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How to turn a $50 pos Nagant into something pretty

I had a lot of PM's and questions lately about refinishing stocks, so I decided I'd try make a little project the next time I did a gun.

I found a post on the forum for a $50 mosin nagant and I decided to pick it up and see if I could turn it into something pretty. PrimeredJunk was nice enough to meet up and hand it over. Mechanically the gun was sound, there was a broken magazine clasp and some other small issues, but I was able to fix all of them quickly.

So, here is what we started with:







I noticed immediately the gun was a Hungarian M44 Carbine, which is the preferred country of origin when it comes to Nagants since hungary generally had superior machining and tooling, their guns are tighter, and better overall - the most sought after Mosin-Nagant would be the M/52, which is the hungarian sniper rifle. Because of this, I checked the gun thoroughly and it looks fairly worn, but the bore was in good condition, and overall this is the nagant I wanted in my gun case. The ammo (7.62X54R) is about as cheap as it gets, so it will be a fun shooter.

The furniture is in terrible condition, appears that it's been an issued rifle which continually banged against the grunt while on a sling. The metal is rough, and rusted in places.

I decided my goal for this gun would be to make a very pretty show piece. I will never take it out hunting, and really it will spend most of it's time in my case, so my approach to this one will be different, as I will use higher quality (but less durable) finishes and methods.



First step in any refinish is to throw a damp towel on the wood and place a hot iron over it. This causes the deep dents and impressions in the stock to rise up to a more flush level. I wouldn't mention a step in any process unless I knew it actually worked, and this does certainly work.

After that, I started sanding down with 80 grit, then 150grit.

Here is the stock after sanding:





Minwax conditioner and masked off metal.

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Ready to be conditioned, and stained. Here is the basic process shown on the upper wood.


Sanded bare wood.


Conditioned wood.


Stained wood.

I decided to use a dark red stain, which is common to most russian weapons, and I've always been partial to the deep reds.

From here you begin to clear. You can also use stock oils if the gun is going to be used regularly. I decided to use a polyurethane clear coat, it provides the best finish, and for guns that don't see a lot of use, it's worth the trade off on durability.

When clearing, make sure the wood is completely wiped clear of stain, and there are no surface oils present. To get a good finish you need to make sure you have plenty of coats of clear. I prefer to use spray cans, and normally around 10 coats does the job. I wait between 5-6 hours between coats to when they are hard tacky, or completely dry. If you have an autoclave (or an oven) you can cut that down to about 45 minutes between coats. Once it's nice and coated I wetsand the finish flat, and then polish with soem 3M 3000 cutting compound. Don't worry if you burn through the clear, just restain the lighter portion, and hit it with clear again, start over.

I also decided I would polish all the steel on this one, which proved to be one of the most laborious parts of this gun. The machining quality was good, however some of it was rough, which required me to start with a 60grit, then 150, then 400, then I went to a 2000grit for polish, and then used mothers metal polish for the final. After that your favorite oil to prevent rust will do the job.

Total time involved was about a week on and off, an hour or two a day - a lot of time was spent drying stain/clear.

Here is the final product:




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Holy shit...that's incredible!
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Man that is killer, what did you use to polish the metal?

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Man that is killer, what did you use to polish the metal?
it's in the post, I used 60-150-400-2000grit then mothers polish.
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must have missed it.....cool, I've been trying to find a project rifle like that to refinish, know of any local sources for nagant rifles?

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must have missed it.....cool, I've been trying to find a project rifle like that to refinish, know of any local sources for nagant rifles?
try a wanted add in the forum, I try to get local ftf's, normally you can get better deals. When I met primered junk in the parking lot I had guys coming up to me offering to sell all sorts of guns.
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That is GORGEOUS!

Congrats, that is nicely done....
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man, i might have to buy one of these now
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Damn that's awesome. I may polish my 53 Hungarian M44 like that one. I may leave my stock alone though, it looks pretty good.

Here's a quick pic:



On second thought, if I polished it like you did, it would probably make the stock look like shit, so I may follow your whole write up.

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Thats a very nice finished product, ever thought about doing that then selling?
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Nicely done.
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Thats a very nice finished product, ever thought about doing that then selling?
I thought about it, but the thing couldn't be worth more than 100 bucks or so I would imagine. If I could get my hand on some cheap Nagant's I'd be willing to give it a shot.
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That is one dead sexy rifle. Well done bro!
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Dammit man, that is some nice work!

I want to throw a nice wood stock on my AK (non plywood) because I'm tired of synthetic stocks on everything I own.

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Dammit man, that is some nice work!

I want to throw a nice wood stock on my AK (non plywood) because I'm tired of synthetic stocks on everything I own.
I can make custom stocks too, it's pretty fun.
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I want to throw a nice wood stock on my AK (non plywood) because I'm tired of synthetic stocks on everything I own.
Wood stocks on an AK really pump my nads!
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Came out very nice.....thanks for sharing the instructions with all of us!
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Right!
Here is what I'm working with. But outside of my 10/22 and a mossberg 12ga, everything I have is all blacked out.

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Looks good! I really want to polish the charging handle on my AK, but its got grease on it and im afraid of lubrication issues if i remove it.

I need to post pics of my varnish job on my stocks that I did.

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That does not even look like the same one! I have an old .22 rifle I might have you do.
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Looks good! I really want to polish the charging handle on my AK, but its got grease on it and im afraid of lubrication issues if i remove it.

I need to post pics of my varnish job on my stocks that I did.
you can polish it easily. I polished an SKS like this as well and it's been operating fine for years.
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That does not even look like the same one! I have an old .22 rifle I might have you do.
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you can polish it easily. I polished an SKS like this as well and it's been operating fine for years.
Did you re-grease the gas piston, or put any Oil on it afterwards?

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Did you re-grease the gas piston, or put any Oil on it afterwards?
oh yeah, when you polish anything you have to clean the gun meticulously because of the metal shavings. Polished internals require less oil do to less friction, which is another bonus.
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looks real good,you did a nice job man!

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What was that part about $50????

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uh, hehe, wtf...

I might be worth that if it was a very early finnish nagant, with the pre-war stock joint and walnut stock, but this isn't one of them. Some people just don't get it. I just finished up a board members SKS in the same fashion as this nagant, I'll post up some pictures this evening probably.
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Its on Glock talk, what do you expect! lol...

Very nice refinish job. I think it would be fun to refinish old rifles like that. Long after we're dead and gone, that rifle will be around looking as good as new... Kinda cool...
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So is that stainless? It doesn't look like it in the original post. Is it just regular gunmetal polished up? Did you put anything on it to keep it shiny?
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So is that stainless? It doesn't look like it in the original post. Is it just regular gunmetal polished up? Did you put anything on it to keep it shiny?
yep it's just steel polished. All you had to do is polish it a few times a year and it will keep.
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