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Anyone have trouble with Wolf ammo?

Talking to my cousin yesterday and he said he was shooting Wolf in his M1 Garand and a case melted to the bolt. He had to kick the hell out of the bolt to get the case off of the bolt and he said it was basically ruined after that.

Anyone have major problems? I know it is a dirty ammo, but any problems because of the coating on the steel case?

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Talking to my cousin yesterday and he said he was shooting Wolf in his M1 Garand and a case melted to the bolt. He had to kick the hell out of the bolt to get the case off of the bolt and he said it was basically ruined after that.

Anyone have major problems? I know it is a dirty ammo, but any problems because of the coating on the steel case?
Del-Ton (DTI) puts a piece of paper with your order that says if you shoot Wolf or any other lacquer coated cartridges that it voids your warranty. That says a lot to me, but I do not have any first-hand experience with Wolf ammo yet.

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It was probably the lacquered case ammo that he was shooting, and yes the lacquer gets hot and if you leave it in there it will cool and stick in the tube.
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I shoot wolf in pistols all the time just for target practice. It is a little dirty, but I have never had any issues.

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I have shot thousands of rands of Wolf ammo through my Glock without any issues. Just clean it really well afterwards.

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It was probably the lacquered case ammo that he was shooting, and yes the lacquer gets hot and if you leave it in there it will cool and stick in the tube.

Yup.

The newer polymer coated stuff won't do that.

BTW, I've shot THOUSANDS of rounds of the lacquer coated stuff through my Bushmaster without a single problem. I just clean it afterwards and it's good to go.

Now my AK on the other hand, I've shot at least 5k rounds through it, all lacquer coated stuff, I still haven't cleaned it from 2 July 4th celbrations ago, and it still runs all day....

AFAIK, the Wolf isn't "dirtier" than any other ammo I've shot. Now if you want to talk dirty, then go run some SRTA ammo through your AR. 10 rounds would make a nun curse like a sailor if she had to clean the gun...
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It was probably the lacquered case ammo that he was shooting, and yes the lacquer gets hot and if you leave it in there it will cool and stick in the tube.
I agree.... I dont have any problems with wolf in my AR... but my H&K will not feed it...

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My Ars wouldnt shoot lacquered Wolf. Jammed constantly.
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My del-ton Ar15 runs wolfe no problem.....my sks had a few problems running it after a couple hundred it would not eject them right but I had also not gotten all the cosmoline out of it. Now that I have it runs wolfe just fine too.

Are you running the old green Wolf, or the new gray Wolf?
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My AK eats Wolf lacquered like a fat kid eats cake.

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My Ars wouldnt shoot lacquered Wolf. Jammed constantly.
Did you leave one in a hot chamber?


I never had an issue. Run a mag or seven, break the rifle open, remove BCG and put it on a table (one of the huge wooden spools we have down there) and let it cool.

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I just shot it. It was years ago, so I dont remember what I did. It would fire 5 or so rounds, jam. Over and over.

I do remember burning the ammo when I got pissed at it.
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I agree.... I dont have any problems with wolf in my AR... but my H&K will not feed it...
Same here ar never an issue, but my hk usp 40 didn't like the steel cased wolf.
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wolf polymer jacket netted me a squib in my ak



will not shoot again, im lucky that i didnt pull the trigger afterwords.
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never had an issue with my saiga ak...
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wolf polymer jacket netted me a squib in my ak



will not shoot again, im lucky that i didnt pull the trigger afterwords.
I can testify that I've seen over 500,000 WOLF rounds put down range. Every July 4th we go to the river and camp out. Been doing it for 20 years. Wolf is the cheapest, so it's the most common ammo shot down there. We like shooting and there are some full auto guns and a LOT of fickling going on. I've put over 5 mags of Wolf through my Bushmaster in under 2 minutes, enough to get the gas tube glowing cherry red.

Believe me when I say your experience is not common. Your post is the first I've ever heard. I'm not saying it can't happen, but that I've never seen it.
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I've shot thousands of rounds out of my rifles using wolf.

The only issue you'll have, is that you MUST Clean the chamber after you shoot the steel cased ammo. Steel doesn't expand as quickly as the brass shells. As a result, you'll get some carbon buildup in your chamber. This is fine with steel cased ammo, but if you put brass ammo into the chamber, it will expand fully over the carbon and get stuck.

Get some good old carb cleaner and a chamber brush and clean your chamber good with it. You shouldn't have any issues with it.

I've YET to see the laquer on the shells actually melt to a chamber. Everything I've seen is the carbon buildup that gets people switching from steel to brass.

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