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Gun project - Hawken 50 cal blackpowder

I got this REPLICA Hawkin 50 cal blackpowder among a lot that I purchased. Anyone have one of these? These were sold in kits, right?

Not real impressed with the workmanship not to mention its got some rust where it wasn't stored well. I am cleaning it up to hang over the fireplace and maybe take it out to shoot once in a while. I started by sanding off the ugly ass monogram the PO had on it. The staining on the stock sucks so I am going to strip it down and start over. One thing that bugs me is that all the brass work has a clear lacquer coating that makes it look cheap and yellow. I am cleaning all that off to let the brass "age" a little. I'm also going over all the sharp edges with a file to smooth things out.

The tamping rod or whatever you call it was replaced with an aluminum arrow shaft. I am thinking I'll just get a wooden arrow, cut it down and find some kind of brass tip to look more authentic. I'll get some pics up. This is my first gun project.

What kind of finish should the barrel have? To look really authentic I'm guessing just steel wool and oil and leave it bare metal? Bluing or parkerizing wouldn't have existed back then.

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I got this Hawkin 50 cal blackpowder among a lot that I purchased. Anyone have one of these? These were sold in kits, right?

Not real impressed with the workmanship not to mention its got some rust where it wasn't stored well. I am cleaning it up to hang over the fireplace and maybe take it out to shoot once in a while. I started by sanding off the ugly ass monogram the PO had on it. The staining on the stock sucks so I am going to strip it down and start over. One thing that bugs me is that all the brass work has a clear lacquer coating that makes it look cheap and yellow. I am cleaning all that off to let the brass "age" a little. I'm also going over all the sharp edges with a file to smooth things out.

The tamping rod or whatever you call it was replaced with an aluminum arrow shaft. I am thinking I'll just get a wooden arrow, cut it down and find some kind of brass tip to look more authentic. I'll get some pics up. This is my first gun project.

What kind of finish should the barrel have? To look really authentic I'm guessing just steel wool and oil and leave it bare metal? Bluing or parkerizing wouldn't have existed back then.
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I blued the one i made...ill post some pics...

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I'm pretty sure bluing existed
I'm not sure how to "date" the gun. I mean I know it was sold by Sears, made in Japan and bought out of a catalog in the past 20 - 30 years, but I don't know what time period it was supposed to represent.

When did bluing first begin?
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Is it a flintlock or a percussion cap fired rifle?

Sounds like a fun project frank, post up some photos when you are done!
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When did bluing first begin?
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Finish on old guns

I think you can use venigar to get a "Browned" finish. I did that in an old double barreled shotgun.
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vinegar is simply a very diluted acid, essentially it's just stripping the metal down and then rusting.
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Is it a flintlock or a percussion cap fired rifle?

Sounds like a fun project frank, post up some photos when you are done!
Its a percussion. Here is a picture of one (not mine) but same rifle.

I learned of another way of achieving a nice finish using vinegar. I will wrap parts individually tightly in white cotton strips soaked with white vinager & allowed to "cook" for several days keeping the rags wet with vinagar - It gives it a pattern sort of like damasus (cant think of any other word).
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You can also use a candle to case-color that gun. It's pretty cool looking.

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