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Finally - WEC and UFC to merge in 2011

Oh yeah, think of the possibility match up in the light weight classes. Aldo, Faber, Penn, Cruz, Edgar, Torres, Cerrone, Florian..

Plus UFC moving into India and China next year. This thing is just expoding everywhere!




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And for those of you who think Joe Rogan is just a announcer...

Fast foward to 2:15..

The Renalto bit is funny if you are familiar with the running joke.



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LMAO...sluts and Nick Diaz. The band is actually pretty damn funny.




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This also looked interesting...

"White confirmed that the winner of the Dec. 16 lightweight title fight between WEC champion Ben Henderson and top contender Anthony Pettis live on VERSUS will take on the winner of the UFC 125 main event title bout between champion Frankie Edgar and Gray Maynard. This upcoming fight will serve as a UFC lightweight title unification bout to be held next year. "
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I'm a little bummed to hear that this will mean less free events on TV, but this merger will do wonders for the depth of the PPVs. Having two more weight classes / belts added to the mix, plus the # of new (to UFC) fighters can only help.
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I'm a little bummed to hear that this will mean less free events on TV, but this merger will do wonders for the depth of the PPVs. Having two more weight classes / belts added to the mix, plus the # of new (to UFC) fighters can only help.
Not true actually, means more free UFC events. Because now they will be on Versus and Spike.

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Not true actually, means more free UFC events. Because now they will be on Versus and Spike.
I'm hoping you're right, I'm just going off what I've read so far. I thought the VS contract was exclusive to the WEC brand - I'm not sure how the merger will affect that, and I'm pretty sure I remember reading that DW wasn't real thrilled with VS.

Either way, 155 just got a whole lot deeper, and having 2 more belts / 6 title defense added to the existing PPVs each year is awesome.

http://sports.yahoo.com/mma/news?slu...ecmerger102810

"The downside for fight fans, at least in the short term, will be a reduction of free fights on television. In 2010, the UFC had two fights on Versus, which will expand to four under a new deal announced Thursday by UFC president Dana White. But the WEC has already had five fights on Versus and still will air cards on the cable network on Nov. 11 from Las Vegas and Dec. 16 from Glendale, Ariz. As a result, that was nine shows, which will be cut to four under the new deal. Unless the UFC adds an additional television deal, those five shows wont be replaced on free television, though White did not seem to mind.

Im not looking at this thing as a negative like, Oh, we lost a couple of fights on Versus, White said. Its a positive. Weve got the UFC on Versus. The last one we did pulled killer numbers. Now that weve added these other two weight classes to the UFC, everything is positive. Im not looking at it like, Oh, we lost two fights. We have to pick them up somewhere else.
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I know nothing about this stuff, but I have to ask the question.

How do you guys keep up with all of the fighters? How do you know who the new up and comers are? Aside from watching the UFC 1000's, what else is on tv? Seems like everytime I read one of these threads there are guys I have never heard of being talked about. It makes it hard for a new fan to follow.
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I'm hoping you're right, I'm just going off what I've read so far. I thought the VS contract was exclusive to the WEC brand - I'm not sure how the merger will affect that, and I'm pretty sure I remember reading that DW wasn't real thrilled with VS.

Either way, 155 just got a whole lot deeper, and having 2 more belts / 6 title defense added to the existing PPVs each year is awesome.

http://sports.yahoo.com/mma/news?slu...ecmerger102810

"The downside for fight fans, at least in the short term, will be a reduction of free fights on television. In 2010, the UFC had two fights on Versus, which will expand to four under a new deal announced Thursday by UFC president Dana White. But the WEC has already had five fights on Versus and still will air cards on the cable network on Nov. 11 from Las Vegas and Dec. 16 from Glendale, Ariz. As a result, that was nine shows, which will be cut to four under the new deal. Unless the UFC adds an additional television deal, those five shows wont be replaced on free television, though White did not seem to mind.

Im not looking at this thing as a negative like, Oh, we lost a couple of fights on Versus, White said. Its a positive. Weve got the UFC on Versus. The last one we did pulled killer numbers. Now that weve added these other two weight classes to the UFC, everything is positive. Im not looking at it like, Oh, we lost two fights. We have to pick them up somewhere else.
Interesting. That completely goes against the other interview he gave awhile back when hinting around about it. Hmmm.

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I know nothing about this stuff, but I have to ask the question.

How do you guys keep up with all of the fighters? How do you know who the new up and comers are? Aside from watching the UFC 1000's, what else is on tv? Seems like everytime I read one of these threads there are guys I have never heard of being talked about. It makes it hard for a new fan to follow.
It's just like anything else really. Watching and attending local small shows and such. Also watching the fight cards from smaller organizations on late night TV, stuff from Japan like K-1, Bellator, KOC, Dream. Reading alot of online site info about the up and comers. Alot of MMA forums such as the Underground have professional fighters posting on them. Sometimes you can be lucky enough to make buddies with a few of them, or really come to hate some of them finding out what they are really like. lol.

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I know nothing about this stuff, but I have to ask the question.

How do you guys keep up with all of the fighters? How do you know who the new up and comers are? Aside from watching the UFC 1000's, what else is on tv?
HDNet shows alot of other fights, they will air the shows from DREAM, K1, and other smaller shows. Also, programs like Inside MMA does recaps of all the recent events, and have fighter commentary. The MMA boards will definitely have threads going about the up and comers to keep an eye on.

MMA is evolving fast, and there is alot of new talent pouring in all the time, so it can be hard to keep up with. Guys that looked like world beaters or were dominant champs a few years ago (faber, machida, penn, hughes) now are not really in the conversation for pound for pound best, and guys alot of people don't know about are taking belts. If you watch alot of fights though you will start to recognize the guys that could turn out to be stars a little easier, it just takes time.
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Interesting. That completely goes against the other interview he gave awhile back when hinting around about it. Hmmm.



It's just like anything else really. Watching and attending local small shows and such. Also watching the fight cards from smaller organizations on late night TV, stuff from Japan like K-1, Bellator, KOC, Dream. Reading alot of online site info about the up and comers. Alot of MMA forums such as the Underground have professional fighters posting on them. Sometimes you can be lucky enough to make buddies with a few of them, or really come to hate some of them finding out what they are really like. lol.
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HDNet shows alot of other fights, they will air the shows from DREAM, K1, and other smaller shows. Also, programs like Inside MMA does recaps of all the recent events, and have fighter commentary. The MMA boards will definitely have threads going about the up and comers to keep an eye on.

MMA is evolving fast, and there is alot of new talent pouring in all the time, so it can be hard to keep up with. Guys that looked like world beaters or were dominant champs a few years ago (faber, machida, penn, hughes) now are not really in the conversation for pound for pound best, and guys alot of people don't know about are taking belts. If you watch alot of fights though you will start to recognize the guys that could turn out to be stars a little easier, it just takes time.
Damn, seems like a lot of work to be a fan. It isn't so cut and dry like football, baseball, or basketball. You have college and NFL football on all the major networks and it is all right there in front of you. I guess the other thing that bothers me is I have no idea of telling which guy is better than another. I know there is technique and all, but the average fan doesn't know all of that.

No matter what, I think it is more exciting than boxing.
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Damn, seems like a lot of work to be a fan. It isn't so cut and dry like football, baseball, or basketball. You have college and NFL football on all the major networks and it is all right there in front of you. I guess the other thing that bothers me is I have no idea of telling which guy is better than another. I know there is technique and all, but the average fan doesn't know all of that.

No matter what, I think it is more exciting than boxing.
That's why there is such intense discussion between the casual fan like you mention referred to as TUF newbs/armchair warriors and the dedicated fan who really does alot of research, reading and usually trains themselves. It really is difficult to get a full grasp of MMA/fighting without doing it yourself knowing what it feels like to be in the moment when stuck in a bad spot.

As for it bothering you knowing who is "better", don't let it get to you. There is no black and white way to predict how a fight will end or how a fighter may do something, because alot of times they don't know themselves, sometimes shit just happens and they react instinctively going against what most people think they will do.

Anything can happen in a fight, a superstud like Anderson Silva can get hit on the button by some no namer he would usually beat 99 times out of 100, or CroCop can pull a submission out of his ass for a win. You just never know. lol.

Boxing as a sport, sucks. It's one small skill in a whole complete arsenal of a real fighter.

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