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difference between .38 special & .380

will someone tell me the difference between the 2?

i know my dad's S&W .357 revolver can shoot .38's and/or .357's, but that's about all i know
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will someone tell me the difference between the 2?

i know my dad's S&W .357 revolver can shoot .38's and/or .357's, but that's about all i know

.380 is less powerful than .38 special.

.380 has a shorter case than .38 special

.380 has a smaller rim (rimless)and was designed for automatic pistols.
.38 special has a larger rim and was designed for revolvers.

.380 is also known as 9x17 in Europe... or 9mm short.


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.380 is less powerful than .38 special.

.380 has a shorter case than .38 special

.380 has a smaller rim (rimless)and was designed for automatic pistols.
.38 special has a larger rim and was designed for revolvers.


.380 is also known as 9x17 in Europe... or 9mm short.
that's the info i was looking for, thanks!
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A .38 special round has about 50% more mass and more than double the muzzle energy than a .380 round. With a .380 you really need to be a pretty good shot to stop someone but a .38 special anywhere in center mass will usually let someone know you are serious.

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380 Auto aka 9mm Kurz, aka 9mm Browning, aka 380 ACP, aka 9x17.
Semi-auto round for Walther PPK/S, Bersa Thunder 380, CZ 83, Sig P232, Beretta, Colt etc. pocket pistols.
380 has .355 caliber bullets. (also 38 Super, 9mm)

90,95 grain common, 102 remington golden sabres.

.38 Special is a revolver round.
S&W, Taurus, Ruger, Rossi, etc. all make 38 Spcl revolvers.
.38 Special has .357 caliber bullets. (Also 357 Magnum)
125gr, 158gr common bullet weights.
+P available, has SAMMI specification.

There are some other ones: 38 S&W, 38 Auto.

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No 9x25mm Dillon? That shit is brutal!
Yeah, after reading about the shockwave (not the recoil!) from those bullets causing tendinitis in shooters' wrists, I've pretty much decided against that shit.


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I think it would be awesome in a carbine though. Are there 10mm AR's?

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I found it, Tony. Mech Tech makes a carbine conversion unit for 1911's and Glocks in 10mm. Re-barrel FTW.

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380 Auto aka 9mm Kurz, aka 9mm Browning, aka 380 ACP, aka 9x17.
Semi-auto round for Walther PPK/S, Bersa Thunder 380, CZ 83, Sig P232, Beretta, Colt etc. pocket pistols.
380 has .355 caliber bullets. (also 38 Super, 9mm)

90,95 grain common, 102 remington golden sabres.

.38 Special is a revolver round.
S&W, Taurus, Ruger, Rossi, etc. all make 38 Spcl revolvers.
.38 Special has .357 caliber bullets. (Also 357 Magnum)
125gr, 158gr common bullet weights.
+P available, has SAMMI specification.

There are some other ones: 38 S&W, 38 Auto.
It is also a 9x24 in europe.

There was also a short and long 38 colt (which is what the 45acp replaced), and the 38 S&W gained the designation "short" when the 38 S&W long came about. The 38 S&W long was the original 38 special name.

If anyone wonders why a .355-.358 caliber bullet is called a 38, it is because the shell was designed to fit inside a .36 caliber cap and ball revolver cylinder, which is .38 diameter. Why was it called a .36 caliber when it was really .375-..380 inch? Because black powder leaves such a mess of lead and powder that the bullets were made smaller but with a heel so they could be shot from a dirty barrel. The .36 is the measurement of the lands in the barrel.

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Yeah, after reading about the shockwave (not the recoil!) from those bullets causing tendinitis in shooters' wrists, I've pretty much decided against that shit.
That is because they are shooting hundreds of rounds a day.

You know, auto ordnance makes a 10mm version of the tommy gun, with drum magazine and all. I don';t think they are too awfully expensive either, like maybe a grand to 1500.
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Digression: you can get drum mags for 1911 for 70$ from pro Mag. Not sure how they work.

I thought we were talking 38 here?

9x18 is the Makarov. More stout than the 380.

G&A had some reloads for 380 with 115gr bullets. Velocity wasn't bad I thought, but they suggested a lighter bullet.

IMHO, Bersa 380 for 219 is one of the best buys in handguns. Two-tone good looks and excellent reliability. Kel-Tec and Ruger look pretty good. Shot the Bersa and Kel-Tec.

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357/38 Special revolvers.

A model 327 S&W revolver holds 8.
A model 386 S&W can hold 6 or 7.
A model 640 S&W can hold 5.

380 pocket pistols are 6+1, 7+1 usually.
There are some double stack models like Bersa and CZ.

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I thought we were talking 38 here?
My bad, but we still kind of were. 9x25 Dillon is the 10mm version of .357sig.

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