Originally Posted by Cobra Commander
No one wants to point fingers at minorities because its not true. Minorities do not cause anymore crime than whites and this has been proven in many university type studies. Studies by some of the most respected sociology (phd) professors in the country. When I was studying criminology, we had to due term papers over this subject. We had to document all the violent crimes reported either in the newspaper or television. Visit local criminal courtrooms and sit through trials. Its just a perception of the media. They run or expose these stories to attract readers/viewers etc. So people believe that its all the blacks, but they mean(minorities) that are causing all this gun crime. The problem is that a lot of violent gun crime occurs in all poor communities. It doesn't matter whether they are in the mountains of West Virginia/Kentucky or the South-side of Chicago. Violent gun crimes are not predisposed to matters of race, its mostly due to drugs. Because our government can't (or won't) keep drugs from entering the U.S. As long as we have broken borders allowing drugs to enter the country, we are going to continue to see violent gun crimes etc. Its a cycle that involves the dealers who make a lot of money from addicts. The addicts, who rob, cheat, and steal to get money for their habit.
I agree with you as a whole about crime, drugs, and economic status. The source I was quoting had nothing to do with the media just national compiled gun crime statistics (which also included suicides if I recall). It also was at a national scale and from that scale it looked like gun crime did not exist in Middle America (which we know it does). It could be that the Department of Justice made a mistake as it was about 5-6 years ago. I know I was startled when I saw it. After some searching, I couldn’t find it on the DOJ/FBI website and I suspect it has been removed. In looking at 2007 data (the latest complete data for all crime) whites commit a higher percentage of crime in any category
except gambling and prostitution. Didn’t matter what community
it was in, whites commit most of the crime. If one adjusts (which they do not) for percentage of population, crime rate looks way different by race. Another point is that the data makes no distinction between whites and Hispanics, they are lumped together ( I find that realy interesting). Get your calculator out and look at the data. It changes, so make your on conclusion.
I won't dispute your class work because I really don't know what is taught in Criminology these days and I may stand corrected The classes I had years 35 years ago (when I wanted to be a CSI type biologist) didn't deal with race or economic status.
I will say this, in the scientific world; the Sociologist is the lowest level of scientific scrutiny. Meaning they sometimes distort their studies to fit their agendas or their studies are just poorly done. It’s not that this doesn’t happen in all of the sciences, just more prevalent in the Social Sciences. Also be aware that not everything taught in a university is accurate or true, particularly in the social or behavioral sciences.
Having said all of that I still feel that we as a nation do not deal with drugs, race, poverty, and social well being very effectively. What ever we have done is not working very well. That should tell us something about where to go next.
Wayne in FW