips at the last gun show, now i need to re-blue it. how hard is it? the kit came with 3 bottles, rust/blue remover, cleaner/degreaser, and perma blue. is this something i want to tackle after i put my son to bed this eve. or is it detailed enough that i wouldnt finish this evening and i should wait till the weekend? thanks gents.

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i bought a kit from academy for like $15.00 bux. is it gonna be worth a shit? i have my grandfathers old ruger blackhawk. it is beat to hell, i got some new hickory grips at the last gun show, now i need to re-blue it. how hard is it? the kit came with 3 bottles, rust/blue remover, cleaner/degreaser, and perma blue. is this something i want to tackle after i put my son to bed this eve. or is it detailed enough that i wouldnt finish this evening and i should wait till the weekend? thanks gents.

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I've never used one of the cold blue kits, but properly bluing a gun takes some time, it's all in the prep work. I don't know if I would trust a bluing kit that doesn't involve some elbow grease. I would suggest getting some steel wool on that gun to at least clean that steel and get a good surface to work with. Acids work well, but not as good as some real work.
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sorry, it includes steel wool, wet/dry sandpaper, sponge, blueing daubers, service cloth?, barricade take alongs? instructions.

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sorry, it includes steel wool, wet/dry sandpaper, sponge, blueing daubers, service cloth?, barricade take alongs? instructions.

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yeah, you need to plug the barrel and cylinder to protect them - I usually use foam ear plugs. Prepare to spend a hell of a lot of time prepping that gun properly. You need to sand every square inch of it after you drop it in some acid for a few hours. How it looks in the white is how it's going to look after it's blued.
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cool thanks for the advice. it has no rust at all. just holster and normal wear and tear you would expect on a 46 year old pistol. my grandfather engraved his initials in it. it prolly is not worth anything, but to me it is the most valuable thing in the safe. i look forward to making it look new again!!!

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cool thanks for the advice. it has no rust at all. just holster and normal wear and tear you would expect on a 46 year old pistol. my grandfather engraved his initials in it. it prolly is not worth anything, but to me it is the most valuable thing in the safe. i look forward to making it look new again!!!

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make sure you get all of the grain in the same direction on your final pass, also, the more you polish the steel before you blue it, the smoother/shinier the finish is going to be after the blue. Once you blue it, you can then hit it with some fine steel wool to get it even to a higher sheen. Then spray it with some gun oil to prevent rust - bluing does not prevent rust by itself.
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Be careful - lots of people ruin the value of an old pistol by re-bluing it. Might want to run it by a gunshop for appraisal before you start and see what they suggest.

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Be careful - lots of people ruin the value of an old pistol by re-bluing it. Might want to run it by a gunshop for appraisal before you start and see what they suggest.

yeah someone else told me that as well. i will never sell the pistol, i got it when my grandfather passed away. if i had the old original grips i might consider not doing it. but i had to buy new factory ruger hickory grips for it. my dad replaced the originals with a pair of pachmyers yrs ago when gramps split the original grips using the pistol butt to hammer in a barb wire fence staple. i plan on putting it in a nice case a hanging it up in the house.

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+1 for what CJ said. The more you polish it before you blue, the better it will look.
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Re Bluing

Don't re blue it. Leave it EXACTLY as it is. In time you will appreciate that it looks like it did when he owned it.
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Don't re blue it. Leave it EXACTLY as it is. In time you will appreciate that it looks like it did when he owned it.
I will look for an old pair of grips at the gun show this weekend. That sounds like a good idea also. Thanks bro!

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Leave it like it is

I have a small ball pein hammer that was my dad's. The hammer still has the black tape around the handle where it was cracked. I have other hammers, and a new handle would be just a few dollars, but I'm leaving it just like it was when he used it. I smile every time I see it hanging there on the wall. I bet that pistol will be just like that hammer. Every time you shoot it you will smile. Just another old gun to anyone else will become a treasure to you.
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I've never used one of the cold blue kits, but properly bluing a gun takes some time, it's all in the prep work. I don't know if I would trust a bluing kit that doesn't involve some elbow grease. I would suggest getting some steel wool on that gun to at least clean that steel and get a good surface to work with. Acids work well, but not as good as some real work.
I know, I can't wait to see what my Tokarev and Polish P-64 is gonna look like when you're finished...

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I'd leave it just as it is. That's part of the character of the gun, as well as your grandpa's.

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I have a small ball pein hammer that was my dad's. The hammer still has the black tape around the handle where it was cracked. I have other hammers, and a new handle would be just a few dollars, but I'm leaving it just like it was when he used it. I smile every time I see it hanging there on the wall. I bet that pistol will be just like that hammer. Every time you shoot it you will smile. Just another old gun to anyone else will become a treasure to you.
I have one of my Grandfather's old hammers and cherish it in the same way. It was the first thing I asked for when he passed. He had it since the 50's or so and it is still in good condition after a lot of use over the years (he was a carpentar most of his life). I use the hammer all the time and think about him every time I pick it up.

I thought about making a shadow box for it and a few of his other old hand tools I got but I feel like I am honoring him more by using it for its intended purpose.

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Use it. He would say to you, "Boy, what the hell is my hammer doing in a shadow box? "
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Use it. He would say to you, "Boy, what the hell is my hammer doing in a shadow box? "
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Use it. He would say to you, "Boy, what the hell is my hammer doing in a shadow box? "
lol Just what I was thinking. I have an old hammer that my Grandad made, along with several other of his handmade tools, and they are in my toolbox being used.

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