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So what was everybodies opinion on the opener? I missed the first quarter but watched the rest. They looked.......ok. I'd give them a "C." They definitely need to work on Red Zone offense. Announcers were praising Tre Newton, but I'm still not convinced he can carry the teams run game. Gibert played about as well as I thought he would. He doesn't have the arm or mobility McCoy did, but I think he'll get better. Thank God for Will Muschamp is really all I can say.

I guess this season will be a little more exciting than last since the games will most likely be a lot closer in score. Can't wait to see how things turn out for the Horns.
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So what was everybodies opinion on the opener? I missed the first quarter but watched the rest. They looked.......ok. I'd give them a "C." They definitely need to work on Red Zone offense. Announcers were praising Tre Newton, but I'm still not convinced he can carry the teams run game. Gibert played about as well as I thought he would. He doesn't have the arm or mobility McCoy did, but I think he'll get better. Thank God for Will Muschamp is really all I can say.

I guess this season will be a little more exciting than last since the games will most likely be a lot closer in score. Can't wait to see how things turn out for the Horns.


Doesn't have the arm Colt did? lmao You're joking right? He underthrew some passes today and should've had a TD pass if Williams would've stayed on his damn feet (i'm just glad he caught the damn ball). But his arm is just fine,after all, this was his first start. You'll start seeing the deep ball around the 3rd to 4th game

Today was very very bland. I guess Davis was bound and determined to run the ball. And by god that's what they did, 3 yards at a time lol

Defense played good once Muschamp figured out what Rice was going to do. I hate that Rice got two cheap TD's. Vaccarro needs to start and play the whole game. And i noticed that Ch. Brown left off where he did last year, getting burned deep.


I'll think we'll see about the same next weekend too. The coaches won't show much untill the Tech game
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Doesn't have the arm Colt did? lmao You're joking right? He underthrew some passes today and should've had a TD pass if Williams would've stayed on his damn feet (i'm just glad he caught the damn ball). But his arm is just fine,after all, this was his first start. You'll start seeing the deep ball around the 3rd to 4th game

Today was very very bland. I guess Davis was bound and determined to run the ball. And by god that's what they did, 3 yards at a time lol

Defense played good once Muschamp figured out what Rice was going to do. I hate that Rice got two cheap TD's. Vaccarro needs to start and play the whole game. And i noticed that Ch. Brown left off where he did last year, getting burned deep.


I'll think we'll see about the same next weekend too. The coaches won't show much untill the Tech game
Gilbert defnitely did not show the zip that McCoy could put on the ball. Given, he wasn't exactly given a whole lot of good chances. I wasn't talking about the deep ball.

Like Mac Brown said, two missed field goals, and two dropped interceptions for TD's. The game should've been more one-sided. Like I said though, first game of the season. Can't wait to see what they bring over the next few weeks.
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Gilbert defnitely did not show the zip that McCoy could put on the ball. Given, he wasn't exactly given a whole lot of good chances. I wasn't talking about the deep ball.

Like Mac Brown said, two missed field goals, and two dropped interceptions for TD's. The game should've been more one-sided. Like I said though, first game of the season. Can't wait to see what they bring over the next few weeks.
It was "OK". Gilbert was "OK", but this was Rice, and the running game Mack insists' on having, is really lacking. I think it shows a lack of confidence in Gilbert.

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It was "OK". Gilbert was "OK", but this was Rice, and the running game Mack insists' on having, is really lacking. I think it shows a lack of confidence in Gilbert.
Definitely. I think that's the problem. It was definitely the problem during the bowl game last year. If they never let him get used to throwing in game situations, he'll never gain the confidence that he needs to lead this team. I think that seeing what Shipley has done in the NFL preseason really let me know what UT lost. A receiver that can easily turn a 5 yard catch into a big gain/touchdown.
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Definitely. I think that's the problem. It was definitely the problem during the bowl game last year. If they never let him get used to throwing in game situations, he'll never gain the confidence that he needs to lead this team. I think that seeing what Shipley has done in the NFL preseason really let me know what UT lost. A receiver that can easily turn a 5 yard catch into a big gain/touchdown.
Dead-nuts right on Shipley. The punt returns for UT just turned to shit...

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Y'all don't feel too bad. Jones has something like a 30% completion rating right now. If it weren't for Broyles and Murray, OU would be getting the shit kicked out of them right now.
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Y'all don't feel too bad. Jones has something like a 30% completion rating right now. If it weren't for Broyles and Murray, OU would be getting the shit kicked out of them right now.
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Yep. I predicted 8-4, I just never thought Utah St might be one of the 4.
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Yep. I predicted 8-4, I just never thought Utah St might be one of the 4.
It could be worse...did you see what J'ville State did to Ole Miss? Holy shit!

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It was "OK". Gilbert was "OK", but this was Rice, and the running game Mack insists' on having, is really lacking. I think it shows a lack of confidence in Gilbert.


Lack of confidence in Gilbert? Or lack of confidence in the oline giving Gilbert time? I didn't like the lack of push the Oline got on some of the running plays. They gave him OK time back when he did throw the ball. I want to see the TE more or any. Especially on the play action passes. I don't know why Davis won't call a fucking bootleg when they're inside the 5

I wonder how long it'll be before they say to hell with this running shit and go back to the spread? Hopefully, not before it's too late
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A receiver that can easily turn a 5 yard catch into a big gain/touchdown.


That would be Goodwin this year. But they have to throw to him more than two times to makes this happen


It could also be D.J. Monroe or DeSean Hales, but they have to actually get on the field for this to happen




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Dead-nuts right on Shipley. The punt returns for UT just turned to shit...
what? I thought shipley was only ok, and it was all about quan cosby or whatever his name was....lol.

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what? I thought shipley was only ok, and it was all about quan cosby or whatever his name was....lol.
Shipley was a huge punt returner AND receiver. He will be missed in BOTH positions.

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Lack of confidence in Gilbert? Or lack of confidence in the oline giving Gilbert time? I didn't like the lack of push the Oline got on some of the running plays. They gave him OK time back when he did throw the ball. I want to see the TE more or any. Especially on the play action passes. I don't know why Davis won't call a fucking bootleg when they're inside the 5

I wonder how long it'll be before they say to hell with this running shit and go back to the spread? Hopefully, not before it's too late
Lack of confidence in both. You may love Gilbert, but he doesn't have the wheels or evasiveness of McCoy. I think the reason Brown is insisting on "manufacturing" a running game is he realizes this. I think Gilbert will be fine, if they don't rely on him for every damn yard of offense they get.
Almost every play that Johnson ran in, seemed to develop really slowly. No one on that entire team has run that offense before, including linemen who aren't even used to run-blocking.

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I wouldn't mind seeing Goodwin back there returning punts
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From some of the decisions I saw yesterday, Mack Brown HIMSELF might be an improvement.

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Lack of confidence in both. You may love Gilbert, but he doesn't have the wheels or evasiveness of McCoy. I think the reason Brown is insisting on "manufacturing" a running game is he realizes this. I think Gilbert will be fine, if they don't rely on him for every damn yard of offense they get.
Almost every play that Johnson ran in, seemed to develop really slowly. No one on that entire team has run that offense before, including linemen who aren't even used to run-blocking.


They're also making Gilbert do something he has never done before being under center. Which i don't understand because he's a spread offense QB. He CAN run, maybe not as good as Colt or Vince, but not many can.

I remember the first time i saw him on TV. I kept thinking is this the guy everybody is talking about? Because all he was doing was running the damn ball lol The announcers were like "we promise you, he will throw the ball folks"
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from some of the decisions i saw yesterday, mack brown himself might be an improvement.


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They're also making Gilbert do something he has never done before being under center. Which i don't understand because he's a spread offense QB. He CAN run, maybe not as good as Colt or Vince, but not many can.

I remember the first time i saw him on TV. I kept thinking is this the guy everybody is talking about? Because all he was doing was running the damn ball lol The announcers were like "we promise you, he will throw the ball folks"
He'll be fine. They have a lot of other issues to worry about, and he's the least of them, as far as I'm concerned.

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He'll be fine. They have a lot of other issues to worry about, and he's the least of them, as far as I'm concerned.

I would put the O-line at priority #1. They block better, the running backs and Gilbert look better.

#2 would be to keep Ch. Brown off the damn field.



I did enjoy watching the freshman like Jeffcoat and Wilson play and actually make an impact
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I would put the O-line at priority #1. They block better, the running backs and Gilbert look better.

#2 would be to keep Ch. Brown off the damn field.



I did enjoy watching the freshman like Jeffcoat and Wilson play and actually make an impact
Jeffcoat could well be a frigging wrecking ball! Put him in on passing downs and give him one mission...kill the QB.

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Jeffcoat could well be a frigging wrecking ball! Put him in on passing downs and give him one mission...kill the QB.

Just a note: my daughter has 2 marketing courses with Sam Acho, and says he's about as smart as they get. Hell, he's graduating early and playing big-time football.

Yeah, i've always heard he was really smart.

Thought i heard them say something like Fozzy has already graduated and is working on his graduate degree. Must be nice
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I think you guys are reading too far into the GG situation. Yeah, he needs more time under center to get more comfortable, but that's secondary to the running game. You have to ask yourself which dimension of the game needs more improvement right now, GG, or the running game. It's definitely the running game, and that just affords GG more opportunities under center without many chances at a big mistake. As UT fans we've gotten spoiled with our last few QBs, so quit expecting GG to be McCoy, because it's not very likely. I think he'll be as good as Major Applewhite, but not as good as the last two.

That's how I saw the game...focusing on the run to try and iron out some spots and shake it all out, knowing full well that our passing game can carry us if the game was close. I wasn't encouraged by the run game at all.
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Jeffcoat could well be a frigging wrecking ball! Put him in on passing downs and give him one mission...kill the QB.

Just a note: my daughter has 2 marketing courses with Sam Acho, and says he's about as smart as they get. Hell, he's graduating early and playing big-time football.
Sam Acho is insanely intelligent. Trust me on that one. I will compare my credentials with anyone in the world, but he's the type of guy I look at and say, "How the fuck do they make guys that smart?"
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I think you guys are reading too far into the GG situation. Yeah, he needs more time under center to get more comfortable, but that's secondary to the running game. You have to ask yourself which dimension of the game needs more improvement right now, GG, or the running game. It's definitely the running game, and that just affords GG more opportunities under center without many chances at a big mistake. As UT fans we've gotten spoiled with our last few QBs, so quit expecting GG to be McCoy, because it's not very likely. I think he'll be as good as Major Applewhite, but not as good as the last two.

That's how I saw the game...focusing on the run to try and iron out some spots and shake it all out, knowing full well that our passing game can carry us if the game was close. I wasn't encouraged by the run game at all.
If you read my posts', you'll know I'm not expecting GG to be McCoy, as that's been my whole point. Will he be "fine"? Sure.

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I still think Texas will go 11-1 or 10-2 this year. They won't beat people like they did in the past but muschamps defense will keep them in every game, that's for sure.

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If you read my posts', you'll know I'm not expecting GG to be McCoy, as that's been my whole point. Will he be "fine"? Sure.
gotcha, I just saw your last post. I apologize for the knee-jerk reaction, it just seems like most Longhorn fans that are being vocal are all gloom & doom. Call me optimistic, but I have a calm assurance (I know that isn't the right verbiage) about this season. I just don't feel like they're in trouble and it will all pan out. I guess we'll find out soon enough if that's some sort of arrogance or complacency talking. Let me know if you make it down for any games, I should be down for a few
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41-24 Texas.

EDIT: 1st quarter is over and if they keep giving it to Tre Newton the 'horns will be lucky to hit 20. The kid is a bust. I wonder how much Nate is donating to UT to keep his kid on the team?

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That was a crazy run by Whittaker.
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Who would've thought? Take Newton out and the offense scores two TD's in less than two minutes. Whittakers run was great. Newton would've gone down on the first hit.
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This game has been painful for me to watch. HUGE penalties by both offense and defense for UT. Gilbert looks very average (and I'm being nice). I know Mack said he was going to keep it "vanilla", but damn.

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Next saturday I will have my popcorn ready. I am thinking that UT runs into a wall next week in Lubbock.
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Next saturday I will have my popcorn ready. I am thinking that UT runs into a wall next week in Lubbock.
Tech ain't no 'Bama, LOL. It will be T'ville's first test against a good defense. Ut's offense is "OK", but the defense is nasty.

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Tech ain't no 'Bama, LOL. It will be T'ville's first test against a good defense. Ut's offense is "OK", but the defense is nasty.
It won't be TTubs D that will be the "wall" as he had to scramble to save what was left of his first recruiting class. The "wall" will be Leach's offensive weapons that are still there.
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It won't be TTubs D that will be the "wall" as he had to scramble to save what was left of his first recruiting class. The "wall" will be Leach's offensive weapons that are still there.
So they will just walk through the UT "D", huh? Good luck with all that. It will be fun to watch.

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41-24 Texas.

EDIT: 1st quarter is over and if they keep giving it to Tre Newton the 'horns will be lucky to hit 20. The kid is a bust. I wonder how much Nate is donating to UT to keep his kid on the team?

Dude, give it up. First Gilbert doesn't have an arm. Now Newton can't run. What else are you going to bitch about? You SHOULD be bitching about Chykie Brown lol
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It won't be TTubs D that will be the "wall" as he had to scramble to save what was left of his first recruiting class. The "wall" will be Leach's offensive weapons that are still there.

You mean those same weapons that barely beat SMU?? Oh, you ment THAT wall
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This game has been painful for me to watch. HUGE penalties by both offense and defense for UT. Gilbert looks very average (and I'm being nice). I know Mack said he was going to keep it "vanilla", but damn.


He would look a lot better if the receivers would catch the god damn football. Perfectly thrown ball to Goodwin should've been 6. Then the one that White DID catch in bounds. I still say they need to let GG run the damn ball.

Until they go back to more of the spread (which they did a bit of last night), the score isn't going to be like the last two years. I think that's what a bunch of people are expecting still. They're going to be grinding it out all year if they keep this offense the same.


BUT, let's talk positive, how about the freshman Mike Davis? I like how Fozzy was running hard. Now let's hope he just stays healthy all season *fingers crossed*
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Dude, give it up. First Gilbert doesn't have an arm. Now Newton can't run. What else are you going to bitch about? You SHOULD be bitching about Chykie Brown lol
Give it up? Both of those observations were apparent against Wyoming. Newton didn't do anything, and Gilbert did ok at best. He did have one awesome dropped pass downfield but he also made a lot of bad passes to open receivers. I'm sure he'll get better, but as of now, he's only ok.

Newton has a total of 84 yards for the season with 26 carries. He has the least amount of yards for Texas and the most attempts.
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Give it up? Both of those observations were apparent against Wyoming. Newton didn't do anything, and Gilbert did ok at best. He did have one awesome dropped pass downfield but he also made a lot of bad passes to open receivers. I'm sure he'll get better, but as of now, he's only ok.

Newton has a total of 84 yards for the season with 26 carries. He has the least amount of yards for Texas and the most attempts.
Damn man can we at least get half way through the season until you say a player is ok or a great player. What I can remember didn't Gilbert come into the national championship and almost come back to beat bama on national TV. I don't think a "ok" QB can do that.

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Give it up? Both of those observations were apparent against Wyoming. Newton didn't do anything, and Gilbert did ok at best. He did have one awesome dropped pass downfield but he also made a lot of bad passes to open receivers. I'm sure he'll get better, but as of now, he's only ok.

Newton has a total of 84 yards for the season with 26 carries. He has the least amount of yards for Texas and the most attempts.

You talk like he's some bust. He is what he is, an average running back that does not turn the ball over. And the latter is what Mack likes best.

Last night was the Fozzy we've been waiting to see for the past three years. Let's hope he can keep that up. Like it or not, we're going to see all 3 get carries all year.

Speaking of running backs, did you see Malcom Brown's stats for friday night?
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He would look a lot better if the receivers would catch the god damn football. Perfectly thrown ball to Goodwin should've been 6. Then the one that White DID catch in bounds. I still say they need to let GG run the damn ball.

Until they go back to more of the spread (which they did a bit of last night), the score isn't going to be like the last two years. I think that's what a bunch of people are expecting still. They're going to be grinding it out all year if they keep this offense the same.


BUT, let's talk positive, how about the freshman Mike Davis? I like how Fozzy was running hard. Now let's hope he just stays healthy all season *fingers crossed*
One big ball was dropped, but I was a little more concerned about some throws that sacrificed some receivers' bodies. Those few, high, off-balanced throws, were a little concerning. He did have a nice 15 yard scramble (that I read won't be happening often).

Fozzy was brilliant, enough so that I didn't care if Newton played or not, and Davis surprised everyone including the staff. The kid is smallish, but can obviously play. One of my big concerns was losing that bunch of receiver's they had, but they may just be fine. Punt/kick-off returns looked better than last week, too. They will start to gel this week, and should drop Tech like a bad habit.
Jeffcoat will be an animal this season (even as a true freshman). He and Acho would make damn good book-ends, a la Harvey Martin/Ed Jones from the '70's.

My daughter sent some pics of the stadium during the game, and they are amazing. 100k+ in the place, and she said it was ROCKIN'!

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One big ball was dropped, but I was a little more concerned about some throws that sacrificed some receivers' bodies. Those few, high, off-balanced throws, were a little concerning. He did have a nice 15 yard scramble (that I read won't be happening often).

Fozzy was brilliant, enough so that I didn't care if Newton played or not, and Davis surprised everyone including the staff. The kid is smallish, but can obviously play. One of my big concerns was losing that bunch of receiver's they had, but they may just be fine. Punt/kick-off returns looked better than last week, too. They will start to gel this week, and should drop Tech like a bad habit.
Jeffcoat will be an animal this season (even as a true freshman). He and Acho would make damn good book-ends, a la Harvey Martin/Ed Jones from the '70's.

My daughter sent some pics of the stadium during the game, and they are amazing. 100k+ in the place, and she said it was ROCKIN'!

I remember ONE throw to Kirkendall that was too high. Their could've been more, i was actually drinking during the game. Once he relaxes out on the field and quits trying to force things, he'll come around.

The DLine is playing a ton better than what was expected out of them. I agree, Jeffcoat will be a STUD very soon
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You mean those same weapons that barely beat SMU?? Oh, you ment THAT wall
Just like Texas lit up Rice right? The same Rice team that came close to getting beat by UNT.
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I have to admit that video was pretty damned funny. Both teddy bears are wrong about the hot chick thing though. Texas State by far has the hottest girls in the state.
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just like texas lit up rice right? The same rice team that came close to getting beat by unt.


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Good god this game is hard to watch. UT's O-line is killing them. They're up by 10 now but still. Texas vs Tech games are always fun/hard to watch.
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