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post #1 of 24 (permalink) Old 01-21-2009, 03:22 PM Thread Starter
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I saw this over on LS2.com, apparently some guy on AR-15.com was involved in an office shooting, freakin insane! Copied and pasted directly from LS2:

Thread on AR-15.com: http://www.ar15.com/forums/topic.htm...=341905&page=1

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http://www.khou.com/topstories/stor...ng.da65fb3.html

http://abclocal.go.com/ktrk/story?s...&id=6613052

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Okay, from the top: In my office when I hear my boss SCREAMING something. I run out to the reception area (RA) and see him with a small 380 drawing a bead on some chick with a COMPOUND BOW - and I see my friend standing with a fucking arrow IN HIS CHEST. Boss has the gal covered so I drag my friend into his office to get him out of the line of fire should she draw again.

I RUN out of his office, thru a side exit and retrieve my HK from my vehicle. Woman now in conference room (CR) in the front of the building. I position myself outside in the parking lot on a vehicle to watch her hunkered down in the CR. I can see her clearly, boss now cannot see her as there is a wall blocking his view.

My intent is to keep he in that CR so she doesn't get to anyone else.

A few minutes go by and she sees my employees exiting the building through an alternate exit going across the parking lot. She stands up and points a SA pistol at them (first time I saw a pistol) so I double tap 2 rounds right over her head to drop her down again in the corner of the CR. She drops.

Several minutes later she hears something in the RA, where boss is with his 380, and she stands up again and points the gun at the wall as if she's about to shoot through the wall (potentially at boss or our man down and 2 employees that are tending to him.

I shoot again a gnats ass over her head and she drops again. Now before you guys hammer me for not tapping her CM (which I could have as I shoot regularly), I learned when I was dragging my friend away that this woman is the daughter of one of our engineers. She has severe mental issues. My goal again was to keep her in that CR until HPD arrived.

That didn't happen.

A few minutes later she charges out of the CR and my boss unloads his 380 on her (6 rounds). I flank the vehicle I'm behind and take bead to the front door. I see her down on the floor, some blood under her. I enter with my weapon covering her every second and verify that the pistol had been dropped and was a good 15 feet from her.

I try to apply compresses to her wounds (one knee and one upper chest near shoulder). She's freaking out screaming that I work for the devil and I'm a coward for not killing her. I back off and then saw something that I didn't fucking expect.

She got up, grabbed her bow and went back into the CR! Remember that boss is out of ammo as his 380 is a little bitty bug. I retreat to the entryway of my friend's office where he is down, arrow in chest, (with 2 other employees), knelt, and drew a defensive hard sight bead on that CR door with my finger on the trigger.

I told her that if she came out of that room I would shoot her before she got a single step. Must have taken HPD 25 minutes to arrive and enter but they finally entered and shot her several times (not sure how many actual hits).

Found out that friend is going to be okay as the arrow went all the way across his chest but was not deep with respect to the front of his body. Not sure if the arrow clipped lungs or not. Will see him tomorrow.

Shit.

Not your average day at the office.

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post #2 of 24 (permalink) Old 01-21-2009, 03:26 PM
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post #3 of 24 (permalink) Old 01-21-2009, 03:31 PM
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better make an assault bow ban.

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better make an assault bow ban.
I'm sure it is already in the works.

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better make an assault bow ban.
Nah, just ban the arrows.

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It's all fun and games until someone has an arrow sticking out of their chest.

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I don't care if she's someone's daughter or not. She just shot a MFer with an arrow and has a gun.


All he did was prolong the inevitable.
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I don't care if she's someone's daughter or not. She just shot a MFer with an arrow and has a gun.


All he did was prolong the inevitable.
I *think* that his point was that because she was the daughter of an engineer, that it was common knowlege that she was mentally unstable, thus deserving a little compassion. Though I agree with you, if Corky from Life Goes On comes charging at me with a deadly weapon, and intent in his eyes, the voices won't be the only thing running through his head (headshot).

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I *think* that his point was that because she was the daughter of an engineer, that it was common knowlege that she was mentally unstable, thus deserving a little compassion. Though I agree with you, if Corky from Life Goes On comes charging at me with a deadly weapon, and intent in his eyes, the voices won't be the only thing running through his head (headshot).

I can understand that, and it would be VERY hard to kill someone I know, but when it comes down to the survival instinct, I might have gotten shot/stabbed, but the other guy is dying and I'm the one going home.

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the slingshot is the concealed carry model.
The one I had as a kid I bought from .... well I can't remember the name. It was a hardware store that's gone out of business years ago....

It was the black plastic one that you put ball bearings in the bottom. It had a button you pushed and they came out. Kinda like a built in magazine. The straps looked like tarp straps with a piece of leather for the pouch.

I could put a serious hurting on something with one of those....
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Damn! Bet that was one hell of an adrenaline dump...
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The one I had as a kid I bought from .... well I can't remember the name. It was a hardware store that's gone out of business years ago....

It was the black plastic one that you put ball bearings in the bottom. It had a button you pushed and they came out. Kinda like a built in magazine. The straps looked like tarp straps with a piece of leather for the pouch.

I could put a serious hurting on something with one of those....
My cousin and I had those when we were kids. Those things were lethal.

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The one I had as a kid I bought from .... well I can't remember the name. It was a hardware store that's gone out of business years ago....

It was the black plastic one that you put ball bearings in the bottom. It had a button you pushed and they came out. Kinda like a built in magazine. The straps looked like tarp straps with a piece of leather for the pouch.

I could put a serious hurting on something with one of those....
Was it one of those crossmans?

I had one too, couldn't ever hit shit with it.

My dad bought me a BB gun when I was 9 years old or so, I shot just about every window, tail light, headlight, and bird, and he immediately took it away - haha.
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Thats some crazy shit. I only hope I can remain as calm if the need ever arises.

Wow.






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What a mess... not to second guess the situation but if he wanted to subdue and not kill her, he should have physically restrained her after the boss shot her and she was on the ground.

The weapon was 15' away, grab some tape, an electric cord, belt, mouse, keyboard, network cable and wrap it around her arms and legs...

Who the hells knows... what a shitty situation...
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Yeah it sounds like tht guy was an absolute coward, shooting not to kill with no regard for other peoples safety. He could have shot someone else, fucking moron.
LOL at HPD taking 25 minutes to get to a situation where shots are fired and someone has an arrow sticking out of their chest.

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Yeah it sounds like tht guy was an absolute coward, shooting not to kill with no regard for other peoples safety. He could have shot someone else, fucking moron.
LOL at HPD taking 25 minutes to get to a situation where shots are fired and someone has an arrow sticking out of their chest.

Yea, you never know when your round can go through one of those flimsy office walls.


I'm REALLY shocked at HPD taking that long. They have a VERY bad rep about having itchy trigger fingers and questionable/weak deadly use of force issues.

I would have figured more of them would have wrecked into each other trying to get there for a "kill"..
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A lot of this doesn't make sense.

For instance, how does a person with a gun fail to restrain someone with who has been shot in the knee and shoulder?

I feel sorry for everyone involved.

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I try to apply compresses to her wounds (one knee and one upper chest near shoulder). She's freaking out screaming that I work for the devil and I'm a coward for not killing her. I back off and then saw something that I didn't fucking expect.

She got up, grabbed her bow and went back into the CR!
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