There's one in Fort Worth, Dallas, and in Arlington (off Division) that I know of.
Creepy stuff, lots of money involved.
Creepy stuff, lots of money involved.
I'm not sure I'm understanding what you're saying here. Masons are Christians (at least all the Masons I've met are). Wouldn't all Christians serve the same God? I've been to my Uncles initiation, and to my Grandfathers promotion to Sr. Deacon. The only religious aspect of these that I saw, was when everyone was asked to reciet the Lord's Prayer. Other than that, it wasn't unlike a Boy Scout ceremony, people being awarded various ranks, and medals.Monsoon X said:But in actuality it isn't a good place for a Christian. It teaches that we all serve the same God and Christians know that isn't true. It is very close to being it's own religion.
DW -- Do some research befor emaking claims that Masons are Christians. What a slap in the face. Masons are more closely related to Mormons (another cult), which was founded by joseph smith also a mason. There traditions, the misrepresentation of the word of God, and denying that Christ is the only way to heaven are just 3 of hundreds of reasons these guys are a cult and nooooo good!DarkWolf said:My Grandfather and Uncle are Masons, so let's try not to assume that all Masons are striving for a new world order, and all that hoopla.
It's like any large organization, there are going to be black sheep, those that are different from the normal. Masons have throughout history done a lot of good for mankind. They're involved in many charitable organizations, hospitals, and homeless shelters. It is not a religious order, though it's not inconceivable that some of it's members view it as such. I've met a lot of masons in my life, and all of them are good men, doing good work, and good deeds. Cops, firefighters, doctors. As a whole, they are not involved with politics, or government. There are the crazies, just like in any large organization. You've got whacked out Christian Fundamentalists, or Islamic Fundamentalists. It's expected there's going to be some whacked out Masons. That doesn't represent the majority. It wouldn't be interesting in a "secret society, conspiracty theory" way, if that was the majority.
Jay- You're talking about something that you have no inside information on. I was made to stand in the form of the crucifixtion because that is a Knights Templar sign, since it was started. It's a ritualistic sign and symbol. It is very normal.DarkWolf said:Whatever. Believe whatever floats your boat. If you're going to quote from a biased website, that's your perogative. JC, I don't know why you were made to stand in the form of the crucifixion. All I know is that what you experienced is not normal. This TGaotu crap, who's making this nonsense up? Jahbulon? Out of curiosity, how does "on" translate to Osiris? Bul = Baal? It's a stretch, but I can see it.
Never once have I heard even the slightest reference to any these names. Not once in all my talks with my grandfather, not once in the ceremonies I've attended.
If any of that were true, I don't think it would have taken the church this long to consider it heresy ... and I sure as hell don't think there'd be even ONE contrary vote on the issue.
Sounds like you should speak to same ex-masons as they are the only ones that will disclose the truth. A Mason is obligated not to. Not trying to step on your toes there with your family members being involved, as they might no to much yet. The Masons (again bery closely related to the Mormons) are a cult!Monsoon X said:
Jay- You're talking about something that you have no inside information on. I was made to stand in the form of the crucifixtion because that is a Knights Templar sign, since it was started. It's a ritualistic sign and symbol. It is very normal.
The Great Architect of the Universe is a term that we used every time the Lodge opened. And if you Grandfather was a true Mason he would've have told you the secrets because of the obligation that he took. You won't see the "grips" and signs of a Master Mason in ceremonies Nor will you hear the terminologies. Some of the signs are so subtle you probably wouldn't notice anyway. Heck, I used them to get my overweight luggage on a flight w/o being charged extra. The guy who was at the counter had "light" on his person.
Now I'm not saying that the Masons as individual people are bad it's just that once you really start living a Christian life (a serious one) you realize how blasphemous the order and it's teachings are.
Really Jay, you have NO idea what goes on.
I edited my post. I meant to say that his Grandfather WOULD NOT have told him the secrets of the order because of his obligation and the penalty thereof. (BTW -The signs are symbolic of the penalty of your obligation)speedpro50 said:
Sounds like you should speak to same ex-masons as they are the only ones that will disclose the truth. A Mason is obligated not to. Not trying to step on your toes there with your family members being involved, as they might no to much yet. The Masons (again bery closely related to the Mormons) are a cult!
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