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Let's say a man wanted to buy an AK...

Where can I got to educate myself on quality of different versions? Where is the best place to buy? Gunbroker.com? Gun Show? Educate me, I'm a novice to AKs and I really want to get one as well as a few other choice pieces before the People's Republic of Obama gets in full swing.
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I'm very happy with my Romainian, side folder. Romanian is good for a cheap ($200-400) import.


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Damn. AlP buying an AK...
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They are pretty decent. Some of the better ones are Saiga's, norinco's, and yugo. Romanian are a little cheaper built but it will do the same job that the rest will do and thats fire. Norinco's are my favorite because they use 1.5mm stamped receivers vs the other use 1.0mm receivers.



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i own one just cause i can.

imo its a crude low tolerance gun that gets the job done. dont waste much money on it and screw buying tactical bs for it.

cheap + mags + ammo.
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Since this sounds like the place for noobs to ask AK questions

Does milled or or stamped really make that much differnce with AKs?
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Since this sounds like the place for noobs to ask AK questions

Does milled or or stamped really make that much differnce with AKs?
if you like the rock soild feel of a ar15 then a milled is the way to go, but if you like "cheap fun" gun the get a stamped, my b-i-l has had a few aks and my favorite was a stamped romanian ak. he has a saiga right now and its cool. but he's looking at selling it.
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f-o-m just bought two last week at the show... romanian I believe.
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Where can I got to educate myself on quality of different versions? Where is the best place to buy? Gunbroker.com? Gun Show? Educate me, I'm a novice to AKs and I really want to get one as well as a few other choice pieces before the People's Republic of Obama gets in full swing.

If I were you I'd buy a couple before the next political change over. AKs are great weapons. I've had one for a couple of years, and it eats anything I put in the mag.

They aren't the greatest for accuracy over 300 yards, but for close in work they are the best. I've seen them take chunks out of people at point blank ranges.

Ammo is also cheaper than the AR platform.

I'd also highly suggest a 75 round drum. They make for a lot of fun.....
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Where can I got to educate myself on quality of different versions? Where is the best place to buy? Gunbroker.com? Gun Show? Educate me, I'm a novice to AKs and I really want to get one as well as a few other choice pieces before the People's Republic of Obama gets in full swing.
Al buy decent one, milled is the way to go, as stamped ones quality vary greatly. We went on a hog hunting trip this past spring with a group of friends. One of the guys from Waco had one of his friends AK's. I put that dam thing back together twice as the pins that held the trigger assembly together kept backing out causing a complete failure to fire. The second time I put it back together he put it in a case and left it there until his return to Waco.
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I'm very happy with my Romainian, side folder. Romanian is good for a cheap ($200-400) import.


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I also have a Romanian. It's a .223 and is astoundingly accurate! AL, if you want to shoot it, I let Danny hold it and my Glock while I'm gone. You two can go shoot it up if you want.

For your reasoning on buying the rifle, I think you might be on the right track, but you better huerry. Gun prices could rise with just anticipation of tthe election.
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on the same note... does anyone know where to buy cheap mags for the ak?
i could use more.
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Al buy decent one, milled is the way to go, as stamped ones quality vary greatly. We went on a hog hunting trip this past spring with a group of friends. One of the guys from Waco had one of his friends AK's. I put that dam thing back together twice as the pins that held the trigger assembly together kept backing out causing a complete failure to fire. The second time I put it back together he put it in a case and left it there until his return to Waco.
From what I have read thus far I think a milled receiver is the only way to go. I can see the stamped ones as being easy to produce and cheap but that is what you get, cheap. I'll let you guys know what I get.
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I also have a Romanian. It's a .223 and is astoundingly accurate! AL, if you want to shoot it, I let Danny hold it and my Glock while I'm gone. You two can go shoot it up if you want.

For your reasoning on buying the rifle, I think you might be on the right track, but you better huerry. Gun prices could rise with just anticipation of tthe election.
Why did you get the .223 version? You got an AR too?

Yes, I definitely want to buy before the election gets into full swing.
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Why did you get the .223 version? You got an AR too?

Yes, I definitely want to buy before the election gets into full swing.
I'll have another AR this September. I went down to bare minimum before I left the country. I was going to sell the AK as well until Danny said he'd hold it. The .223 round is going to be easier for me having both an AR and this AK. It's a pretty damned good round too.
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it's just an AK, get a cheap stamped one and enjoy it. If you want to spend all that money and get a milled receiver, than you should be looking at an AR-15.
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it's just an AK, get a cheap stamped one and enjoy it. If you want to spend all that money and get a milled receiver, than you should be looking at an AR-15.
Right. I got mine for $300 with extra mags and ammo.
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it's just an AK, get a cheap stamped one and enjoy it. If you want to spend all that money and get a milled receiver, than you should be looking at an AR-15.
I'll get an AR too. I just decided the AK is going to be the first thing I buy.
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I'll get an AR too. I just decided the AK is going to be the first thing I buy.
get a stamped one and have some fun with it. My russian shit is just for plinking, that's really all I would recommend it for. Even my buddies that are russian collectors get frustrated when an iron sight AR outperforms a fancy scoped ruskie.
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I second the norincos... I have been looking for a good deal on one for a while. Was at the bullet trap in plano last week for some range fun and their used inventory usually had 7 or 8 aks....they Had NONE! Most of the long guns they had were all junk nobody would want.

Saiga also builds great AKs and they also have the AK derived semi auto 12ga. That and the regular AK are on my "must buy" list if I ever find money lying in the streets!



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So if I were contemplating that caliber, and I wanted reliable enough to take hunting but cheap enough I wouldn't care if I dropped it in quicksand and never saw it again, how would these three stack up?

AK
SKS
Mini-30

I like the lines of the ruger but I think they are a little high. Then again I saw an SKS in the standard POS looking condition priced at $425 Maybe that was a fluke? The AK reminds me of an AR too freakin bulky and unweildy for the field.

What are ya'lls thoughts?
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I would buy 10 cheap AK's, bury them in the back yard or other staged places I might need one. I could always run out, dig it up and pretty well know it would fire. forget the mini-30 and SKS and spend the same on TWO AK's!!!



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So if I were contemplating that caliber, and I wanted reliable enough to take hunting but cheap enough I wouldn't care if I dropped it in quicksand and never saw it again, how would these three stack up?

AK
SKS
Mini-30

I like the lines of the ruger but I think they are a little high. Then again I saw an SKS in the standard POS looking condition priced at $425 Maybe that was a fluke? The AK reminds me of an AR too freakin bulky and unweildy for the field.

What are ya'lls thoughts?
I think one of the first questions you should ask is what are you hunting? Small to medium sized game with a 7.62 is probably overkill, and a 5.56 might meet your needs better. If your wanting large sized game and man hunter the 5.56 and the 7.62 will sufice. If your looking for penetration go with the 7.62, if your in close quarters and woried about round penetration then go with the 5.56.

I've been looking at AK pricing online and for built guns prepare to spend $400 or more. Especially if your looking at newer more tacticalized (new word) models
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it's just an AK, get a cheap stamped one and enjoy it. If you want to spend all that money and get a milled receiver, than you should be looking at an AR-15.
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Ammo Depot out in Royce City has them Yugo SKS in variations for around 200.

They are new in cosmoline.

I've seen Norinco SKS for 275$ with milled receiver.

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Tacticalized, I like that!

I was just wanting to stick with one of the big-3 rifle rounds for economy, and a 5.56 is limited while a 7.62N is a little hot in any configuration. I was leaning towards the 7.62x39 because it is almost a 30-30, which is a decent enough choice for an all-around game gun in the lower 48.

I use a handgun mostly, but that comes with some legal hassles, so a hunting rifle would have a place. And I'm a fan of the haevy bullet idea, in general. My other plan would be a lever action, probably in 444, but that has a different set of issues against it.

So I see two votes for the AK on reliability, and one plug for the SKS at a decent price. No one likes the mini-30? I like the profile, but an SKS with a new stock would probably work just as well. Any others?

I'm not shopping, just talking myself into what to put on my list next.
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Are they suitable for deer hunting? Or would I be better off with a bolt action 30-06?
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Are they suitable for deer hunting? Or would I be better off with a bolt action 30-06?
Some states require non semi for deer hunting. Bolt and or lever action. Not 100% sure about Texas though, but if you plan to hunt in different states - it may make sense to just get a bolt/lever action rifle.

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Are they suitable for deer hunting? Or would I be better off with a bolt action 30-06?

Bolt action .270, imo.
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Some states require non semi for deer hunting. Bolt and or lever action. Not 100% sure about Texas though, but if you plan to hunt in different states - it may make sense to just get a bolt/lever action rifle.
pretty sure you can use one in tx but you cant carry more than 5 rounds in the mag/gun. i know you can hog hunt with a ar15(with 5 in the mag)
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heh, I consider a semi for hog hunting a saftey thing. Never been, but pretty sure I would not go without someone having a semi. Deer hunting...probably f'ed anyway if you miss the first shot.

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on the same note... does anyone know where to buy cheap mags for the ak?
i could use more.

Cheaper than Dirt. They have a store in Ft. Worth and they have a website.
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Where is the best place to pick one up cheap locally?

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