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Steelers LB Harrison mulling retirement after $75K fine for hit

James Harrison believes the NFL's crackdown on dangerous hits is cramping his style. And, unless Pittsburgh Steelers coach Mike Tomlin can convince him otherwise, the 32-year-old linebacker claimed Tuesday night that he might consider retirement.

Hours after the league fined him $75,000 for his concussion-causing hit on Cleveland Browns wide receiver Mohamed Massaquoi, Harrison appeared on Fox Sports Radio's "Into The Night with Tony Bruno" and told guest host Jody McDonald that his first stop Wednesday morning will be in Tomlin's office.

"I'm going to sit down and have a serious conversation with my coach tomorrow and see if I can actually play by NFL rules and still be effective," Harrison said. "If not, I may have to give up playing football."

Harrison was one of three players punished Tuesday by the NFL for helmet-to-helmet hits. Hee was fined $25,000 more than New England Patriots safety Brandon Meriweather and Atlanta Falcons cornerback Dunta Robinson were because the league considered Harrison a repeat offender. He was fined $5,000 for slamming Tennessee Titans quarterback Vince Young to the turf during the Steelers' Sept. 19 victory.

Harrison, the 2008 Associated Press NFL Defensive Player of the Year and a three-time Pro Bowl pick, rammed headfirst into Massaquoi as the receiver tried to complete a catch during the second quarter. Massaquoi briefly crumpled to the turf but was soon on his feet, although he didn't return to the game.

Earlier in the game, Harrison sidelined Browns wide receiver Joshua Cribbs with a helmet-first hit that caused a concussion. The NFL said Monday that tackle was permissible because Cribbs was a runner on the Wildcat play, and that hit didn't factor into Harrison's fine. He wasn't penalized on either play.

Tomlin publicly backed Harrison on Tuesday morning before the fine was announced, saying the linebacker made "legal hits, not fineable hits." The coach also downplayed Harrison's postgame comments that he tries to hurt, not injure, opponents because it increases the Steelers' chances of winning.

"I didn't see those comments, but I know James," Tomlin said. "James says a lot of things he doesn't necessarily mean. He's a tough talker, like a lot of guys that play the game at this level. If you want to get to know James, catch him on a Tuesday when he's walking through the building with his son. He's a big softie."
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Now Tomlin must talk down Harrison, who sounded frustrated by a punishment that his agent, Bill Parise, called "staggering." Parise said Harrison would appeal the fine.

"I really truly hope it's something that can be done," Harrison told Fox Sports Radio. "But the way that things were being explained to me today and the reasoning for it, I don't feel I can continue to play and be effective and, like I say, not have to worry about injuring someone else or risking injury to myself."

Harrison later added that if a solution can't be reached, "I'm going to have to try and find a way that I may possibly get out of whatever agreement I agreed to with the Steelers."

That agreement is a six-year, $51.175 million contract that he signed last year and contains low base salaries in the early portion. Harrison is making $44,411.76 in base salary per game this season, so the $75,000 fine equates to nearly two checks.

Massaquoi's agent, Brian Ayrault, doesn't believe even that's enough.

"Harrison has made $20 million over the past three years, and they only fined him $75,000?" Ayrault said. "To me, that's not going to be a deterrent. The Browns are probably going to be without a starter this week. I don't think that fine is a deterrent or fair to competitive balance.

The Associated Press contributed to this report.

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With what he's making I doubt he will quite over a $75k fine.

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With what he's making I doubt he will quite over a $75k fine.

If you can't play by the rules, then GTFO.
Quite right.


The rules are changing. Schlereth had a pretty decent rant on sportscenter this morning regarding the hypocrisy of the NFL and their stance on big hits while selling videos of nothing but big hits.

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With what he's making I doubt he will quite over a $75k fine.

If you can't play by the rules, then GTFO.

It's not the $75k that he's quitting over, it's the fact that he will now have to play differently and he doesn't want to change.
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Quite right.


The rules are changing. Schlereth had a pretty decent rant on sportscenter this morning regarding the hypocrisy of the NFL and their stance on big hits while selling videos of nothing but big hits.
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With what he's making I doubt he will quite over a $75k fine.

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He was playing by the rules. He's still being a little girl about it, but the NFL doesn't have any ground to stand on here other than "it looked violent."

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The rules are changing. Schlereth had a pretty decent rant on sportscenter this morning regarding the hypocrisy of the NFL and their stance on big hits while selling videos of nothing but big hits.
The reality is that players are getting faster and stronger every draft. Pre-1984, there was never more than 8 guys on a team, at one time, that weighed 300lbs. In 2006, there were approx. 560 in the NFL. In the next 20 years, will there be 300lb. linebacker's running 4.5 40's? Maybe. Even with a clean hit, the impact can be catastrophic. The players should be grateful the league is doing things to extend career's.

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I hope so... I am SOOOOO sick of hearing him talk about his 13 surgeries every time he is on TV. I got it the first 20 times I heard it!!
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The reality is that players are getting faster and stronger every draft. Pre-1984, there was never more than 8 guys on a team, at one time, that weighed 300lbs. In 2006, there were approx. 560 in the NFL. In the next 20 years, will there be 300lb. linebacker's running 4.5 40's? Maybe. Even with a clean hit, the impact can be catastrophic. The players should be grateful the league is doing things to extend career's.

As a fan, I think it's bullshit. I watch football, in part, due to the violence. I like aggressive playing styles. I like the Roy Williams of old, "Imma knock a mother fucker out". I like big hits. It's part of the attraction to the sport. If they want prolonged careers, perhaps they should look in to accounting, or ballet. Fucking pussies.
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I would be pissed if I was Harrison as well as both hits he laid on Cribbs and Mossaquoi were perfectly within the rules. I hope more people get behind this bullshit, as that is exactly what the NFL is turning into now: bullshit.

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I would be pissed if I was Harrison as well as both hits he laid on Cribbs and Mossaquoi were perfectly within the rules. I hope more people get behind this bullshit, as that is exactly what the NFL is turning into now: bullshit.
I also don't understand why Harrison got slapped with the biggest fine, when Meriweather's hit was clearly intentional, and far more damaging from what I could tell. I guess it's just Goodell's usual gentle stroking of Bob Kraft's cock.
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I also don't understand why Harrison got slapped with the biggest fine, when Meriweather's hit was clearly intentional, and far more damaging from what I could tell.
Merriweather should be sitting out a few games for his hit. I didn't see it until yesterday, but that was clearly 100% intentional. Harrison's hit he got fined for was a straight up hit with the shoulder pads that just rocked the dude's world.

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As a fan, I think it's bullshit. I watch football, in part, due to the violence. I like aggressive playing styles. I like the Roy Williams of old, "Imma knock a mother fucker out". I like big hits. It's part of the attraction to the sport. If they want prolonged careers, perhaps they should look in to accounting, or ballet. Fucking pussies.
It's all about money, brother. Guys like Jack Tatum, Mike Ditka, and Hacksaw Reynolds are gone. Violence isn't "hip" anymore. Those days are gone. Maybe we should go back to the days of no face mask?

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Merriweather should be sitting out a few games for his hit. I didn't see it until yesterday, but that was clearly 100% intentional. Harrison's hit he got fined for was a straight up hit with the shoulder pads that just rocked the dude's world.
Exactly. Looked to me like Harrison hit in the pads, and drove up. Which is EXACTLY what you're taught to do from Pop Warner on.
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It's all about money, brother.
I realize this, but I don't understand how changing rules on helmet to helmet hits is going to gain them any more money. In fact, I see it losing more money than anything. It is what it is. People like the NFL because of the rugged, raw violence. They go changing what attracts people to the sport, and they are going to lose fan base, and in turn lose revenue. The douchebag on ESPN has a great point. They are profiting off the violence of the league, and now they want to change the rules midstream. Fuck that.



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Football is a violent sport period , the NFL is going soft.

Not intentional after the whistle blow hits are due for a fine.. but you honestly cant predict where a guys helment will be when he's running a route or trying to doge other players while tryin to pass/run.

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The fact is the Nfl is turning into carebears. I watch for that dreadful hit. That hit on the QB that was taken away. Thats entertainment. I have no sympathy for anyone who is making millions getting hit. Its what used to be part of the game, now, it might as well be flag football. I don't watch much anymore. I have gotten more into hockey and basketball.

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Just got this text: "Following a morning meeting between James Harrison and Mike Tomlin, Harrison was excused from Wednesday's meetings and practice."

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Football is a violent sport period , the NFL is going soft.

Not intentional after the whistle blow hits are due for a fine.. but you honestly cant predict where a guys helment will be when he's running a route or trying to doge other players while tryin to pass/run.
Exactly, if anyone has ever even played football at the highschool level you know that its hard to control if you helmet to helmet anyone. Everything happens so fast. The excessive celebration penatly is also a joke. Fans loved that and they took it away.... Why???

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not my fault Desean Jackson weighs 160lbs and got leveled by a shoulder pad.

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not my fault desean jackson weighs 160lbs and got leveled by a shoulder pad.
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I dont have a problem with the Jackson hit cause it happen so fast that I dont think Robinson could've avoid the hit. Both of those guys were closing on each other fast. The Merryweather hit I do have a problem with. He clearly went for the head and that where I think the line needs to be drawn. Some of these plays are unavoidable cause these are 2 guys and if one makes a little move then helmet to helmet contact will happen.

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if the NFL really cared, they would just replace the exterior helmet shells with a slightly more forgiving material.

hell, schutt made a safer helmet (it's still a hard shell but has better internal components).
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