Originally Posted by ThreeFingerPete
Bullshit Steve. That fight was boring as fuck.
Mirko throws feints and circles to the right
Mir comes in with a combo
Mirko shakes him off
Mir presses him to the cage
Both do nothing for 30-40 seconds, with the occasional knee
Herb separates them
FOR 15 MINUTES!
Fair weather fan? Bitch please, you know better than that. These guys are being paid to fight, and both of them have too much talent and ability to stand there and hug up against the cage without throwing anything for the whole fight.
And you're wrong Steve. I personally would never feel great about winning a fight by decision, or a match on points.
You're leaving out WHY it was that way. If you were in either of their spots you would have played it the same way when you career and so much money on the line.
Stand toe to toe with CroCop? Fuck no.
Let Mir take you down? Fuck no.
You're looking at the situation like a casual fan, rather than a fighters perspective. No fighter wants to win via points/judge's decision. It's a fighters nature to win in a dominant fashion leaving no questions. But thats not always possible and have the outcome in your favor.
I disagree with you on Lesnar's chin he took some big shots from Carwin and maintained, shots that no one else has been able to take. I was rooting for Carwin and when I saw that he couldn't finish it with G-N-P I knew he was in trouble. But who knows, Mir has made a lot of money snapping guys arms off. Like you said if he can compete in the clinch and not get busted up with dirty boxing there's always the chance that he could pull a submission.
My gut tells me we'll never see Mir beat either one of them (again).
If you rewatch the slow motion replays you can see that Carwin only hit Lesnar just a couple of times solid with all those punches he through which gave Lesnar time to recover. Carwin has a thread on the UG where he discusses the fight and realizes he lost that fight rather than Lesnar winning it. He got excited and just started swinging rather than picking his shots and just exhausted himself.
I know alot of people doubt Mir for alot of reasons, be it personal or just no faith in his skills. But we have all learned over the years is that you can never count out a good submission guy. The last Silva/Sonnen fight is the perfect example of it.