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CHL and Ride A longs

Is it allowed if you go on a PD Ride A Long to carry with your CHL? Thx

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No. I was told verbally and had to sign a sheet acknowledging I was notified.

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I carried when I did a ride along with fort worth a while back. I wasnt notified at all though so I dont know if I was supposed to or not.
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No. I was told verbally and had to sign a sheet acknowledging I was notified.
What? Is it against the law? What if you and the PO come under fire?

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What? Is it against the law? What if you and the PO come under fire?
Probably not against the law. Probably just liability.

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Depends on the department. My brother works as a city administrator and in two different cities they have had different policies on assisting the officer when doing ride alongs. In a smaller more Hick town the officer showed him how to release the shotgun if he got into trouble, while in a larger urban city the officer told him specifically to stay in the car if he got into trouble.
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Depends on the department. My brother works as a city administrator and in two different cities they have had different policies on assisting the officer when doing ride alongs. In a smaller more Hick town the officer showed him how to release the shotgun if he got into trouble, while in a larger urban city the officer told him specifically to stay in the car if he got into trouble.
See thats why I asked. When I interned at 2 different depts, one in HS and one in College, One told me the the exact same thing about "if shit goes down..." The other one kind of hinted at it. I would think since you already pass a background check, you have your CHL and shit hits the fan it would be accepted. Its just like carrying around town, now you are actually assisting an officer if things go sour. I guess i will have to find out.

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I carried when I did a ride along with fort worth a while back. I wasnt notified at all though so I dont know if I was supposed to or not.
Hmmmm. Wink wink nudge nudge?

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What? Is it against the law? What if you and the PO come under fire?
Your safety is the Officers responsibility and the rules change a little because of that. Any good Officer will let you know what tools are available to you and how/when you can get them (depending on whether he/she knows you and your abilities). At the very least you will be told how to summon help with the emergency buttons.

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No. I was told verbally and had to sign a sheet acknowledging I was notified.
Does it say that? I haven't read that thing in a long time.
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Hmmmm. Wink wink nudge nudge?
I would still like to roll out on a ride along with ya one of these days. Is there a waver to sign?

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i would like to do a ride a along

how would one go about going for a ride a along in dallas?
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i would like to do a ride a along

how would one go about going for a ride a along in dallas?
You should be able to go to any local sub-station and schedule a date.

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I would still like to roll out on a ride along with ya one of these days. Is there a waver to sign?
Yep. The "It's not our fault if you get hurt or die" waiver.
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I know when I did a ride along with FTWPD off lancaster, I was tild how the code to unlock the shotgun and told grab it if it is needed and he is under fire. That was a very everntfull night, friday night 3-11 in the hood.
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Yep. The "It's not our fault if you get hurt or die" waiver.
Id like to go on a ride along some time. I was going to go with one of Rachel's friends but he's in trouble so often that he cant normally have ride alongs .
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From the FWPD Ride-In instructions:



4. Whether or not you have a concealed Handgun License, if you are found to be armed with anyfirearm or prohibited weapon, your request to participate in future "Ride-Ins" will be automatically denied. You may also be subject to arrest for any such violation as per the Texas Penal Code.
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4. Whether or not you have a concealed Handgun License, if you are found to be armed with anyfirearm or prohibited weapon, your request to participate in future "Ride-Ins" will be automatically denied. You may also be subject to arrest for any such violation as per the Texas Penal Code.
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I was a rider with a friend of mine in the Sheriffs Dept last week. I was not able to bring any of my guns along. It wasn't on any paperwork I signed, it was just in my friends paperwork. I did get a quick lesson on how to unlatch the shotgun/AR15.
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4. Whether or not you have a concealed Handgun License, if you are found to be armed with anyfirearm or prohibited weapon, your request to participate in future "Ride-Ins" will be automatically denied. You may also be subject to arrest for any such violation as per the Texas Penal Code.
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4. Whether or not you have a concealed Handgun License, if you are found to be armed with anyfirearm or prohibited weapon, your request to participate in future "Ride-Ins" will be automatically denied. You may also be subject to arrest for any such violation as per the Texas Penal Code.
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Thanks for the info.
Well, you have to think about it this way:

The rules were made for someone that the officer will probably not know. When going to a call that might involve violence (duh - really?) the officer will have to worry about the person called about, and maybe the person with a gun that's behind him. Officers have to make split second decisions, and the ride in with the CHL will more than likely not have the training and/or experiance that the officer has.

Also, what if the ride along gets his gun taken away from him. Now the officer has another gun to worry about.

If the officer knows the ride along, I'm sure the department would never know if the ride along was packing a CHL.

Personally, if I didn't know the person, I would feel better not having that one extra thing in the back of my mind while answering calls.
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Well, you have to think about it this way:

The rules were made for someone that the officer will probably not know. When going to a call that might involve violence (duh - really?) the officer will have to worry about the person called about, and maybe the person with a gun that's behind him. Officers have to make split second decisions, and the ride in with the CHL will more than likely not have the training and/or experiance that the officer has.

Also, what if the ride along gets his gun taken away from him. Now the officer has another gun to worry about.

If the officer knows the ride along, I'm sure the department would never know if the ride along was packing a CHL.

Personally, if I didn't know the person, I would feel better not having that one extra thing in the back of my mind while answering calls.
Nothing to worry about, I was only carrying chloroform, a rag, and some rope last time.
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Well, you have to think about it this way:

The rules were made for someone that the officer will probably not know. When going to a call that might involve violence (duh - really?) the officer will have to worry about the person called about, and maybe the person with a gun that's behind him. Officers have to make split second decisions, and the ride in with the CHL will more than likely not have the training and/or experiance that the officer has.

Also, what if the ride along gets his gun taken away from him. Now the officer has another gun to worry about.

If the officer knows the ride along, I'm sure the department would never know if the ride along was packing a CHL.

Personally, if I didn't know the person, I would feel better not having that one extra thing in the back of my mind while answering calls.
Honestly I totally understand where a officer would be coming from with this. Some of the people that have CHLs I dont like being around anyhow.
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