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post #1 of 32 (permalink) Old 07-08-2009, 04:33 AM Thread Starter
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Comments? Critizisms? Likes? Looking into getting a personal AR, department uses BushMaster AR with rails and EOtechs. I carry a Sig 226 .40 for my duty weap. Saw the SIG 556 the other day and thought "dang thats nas."

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post #2 of 32 (permalink) Old 07-08-2009, 07:00 AM
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Couple of guys I know have one and they like them very, very much.

They are a little barrel heavy, but nice, reliable weapons.
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My brother in law has one and he is very happy with it.

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They are outstanding rifles. It's like the Germans were asked to make their version of the perfect AK and the 556 is what they came up with. I love mine.
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Great gun that's not picky on ammo. Only complaint I had was how the gun gets scratched by the ejected shells. It's only cosmetic though.
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post #6 of 32 (permalink) Old 07-08-2009, 09:31 AM
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I thought they were heavy as fuck.
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Buddy of mine has 556 Classic with an Aimpoint. He loves it. He likes the german stuff in general, but carries a Glock as standard issue in NO PD.

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I'm confused with all the "German" references... Correct me if I'm wrong, but SIG is Swiss, not German.

H&K is German, and they make the HK416, which is indeed a Deutsche-ized version of the M16/M4/AR15.

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They are outstanding rifles. It's like the Germans were asked to make their version of the perfect AK and the 556 is what they came up with. I love mine.
I think you mean AR.

I got to shoot one last weekend, I thought it was cool, but honestly... It's just a real expensive AR-15.
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I think you mean AR.

I got to shoot one last weekend, I thought it was cool, but honestly... It's just a real expensive AR-15.
He was right. The Sig 556 operates on the same gas piston principal as the AK-47, but in AR form.
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He was right. The Sig 556 operates on the same gas piston principal as the AK-47, but in AR form.
yeah it has the piston-driven system that vents gases and unburned powder out the front of the weapon rather than back into the action, but overall it reminds me of a really fancy AR than an AK.
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yeah it has the piston-driven system that vents gases and unburned powder out the front of the weapon rather than back into the action, but overall it reminds me of a really fancy AR than an AK.
It was designed with the AK reliability but in AR form.
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They are a little barrel heavy, but nice, reliable weapons.
Agreed, I just cant get over the placement of the safety. Its a bit far out from the pistol grip for my taste. I am also not a fan of it using its own hand guards, if they had put the controls in almost the same place as the AR and used M4 hand guards it would be a winner in my book. IMHO I like the HK416 for a piston driven ar variant better than I do the 556. I know it operates like a AK but it was marketed as a AR replacement as far as I can tell.
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I got one... just have not shot it yet!

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I'd rather have this:

http://www.robarm.com/products.asp?cat=10

than the Sig 556
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http://www.robarm.com/products.asp?cat=10

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I know nothing about those. I would love to get my dirty little irish mitts on a SCAR though.
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I know nothing about those. I would love to get my dirty little irish mitts on a SCAR though.
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If you want to spend $500-$1000 more on an AR than you ought to..... sure.
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One word... Expensive. AR = SIG556
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I'd rather have a Ruger SR-556.

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One word... Expensive. AR = SIG556
The 556's are only a couple hundred dollars more than a Colt AR and the 556 comes with picatinny rails.

They aren't that expensive.

Now some of the Sig pistols on the other hand....
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The 556's are only a couple hundred dollars more than a Colt AR and the 556 comes with picatinny rails.

They aren't that expensive.

Now some of the Sig pistols on the other hand....
LOL the Sig is only a few more hundred than the Colt. Since when is Colt a great value?

Seriously get a DPMS AR, a Rock River lower and buy an upper.... or build your own AR. I built my AR for $700 and could duplicate it for $650 if I needed to. I guarantee it is as accurate as a 556 or Colt. It is far more accurate than 99.9999% of the marksman in this world.

I've shot M16 A2s, A3s, and other military weapons and various ARs. The only difference between them all comes down to how much you want to overspend.

I realize this is a hobby too, so a lot of people are after "bling" etc. That's cool.

However if you value form and function most, then build your own AR and spend the rest on ammunition and practice. When the zombies do come, you'll be better off than the guys that went for bling.

If you are a zombie, please install a flashlight on your weapon, it gives me a nice point of aim. Thanks.
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LOL the Sig is only a few more hundred than the Colt. Since when is Colt a great value?

Seriously get a DPMS AR, a Rock River lower and buy an upper.... or build your own AR. I built my AR for $700 and could duplicate it for $650 if I needed to. I guarantee it is as accurate as a 556 or Colt. It is far more accurate than 99.9999% of the marksman in this world.

I've shot M16 A2s, A3s, and other military weapons and various ARs. The only difference between them all comes down to how much you want to overspend.

I realize this is a hobby too, so a lot of people are after "bling" etc. That's cool.

However if you value form and function most, then build your own AR and spend the rest on ammunition and practice. When the zombies do come, you'll be better off than the guys that went for bling.

If you are a zombie, please install a flashlight on your weapon, it gives me a nice point of aim. Thanks.
The point is that the 556 is not really that expensive. It's easy to say that a 556 is about "bling" when you don't know much about the gun itself. Those who know about the Sig 556 know that there are a few advantages over the AR15.

One of the biggest differences is that unlike the direct gas system in the AR15, the 556 vents it's unburned powder and gasses out of the front of the weapon instead of clouding up the action. That means it is easier to clean, more efficient, and more reliable.

That is just one of a few of the things that makes it a better rifle. There's also the fact that it's chambered in 5.56 which makes it even cooler in my book.

BTW, if the zombies attack, they be on the receiving end of an AK or Saiga 12.
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The point is that the 556 is not really that expensive. It's easy to say that a 556 is about "bling" when you don't know much about the gun itself. Those who know about the Sig 556 know that there are a few advantages over the AR15.

One of the biggest differences is that unlike the direct gas system in the AR15, the 556 vents it's unburned powder and gasses out of the front of the weapon instead of clouding up the action. That means it is easier to clean, more efficient, and more reliable.

That is just one of a few of the things that makes it a better rifle. There's also the fact that it's chambered in 5.56 which makes it even cooler in my book.

BTW, if the zombies attack, they be on the receiving end of an AK or Saiga 12.
If you think venting the gases out the front instead of using them to ensure the next round is chambered properly and that it is "5.56" makes it worth double what a fully functional, reliable and accurate AR-15 is gonna cost, then by all means, get a dozen. You can get ARs chambered in 5.56 too.... or 6.8 rem.... or 7.62X39 or dang near anything else you want.

I'm going to get some 6.8 rem SPC magazines and a 6.8 upper for mine. If the zombies come they will be eating 6.8, but I can shoot 223 for practice until that happens .

And if the zombies are bigger or further away, I have something for that too.

Seriously for the price of a SIG 556, a guy could have an AR in 5.56/.223 and a full 6.8 rem spc upper to go along with it and a pile of ammo..... and probably a few other accesories they might want.

And as for that powder and gas clouding the action.... I've shot over 200 rounds at one sitting through an AR with absolutely no problems. I'm sure I could shoot 1000 at a time between cleanings if I wanted, but my pockets aren't that deep.
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you can easily shoot 1000 rounds through an AR without any issues. I've shot and shot and shot my AR and not cleaned it when I was out and about.
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I'm sure I could shoot 1000 at a time between cleanings if I wanted, but my pockets aren't that deep.
Sure. And you could also fuck a bitch with HIV and not get infected. But is your life worth it?
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Sure. And you could also fuck a bitch with HIV and not get infected. But is your life worth it?
what the fuck? You have some serious misunderstanding about everything AR, we've had this discussion before, you're of the opinion AR's jam constantly, and your AK-47 is superior.
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what the fuck? You have some serious misunderstanding about everything AR, we've had this discussion before, you're of the opinion AR's jam constantly, and your AK-47 is superior.
The AK is more reliable and when my life depends on something, I want it reliable.
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When my life depends on it I want accuracy. If your target is 400 yards away and you're sporting an ak, you're a dead man, period. What is more common..a jam or seeing a target before he sees you?
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When my life depends on it I want accuracy. If your target is 400 yards away and you're sporting an ak, you're a dead man, period. What is more common..a jam or seeing a target before he sees you?
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Sure. And you could also fuck a bitch with HIV and not get infected. But is your life worth it?
When did a lethal bug crawl up your butt and make you angry?

And how does this witty retort disprove that you can shoot 1K rounds out of an AR that costs half what a SIG 556 costs?

So you can't support the argument, and resort to name calling..... have a degree in law too?
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The AK is more reliable and when my life depends on something, I want it reliable.
Well if shooting bullets = reliable than the AK is indeed reliable....

The AR can shoot just as many bullets just as often and has a much better chance of hitting it's target.

If stopping power is your issue you can get ARs in 7.62X39 or 6.8 Rem SPC.... same stopping power, just as reliable and more accurate. Insane, huh?

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