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Cowboys lets play the "blame game"

What is the Effin problem when you have all of the bad ass players?

Jason G. is putting up numbers!
O-line is getting a shitton of penalties!
Romo has his occasional f-up!
D- lets a lot of shit slide


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or did i answer my question in my post... =(

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or did i answer my question in my post... =(
You left out Jerry Jones...
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Actually it's steve(JKD) fault cause for some reason this year he is cheering for the cowboys.

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There are multiple areas that need to be addressed. That said, you have to have a coach('s) in position to actual address these issues like a man amongst men and if they don't perform, pull them, and give someone else a shot to make something happen. The same old song and dance just doesn't work. I think Einstein said it best, "The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results".
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People who throw that under the bus IMO are just idiots. This isn't a coaching problem. The penalties are the idiot players fault. Mike jenkins gets alot of costly penalties. That is not wade phillips fault. Romo throwning interceptions... Again not wades fault. Dallas is still a plagued penalty team.

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What do you expect with a bunch of undisciplined millionaires? It is like there is no accountability for their actions. It is almost like the good plays they do make are based on their talent getting them through the play. Instead of the correct plays being called at the correct time.

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why has yalls worst receiver now become your best receiver? contract year?

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why has yalls worst receiver now become your best receiver? contract year?

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Sure they are! They're doing pretty well for spotting the other team 10-14 points every game.
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why has yalls worst receiver now become your best receiver? contract year?

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No his contract is still good for another couple years. I think he finally got into real playing shape. He also got out of the loser mentality that playing for Detroit put him in.

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People who throw that under the bus IMO are just idiots. This isn't a coaching problem. The penalties are the idiot players fault. Mike jenkins gets alot of costly penalties. That is not wade phillips fault. Romo throwning interceptions... Again not wades fault. Dallas is still a plagued penalty team.
I think it IS a coaching problem... when kids act up, are annoying little brats, etc... who is to blame? The kids or the parents?

The Head Coach is the parent of these "cowBOYS" he is ultimately responsible for what gets put on the field. I can promise you that none of Jimmy's or Parcell's teams were this undisciplined. Wade is a great D-Coorinator, but he lacks the respect and the discipline to straighten out this group. Discipline has to come from the coaching staff, they have to hold these players accountable for their mistakes.

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I think it IS a coaching problem... when kids act up, are annoying little brats, etc... who is to blame? The kids or the parents?

The Head Coach is the parent of these "cowBOYS" he is ultimately responsible for what gets put on the field. I can promise you that none of Jimmy's or Parcell's teams were this undisciplined. Wade is a great D-Coorinator, but he lacks the respect and the discipline to straighten out this group. Discipline has to come from the coaching staff, they have to hold these players accountable for their mistakes.
Bullshit on your Parcells comment. Do your research.
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They lose with 10 penaltys for +100 yards and Eli signs the wall again. It has to be Wades fault no accountablility for the fuckups on the field. Already 40+ penaltys on the year!!?? Fucking really!??

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Bullshit on your Parcells comment. Do your research.
He might have had a few undisciplined players, but he didn't have teams that comitted 10+ penalties every game.

There will always be players who are prone to commit penalties (for example flozell) but when the entire team is comitting bone headed mistakes, it falls on the feet of the head honcho.

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He might have had a few undisciplined players, but he didn't have teams that comitted 10+ penalties every game.

There will always be players who are prone to commit penalties (for example flozell) but when the entire team is comitting bone headed mistakes, it falls on the feet of the head honcho.
The entire Dallas O Line has always been one of the most penalized offensive lines in the league, ever since it was assembled, back with Parcells. They flashed a stat up. Cowboys averaging 9.8 penalties a game this year. Up from 6.9 (or something close to that) in Parcells last year here (2006). I wish they would have shown 2005 and 2004, but they didn't.



I do think Romo is part of the problem, but he is very serviceable and puts up stellar numbers usually. I think Steve Young hit the nail on the head during pre-game. You have to put the team on your back and carry them, and he hasn't done that yet this season. Instead of offering excuses on this pick, or that pick, don't make excuses and say "Guys, it's my fault." Now, all of that said, I do think Romo is a leader. I think as with anything, he could use improvement. As proof, refer to last night's game. That entire team laid down when Romo went down. Offense, defense, and special teams all gave the fuck up. If that isn't proof that Romo does lead (though he could always do a better job), I don't know what is.


And as I've been screaming all season, turnover battle and penalties kill them every time. Offensive play calling is fucking horrific. It's like something out of a bad movie. 2 yard bubble screen on 3rd and 7? Has that play gained positive yardage yet this year? Halfback draw from the gun on 3rd and long, when you're down by 18? Brilliant play calling, Jason Garrett. Just fucking brilliant.
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I wish wade had some kind of fire left in him instead of acting like he is lost all the damn time.Hell the only coach that shows that he has any fight left in him is I think he is the specail teams coach I think his name is Dave Campo, sorry not a cowboys fan
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Actually it's steve(JKD) fault cause for some reason this year he is cheering for the cowboys.
Ain't that a bitch.. lol.



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It's the teams fault... That's where the blame is, enough said.

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thank you I seen him last night and I thought the guy was going to put his foot up someones ass, thats the key to this team is lack of intensity and leadership
Careful what you ask for. Campo has been HC of this team before. They were worse then, than they are now.
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you mean they have been worse than this before? WOW
Well, they went 5-11 in all three years as HC. His first season as HC was Aikman's last year to play. Then began the Quincy Carter era.
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from looking at their schedule I dont see them winning more than 5 games this season
I think I might have called them winning somewhere between 3-5 in earlier threads LOL guess I might be right.

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from looking at their schedule I dont see them winning more than 5 games this season
The only way I see them winning anything, is if they bench Kitna and play McGee instead.


Campo took a really, really bad team to 5-11. There was a severe lack of talent during those years. They had nobody. The Cowboys have a TON of playmakers. This team is a SOLID coaching staff away from being really good. Whoever comes in here after this season, has a hell of a lot more to work with than Campo did is all I'm saying.

When your offense revolves around Joey Galloway, Antonio Bryant, and Quincy Carter/Ryan Leaf/Clint Stoerner, etc, you're fucked and you know it.

You know damn well Gruden is sitting in that booth last night saying "Are you fucking kidding me?". He'd kill to walk in to a situation like this. The pieces, for the most part, are there. They obviously need to get younger on the O line, and they desperately need a ball hawking difference maker safety. But other than that, they are pretty solid. They need direction, and as you said, intensity. Some accountability needs to be worked in as well.
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Listening to Hitzges. Wow, he is going ballistic. Really pissed at the Cowboys D for laying down after Romo went down.
Norm is ranting and raving as well. Rightfully so.
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The entire Dallas O Line has always been one of the most penalized offensive lines in the league, ever since it was assembled, back with Parcells. They flashed a stat up. Cowboys averaging 9.8 penalties a game this year. Up from 6.9 (or something close to that) in Parcells last year here (2006). I wish they would have shown 2005 and 2004, but they didn't.



I do think Romo is part of the problem, but he is very serviceable and puts up stellar numbers usually. I think Steve Young hit the nail on the head during pre-game. You have to put the team on your back and carry them, and he hasn't done that yet this season. Instead of offering excuses on this pick, or that pick, don't make excuses and say "Guys, it's my fault." Now, all of that said, I do think Romo is a leader. I think as with anything, he could use improvement. As proof, refer to last night's game. That entire team laid down when Romo went down. Offense, defense, and special teams all gave the fuck up. If that isn't proof that Romo does lead (though he could always do a better job), I don't know what is.


And as I've been screaming all season, turnover battle and penalties kill them every time. Offensive play calling is fucking horrific. It's like something out of a bad movie. 2 yard bubble screen on 3rd and 7? Has that play gained positive yardage yet this year? Halfback draw from the gun on 3rd and long, when you're down by 18? Brilliant play calling, Jason Garrett. Just fucking brilliant.


As a Longhorn fan, i'm used to seeing this
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As a Longhorn fan, i'm used to seeing this
As a Cowboy fan, I've been seeing it since about 4 weeks in to the 2007 season. I'm not jumping on, or off any bandwagons. Garrett has got to go, and I've been screaming the same since he got here.
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Well at least Dallas coaching staff isn't slowly tearing apart the team along with bad play calling.... Hmmmm Denver on the other hand. LOL

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Well at least Dallas coaching staff isn't slowly tearing apart the team along with bad play calling....
Good thing you're paying attention.
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Good thing you're paying attention.
What talent have you guys got rid of aside from Terrel Owens? Haven't paid much attention.



Wonder whos play calling is worse.... Denver or Dallas at the moment LOL!

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What talent have you guys got rid of aside from Terrel Owens? Haven't paid much attention.



Wonder whos play calling is worse.... Denver or Dallas at the moment LOL!

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I said to my friends that for Dallas to have a chance in this game, they had to do 2 things well.
#1 The Dallas Offensive Line had to block the Giants front 4 and also pickup the blitz. Obviously they didn't do that, just ask Romo.

#2 They had to cover the Giants WR's, expecially in the Red Zone. Nicks is a touchdown machine in that area. Last Night Nicks had 2 TD's, and I think Steve Smith and Mario Manningham's TD's were also in the Red Zone. The first 3 TD's scored by the Giants were on one on one coverage by Dallas

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Flozell Adams, Greg Ellis (2 yrs ago), Carpenter, Anderson, etc.
I did say talented.... Those names don't seem near as big as what Denver is getting rid of right now.


Peyton Hillis is doing the damn thing for the Cleveland Browns right now.

Brandon Marshall has opened up Miami's pass game tremendously with Devon Bess.

Jay Cutler ehhhh that's a touchy subject, LOL.

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No. You said talent, not talented. You didn't say good talent, or bad talent.
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No. You said talent, not talented. You didn't say good talent, or bad talent.
lmfao.... I stand corrected.

Now how about talented players Dallas has got rid of in the past 2 seasons.....

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lmfao.... I stand corrected.

Now how about talented players Dallas has got rid of in the past 2 seasons.....
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Patrick Crayton
Nick Folk
lol, really, they were talented when they were young but age has caught up to them.
Anthony Henry, got cut, always was getting burned.
Greg Ellis is not playing anymore, never was the same after his achillis got blown out.
Patrick Crayton is at SD still dropping balls.
Only Nick Folk is doin OK at the Jets but he couldn't hit the side of a barn while here.
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