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Can't decide on a revolver

I just sold a bunch of computers and have always wanted a revolver to keep in the Scion for the "just in case" scenario, I leave my G22 at home because I don't want to risk it being stolen.

I am looking at 2 pretty inexpensive revolvers:


ROSSI .357 REVOLVER BLUE - $275
http://texasguntrader.com/index.php?a=2&b=24685

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Charter Arms 38 special - $225
http://texasguntrader.com/index.php?a=2&b=27080

I am positive the Charter Arms guy can be talked down to $200 cash b/c he already lowered his price on Glock Talk to $210.

I am really liking that .357 though

Need advice on the revolvers...





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.38 Special (and .38 Special +P) is basically a low-pressure 9mm (and 9mm +P). Same diameter bullet, comparable velocity and energy. The only advantage you'll have with a .38 Special over a 9mm is that it's much more difficult to jam a revolver than an automatic; the obvious disadvantages are much less capacity and more time/effort to reload.

That said, a .357 Magnum revolver does everything a .38 Special does, and more. I'd go for the Rossi.


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The only advantage you'll have with a .38 Special over a 9mm is that it's much more difficult to jam a revolver than an automatic; the obvious disadvantages are much less capacity and more time/effort to reload.
Hence why I am getting a revolver, I want something that I can pull out of the console, lock that hammer back, and let go on without worrying it will jam or misfire. And if I can't hit something in 6 shots, then I shouldn't be wielding it in the first place

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That said, a .357 Magnum revolver does everything a .38 Special does, and more. I'd go for the Rossi.
Thanks for the suggestion, I am leaning that way too. What do you think the Rossi is worth?




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Hence why I am getting a revolver, I want something that I can pull out of the console, lock that hammer back, and let go on without worrying it will jam or misfire. And if I can't hit something in 6 shots, then I shouldn't be wielding it in the first place
Remember: a revolver is just as likely to misfire as a semiauto, but if a revolver misfires all you have to do is pull the trigger again. And in a defensive situation, with adrenaline pumping, it's probably better to use double action than single action.
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Thanks for the suggestion, I am leaning that way too. What do you think the Rossi is worth?
Brand new is about $350 + tax. Other than that, no idear.


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Remember: a revolver is just as likely to misfire as a semiauto,

I hired on back in the day when we were all issued S&W .357 Magnum revolvers (Model 65 or 66).

In all the hours at the range, and countless rounds, I have NEVER seen a revolver misfire.
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I hired on back in the day when we were all issued S&W .357 Magnum revolvers (Model 65 or 66).

In all the hours at the range, and countless rounds, I have NEVER seen a revolver misfire.
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What model? I have a model 28-2 with "highway patrolman" written on the side
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If you just want an inexpensive revolver, why not buy a Nagant? Find one locally and you wont have to pay shipping or FFL fees...

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I vote for the .357. I've owned several, and I kick myself in the ass for selling them. Practice with .38's until it's "showtime". 158 grains can do some big damage.

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My out-of-left-field vote goes for gently used 4" Ruger Bisley Vaquero in .41 mag.

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My out-of-left-field vote goes for gently used 4" Ruger Bisley Vaquero in .41 mag.
Actually, I owned a Smith model 657 (.41 mag). Perfect balance ballistically between the .44 mag and the .357. Man, what a hand cannon...

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I have no idea. Says "Service Six", black rubber handle, and I have yet to shoot a .357 out of it.

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My out-of-left-field vote goes for gently used 4" Ruger Bisley Vaquero in .41 mag.
My gunsmith talked about getting rid of his .41 Ruger but it was a blackhawk I think would have liked it but wanted a shorter barrel his was 7.5".
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Actually, I owned a Smith model 657 (.41 mag). Perfect balance ballistically between the .44 mag and the .357. Man, what a hand cannon...
I have a S&W 57-1 its great but the Ruger Super Redhawk I just recieved feels better shooting and its .44 Mag kinda funny I thought after shooting them back to back.
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Actually, I owned a Smith model 657 (.41 mag). Perfect balance ballistically between the .44 mag and the .357. Man, what a hand cannon...
Yeah, I just like the Single Action Colt feel of it, and the bird's head grip.

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I have a S&W 57-1 its great but the Ruger Super Redhawk I just recieved feels better shooting and its .44 Mag kinda funny I thought after shooting them back to back.
That Super Redhawk is a bigger gun, isn't it?

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That Super Redhawk is a bigger gun, isn't it?
Doesn't seem a whole lot bigger but I think it is the Smith has a lil optical illusion cause it has an 8 3/8" and the Ruger has a 7" but the frame is massive it seems but not Dan Wesson massive.
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Check with that place in Abilene. I think it's CDNN investments. They usually have police trade ins for a great price.
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My 8 3/8" 657 looked and felt lighter than my dad's 4" .357 Magnum Redhawk, so I'm betting the Super Redhawk is a much beefier gun.

As for Yale's idea, .41 Mag is a good round, but you want double action (or DA/SA) for defense.


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My vote will always go for the model 1911 "revolver" when it comes to handguns..... oh that's right they didn't make a 1911 revolver.... well get a 1911, because shooting twice is just a waste of ammo.
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My 8 3/8" 657 looked and felt lighter than my dad's 4" .357 Magnum Redhawk, so I'm betting the Super Redhawk is a much beefier gun.

As for Yale's idea, .41 Mag is a good round, but you want double action (or DA/SA) for defense.
Hell .41 Mag was built with police/defense in mind, I persoally use mine to fend of those dangerous texas man eating armadillos.
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I can not speak to the charter .38, but my dad has the rossi 5shot .38 and loves it. He leaves the ruger 9m in the truck and carries the .38. He says it is easier to conceal. i have shot countless rounds through it with no problems. He originally bought it for my mom, but liked it so much he bought her a bersa .380 and kept it. If I am not mistaken you can pick them up for around 200.00.


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My vote will always go for the model 1911 "revolver" when it comes to handguns..... oh that's right they didn't make a 1911 revolver.... well get a 1911, because shooting twice is just a waste of ammo.
.357 Magnum is more powerful than the almighty .45 ACP.
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Hell .41 Mag was built with police/defense in mind, I persoally use mine to fend of those dangerous texas man eating armadillos.
Yeah, but the revolver he mentioned is single action only; Smith & Wesson, Dan Wesson, and Taurus (IIRC), among others, are all double action/single action. The Ruger GP100, SP101, Redhawks, and Super Redhawks are double action/single action. The Blackhawks/Super Blackhawks and Vaqueros are single action only.


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As for Yale's idea, .41 Mag is a good round, but you want double action (or DA/SA) for defense.
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.357 Magnum is more powerful than the almighty .45 ACP. Yeah, but the revolver he mentioned is single action only; Smith & Wesson, Dan Wesson, and Taurus (IIRC), among others, are all double action/single action. The Ruger GP100, SP101, Redhawks, and Super Redhawks are double action/single action. The Blackhawks/Super Blackhawks and Vaqueros are single action only.
Yea they are just grownup versions of my single six but there is alot of cool factor for using a SA for self defense, fucking John Wayne style.
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Smith makes a 3" .44 Mag now I thought about for self defense built just like that but has a ported barrel.
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If you just want an inexpensive revolver, why not buy a Nagant? Find one locally and you wont have to pay shipping or FFL fees...

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x2 on the Nagant. Just picked mine up from Sporting Arms yesterday(and it was from jg). Still have to clean it up.
The only problem with Nagat is its round is kinda weak , some say you can shoot the .32 Magnum out of it but I would be careful cause thats alot more preasure than the gun was designed for.
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x2 on the Nagant. Just picked mine up from Sporting Arms yesterday(and it was from jg). Still have to clean it up.
Speaking of Nagant, and Cold War era shit, I'm really interested in getting a Tokarev, even though I prefer revolvers. Some of those guns are cool as hell and I've heard most are pretty reliable. Have any experience with any models?

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Ammo is pretty powerfull but I've only seen fmj's offered.
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.357 Magnum is more powerful than the almighty .45 ACP. Yeah, but the revolver he mentioned is single action only; Smith & Wesson, Dan Wesson, and Taurus (IIRC), among others, are all double action/single action. The Ruger GP100, SP101, Redhawks, and Super Redhawks are double action/single action. The Blackhawks/Super Blackhawks and Vaqueros are single action only.
That is true. But you can shoot +P ammo from most 1911s, and if you need velocity there is always 38 special +P. And besides if a 1911 can kill a cow easily (original Army tests done circa 1908), it's plenty to kill a person.

And there is a reason why all competitive handgun shooting models are based on the 1911.....

Sadly it isn't a revolver though. Oh well, to each his own.
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That is true. But you can shoot +P ammo from most 1911s, and if you need velocity there is always 38 special +P.
.45 ACP +P still doesn't have anything on .357 Magnum, even in a longer barrel, and .38 Special +P is a relative joke; you're better off with a decent high-capacity 9mm and a spare magazine or two. You can't shoot .38 Special out of a 1911, save for a few target pistols built for .38 Special wadcutters (not good for defense). Unless you're thinking of .38 Super, which is a 9mm bullet with roughly the same power as .45 ACP (more velocity, less weight).

Now, if you want the absolute best of the best in a standard-size 1911, you can't beat the 10mm Auto. Or .45 WinMag, in a beefed-up/large-frame 1911 (LAR Grizzly).


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.45 ACP +P still doesn't have anything on .357 Magnum, even in a longer barrel, and .38 Special +P is a relative joke; you're better off with a decent high-capacity 9mm and a spare magazine or two. You can't shoot .38 Special out of a 1911, save for a few target pistols built for .38 Special wadcutters (not good for defense). Unless you're thinking of .38 Super, which is a 9mm bullet with roughly the same power as .45 ACP (more velocity, less weight).

Now, if you want the absolute best of the best in a standard-size 1911, you can't beat the 10mm Auto. Or .45 WinMag, in a beefed-up/large-frame 1911 (LAR Grizzly).
.460 Rowland as a lil bit of power over 10mm but a forged frame is recomended.
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.460 Rowland as a lil bit of power over 10mm but a forged frame is recomended.
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Oh yeah, forgot about that. Damn.
Yea it bumps a 1911 into the bottom of a .44 mag world
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That is true. But you can shoot +P ammo from most 1911s, and if you need velocity there is always 38 special +P. And besides if a 1911 can kill a cow easily (original Army tests done circa 1908), it's plenty to kill a person.

And there is a reason why all competitive handgun shooting models are based on the 1911.....

Sadly it isn't a revolver though. Oh well, to each his own.
I have killed a cow with a .22LR. Shot placement is the key.

ALL typical hand gun rounds used for defense are WEAK. Shot placement is the key to winning any gun fight. About the only thing that will drop a person instantly without a hit to the brain or spine is a shot gun with buck shot striking the person in the upper chest. If you are having a hard time hitting them because they are running like hell a shot to the pelvis with the aforementioned shot gun will put them down fast as well but they will still have a few minutes of fight left in them if they want to keep fighting so be careful.


All that being said; either one of those revolvers will do what you want.
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I have killed a cow with a .22LR. Shot placement is the key.

ALL typical hand gun rounds used for defense are WEAK. Shot placement is the key to winning any gun fight. About the only thing that will drop a person instantly without a hit to the brain or spine is a shot gun with buck shot striking the person in the upper chest. If you are having a hard time hitting them because they are running like hell a shot to the pelvis with the aforementioned shot gun will put them down fast as well but they will still have a few minutes of fight left in them if they want to keep fighting so be careful.


All that being said; either one of those revolvers will do what you want.
I was thinking of 38 super.... to ElCamino.

svo.... I'm starting to wonder and worry about how many people you've shot while running away.
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svo.... I'm starting to wonder and worry about how many people you've shot while running away.
You shouldn't worry. Most were running towards me and they were all bad.
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My rossi snubby is a good gun, also a small 5 shot. I absolutely love 38 super but it is expensive, both ammo and most guns, most guns chambered for it also aren't very concealable. 38 special is readilly available and in a wide variety of bullets. I've been carrying my k frame smith & wesson snubby lately. 6rnds of +p HP plus a reload should be plenty.

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Some of the new .327 federal mag guns are interesting. They basically get 38spl +P stank out of a .32 revolver, and they can hold 6 rounds where a .38spl gun would hold 5 thanks to their small size.

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Some of the new .327 federal mag guns are interesting. They basically get 38spl +P stank out of a .32 revolver, and they can hold 6 rounds where a .38spl gun would hold 5 thanks to their small size.
Very interesting round not sure how its is now but a few months ago it was almost impossible to get ammo for due to the fact that there was only one manufactuer.
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