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tell me why i should buy a 10mm instead of a .45

i know you gots one and praise them a lot
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I was persuaded that the .40 S&W and .45 ACP were very, very close in terms of performance, so I decided to get a Glock 22 after I got a Glock 21. Then I discovered the 10mm Auto, which is a .40 S&W with 1/8" longer case (more powder capacity) and is rated for 2,500 more PSI than the .40 S&W (35,000 PSI - same as the .357 Magnum and 9mm Luger; vs. 37,500 PSI); logically, the 10mm will easily surpass the .40 S&W, and if the .40 S&W is roughly equivalent to the .45 ACP, the 10mm must surpass it, too.

It's fun to handload, too.

155 grain XTPs @ 1,450 fps = 720 foot-pounds of energy, versus the Ranger-SXT .45 ACP +P - 230 grains @ 990 fps = 510 foot-pounds of energy. It can compete with factory .357 Magnum loads and is still quite manageable.


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so what's the downside? every gun has a downside.




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Recoil can be tough. The Glock 10mms (20 and 29) are built on larger frames than their 9mms, .40 S&Ws, and .357 Sigs and can be too large for some, although you can get 1911s in 10mm, also. 10mm ammo might be harder to find and maybe more expensive when you do find it(don't know; I load my own), and I think most of it is downloaded or not loaded close to its full potential. There aren't nearly as many weapons chambered for 10mm as 9mm, .40 S&W, .45 ACP, and even .357 Sig.


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Recoil can be tough. The Glock 10mms (20 and 29) are built on larger frames than their 9mms, .40 S&Ws, and .357 Sigs and can be too large for some, although you can get 1911s in 10mm, also. 10mm ammo might be harder to find and maybe more expensive when you do find it(don't know; I load my own), and I think most of it is downloaded or not loaded close to its full potential. There aren't nearly as many weapons chambered for 10mm as 9mm, .40 S&W, .45 ACP, and even .357 Sig.
grove rat i assure you if tonys limp wristed ass can handle the recoil so can you.

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If you plan to reload then the 10 outshines the 40 no question. That's because the 40 is way too sensitive to bullet setback due to so little room in the case.

The 10 will handle 220gr bullets with no danger. I wouldn't even try that in a 40.

Also, if your frame fits a 10mm, it will also fit a 40 & 357s, but seldom the other way around.

The downside I saw was that the brass is a little harder to come by. But I have that issue with everything.
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grove rat i assure you if tonys limp wristed ass can handle the recoil so can you.

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Haha, so true.


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I've loaded many a 40 round with 220 gr bullets. Altough this was my IPSC load for a year or so and my OAL was @ 1.2. There is no loading data for the 40 using 220gr bullets but I assure you it can be done.
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I think Casper was saying that setback affects the round more in a .40 than a 10mm.

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Can't decide if I need to trade the kimber for a 10mm.

made up my mind in classifieds

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Can't decide if I need to trade the kimber for a 10mm.

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Want a good deal on a 10mm? I think that this one looks pretty good! I know it is tempting me....

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Glock 29 10mm with tons of extras! Serial is GGS prefix. Box. unopened packet, test fired case, cleaning rod, brush. G29 is in excellent condition. Minor wear on a few corners but wont even showup in the photo. This is a pretty massive package so please take a look!

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BTW, this is not my gun, I just saw it posted and remembered this post.

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ignore that Ad thats what im going to do if the kimber sells
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grove rat i assure you if tonys limp wristed ass can handle the recoil so can you.

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is anything similar to a .357 magnum?
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ignore that Ad thats what im going to do if the kimber sells
I saw your post over there after I posted here. You're lucky that I don't have the $ or it would be on my hip right now!

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i'm broker too but have the shiny kimber so it made me want it
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Mike, before you go out and pick up a 10mm I suggest you go rent one and fire a few magazines through it before deciding on it or not. Not knocking the 10mm but power numbers are one thing, hitting the target and being comfortable shooting a gun with a particular round are another.

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Mike, before you go out and pick up a 10mm I suggest you go rent one and fire a few magazines through it before deciding on it or not. Not knocking the 10mm but power numbers are one thing, hitting the target and being comfortable shooting a gun with a particular round are another.

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oh i know, i just wanna get these guys going over caliber debates

i have a sig sauer p220 in ghetto lay-a-way(pawn shop) that will be my carry pistol
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oh i know, i just wanna get these guys going over caliber debates

i have a sig sauer p220 in ghetto lay-a-way(pawn shop) that will be my carry pistol
220 isn't to big for you to be carrying (talking about size and weight)?




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220 isn't to big for you to be carrying (talking about size and weight)?
i wear loose and somewhat baggy clothes, i've 'tested' a couple of full frame paddles(glock17 and a 1911) and it was comfortable to me. i do know however it might be different when carrying all the time
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i wear loose and somewhat baggy clothes, i've 'tested' a couple of full frame paddles(glock17 and a 1911) and it was comfortable to me. i do know however it might be different when carrying all the time
A paddle holster (although convenient) would not be my idea for a carry holster. A good Inside the WaistBand holster is what I would suggest as it hides the majority of the gun inside your pants rather than hanging it all outside. Just my $.02.




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but i gotsta to be gangsta and show my piece jose!
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A paddle holster (although convenient) would not be my idea for a carry holster. A good Inside the WaistBand holster is what I would suggest as it hides the majority of the gun inside your pants rather than hanging it all outside. Just my $.02.
I'll second that. I have several OWB holsters, but none of them conceal nearly as well nor as comfortably as my IWB holster.

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