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universal 30 carbine

anyone (ie. david) got any info on these. i came into one this weekend and was looking for some info on it.

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I've got one that's post WW2. It was kinda like the AR15 at the time. You could buy them everywhere after the war.

IIRC, the most desirable M1 Carbine was produced by Singer (the sewing machine company) because they made the fewest and they were only made during the war.

The Universal that I have is not true to the wartime M1 Carbine design. I don't know exactly what else is different, but the recoil spring setup has two parallel spring setups on the gas block where the original design only had 1.

I could be wrong, but I seem to remember that was a difference based on the WW2 Army field manual.

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Universal carbines are post war private manufactured commercial carbines. They're not GI guns. My experiences is that they suck and I would definately pass on it.

Singer never made carbines, they made 1911a1s during WW2. Only in the range of about 500 guns.

The rarest of the carbine manufacturers is Irwin Pederson.
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Singer never made carbines, they made 1911a1s during WW2. Only in the range of about 500 guns.
I knew it was one of those, thanks for the correction. I was tired when I made that post.

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Universal carbines are post war private manufactured commercial carbines. They're not GI guns. My experiences is that they suck and I would definately pass on it.
The only issues I've had is a fail to feed, but was corrected by a good cleaning. Mine also does not like the 30 round curved mag for some reason, maybe a weak spring. Works great with the 15 round straight mag.

BTW, if you pass on it, let me know details on it... .30 carbine is cheaper to shoot than .223...

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The magazine catch is not as good as the WWII models, which itself is kind of teh suck, in either configuration. Finding mags that operate well is a challenge. They were designed to be semi-disposable anyhow, and this is a weak point with all M1 carbines.

If you have a tig welder you can beef up the louvres on the mags with bosses and file them square, I have a few that are done. Not really "cost effective" but if you have a hookup it might be worth doing.
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The magazine catch is not as good as the WWII models, which itself is kind of teh suck, in either configuration. Finding mags that operate well is a challenge. They were designed to be semi-disposable anyhow, and this is a weak point with all M1 carbines.
If you have a tig welder you can beef up the louvres on the mags with bosses and file them square, I have a few that are done. Not really "cost effective" but if you have a hookup it might be worth doing.

my father in law gave it to me he said the same things about the magazines. i plan on picking up a couple of new/newer one before i go shooting with it. thanks for all the info gents.

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