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i canít for the life of me understand why the rangers keep giving the sorry ass the chance to come back up to the majors. His batting sucks worse than Jordanís so what is it that keeps bringing him up? i know he was killing it in the minors but its obvious that he doesnít have what it takes to be in the Majors. Anyone feel like they can explain this to me??

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i can’t for the life of me understand why the rangers keep giving the sorry ass the chance to come back up to the majors. His batting sucks worse than Jordan’s so what is it that keeps bringing him up? i know he was killing it in the minors but its obvious that he doesn’t have what it takes to be in the Majors. Anyone feel like they can explain this to me??
To be honest, I would like to see what his average is since he has come back up. He did have a really good at bat last night to start the 9th. He took a walk and really gave us a chance to end the game, but the guys after him stunk it up. His defense probably has saved a game or two, I am sure of that. So it is going to be interesting what they do with him if they get another guy in.


Adam Dunn anybody?
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To be honest, I would like to see what his average is since he has come back up. He did have a really good at bat last night to start the 9th. He took a walk and really gave us a chance to end the game, but the guys after him stunk it up. His defense probably has saved a game or two, I am sure of that. So it is going to be interesting what they do with him if they get another guy in.


Adam Dunn anybody?


I'd be willing to guess still under the Mendoza line
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To be honest, I would like to see what his average is since he has come back up. He did have a really good at bat last night to start the 9th. He took a walk and really gave us a chance to end the game, but the guys after him stunk it up. His defense probably has saved a game or two, I am sure of that. So it is going to be interesting what they do with him if they get another guy in.


Adam Dunn anybody?
but did u see his other at bats? SO and a ground out to 1st, everytime he comes up i count it as an out, and there have been times when we really needed him and nothing

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Alright, I looked up how to calculate a batting average.

Yes, I was that bored, but it is easy. Divide the number of hits by at bats. I am assuming a double is still considered a hit. And with that, he has 13 hits on 50 at bats. That is an average of .260, which seems high.

Anyone care to try it? here is his numbers. http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/players/...WIibZ2HkyFCLcF

I added up from July 9th up till now.

EDIT: Taking out his base on balls(6) from his total at bats his average goes to .290. lol i must be doing this wrong.
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Alright, I looked up how to calculate a batting average.

Yes, I was that bored, but it is easy. Divide the number of hits by at bats. I am assuming a double is still considered a hit. And with that, he has 13 hits on 50 at bats. That is an average of .260, which seems high.

Anyone care to try it? here is his numbers. http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/players/...WIibZ2HkyFCLcF

I added up from July 9th up till now.

EDIT: Taking out his base on balls(6) from his total at bats his average goes to .290. lol i must be doing this wrong.
The 2B, 3B and HR are factored into the H column already, so you're counting twice on some of those.

Since the break, he's hitting .200.

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Davis (.194) is below the "Mendoza line", which is .200. He's a terrible situational hitter with men on base, and saying he had a great at-bat for a walk (after going 0-3?) is really reaching.

It's time for AAA again.

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The 2B, 3B and HR are factored into the H column already, so you're counting twice on some of those.

Since the break, he's hitting .200.
HA, I knew i was overthinking this crap. Well .200 is better than .187 Trending upward.



Seriously, anyone want Adam Dunn? Nats are dangling him.
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and didnt we give up a good 1st base prospect to get Lee?

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and didnt we give up a good 1st base prospect to get Lee?
Smoak, who is also hitting around .200 with Seattle.

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and didnt we give up a good 1st base prospect to get Lee?
Which would you rather have? A .200 1st baseman prospect or an ace pitcher for a contending year?
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HA, I knew i was overthinking this crap. Well .200 is better than .187 Trending upward.



Seriously, anyone want Adam Dunn? Nats are dangling him.
Hell, I'd take Stevie Wonder, right now. At least I could UNDERSTAND why their 1st baseman was hitting below .200!

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Hell, I'd take Stevie Wonder, right now. At least I could UNDERSTAND why their 1st baseman was hitting below .200!

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Which would you rather have? A .200 1st baseman prospect or an ace pitcher for a contending year?
no i didnt mean i wouldnt have traded for Lee, i would have sent Davis and kept Smoak

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no i didnt mean i wouldnt have traded for Lee, i would have sent Davis and kept Smoak
Then you would still have Davis and Smoak, and no Lee because that was whatSeattle wanted was Smoak.
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Then you would still have Davis and Smoak, and no Lee because that was whatSeattle wanted was Smoak.
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oh ok i didnt know that Seattle asked for Smoak
Smoak was the player that the Mariners had targeted from the beginning, they only traded with the Rangers after the Rangers agreed to trade Smoak. If Smoak had not been included, Cliff Lee would be a Yankee right now.

Since the trade Smoak has struck out 22 times and only walked once.

Since the trade Cliff Lee has struck out 25 batters and only walked one.

I think we came out WAY ahead on that trade, especially if we can sign Lee to an extended contract.

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oh ok i didnt know that Seattle asked for Smoak
They (like me) see more potential there. Davis isn't a "has-been", he's a "never-was".

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Smoak was the player that the Mariners had targeted from the beginning, they only traded with the Rangers after the Rangers agreed to trade Smoak. If Smoak had not been included, Cliff Lee would be a Yankee right now.

Since the trade Smoak has struck out 22 times and only walked once.

Since the trade Cliff Lee has struck out 25 batters and only walked one.

I think we came out WAY ahead on that trade, especially if we can sign Lee to an extended contract.
i wish and hope that we can, but i doubt that Lee would want to stay here especially if we dont go all the way

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They (like me) see more potential there. Davis isn't a "has-been", he's a "never-was".
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I think the Davis choice has more to do with his ability to catch the stuff Young throws in his general direction than anything else. Heck I bet Vlad could be a decent first basemen if all he had to catch were line drives and throws from Elvis and Kinsler.

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Smoak was the player that the Mariners had targeted from the beginning, they only traded with the Rangers after the Rangers agreed to trade Smoak. If Smoak had not been included, Cliff Lee would be a Yankee right now.

Since the trade Smoak has struck out 22 times and only walked once.

Since the trade Cliff Lee has struck out 25 batters and only walked one.

I think we came out WAY ahead on that trade, especially if we can sign Lee to an extended contract.
You can't compare the two, and I'm thinking Lee won't be here next year: The one exception would be if the Rangers go deep into the playoffs.

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I think the Davis choice has more to do with his ability to catch the stuff Young throws in his general direction than anything else. Heck I bet Vlad could be a decent first basemen if all he had to catch were line drives and throws from Elvis and Kinsler.
I can't think of one 1st baseman (in my lifetime) whose field play was good enough to cover shitty hitting. A shortstop, second baseman, yeah. Almost all 1st basemen carry a pretty big stick.

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I can't think of one 1st baseman (in my lifetime) whose field play was good enough to cover shitty hitting. A shortstop, second baseman, yeah. Almost all 1st basemen carry a pretty big stick.


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well i just heard on ESPN that the Rangers are one of the front runners to get Fielder from the Brewers if the Rangers could afford it

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well i just heard on ESPN that the Rangers are one of the front runners to get Fielder from the Brewers if the Rangers could afford it
Wasn't he the stunt double for Fat Bastard in that Austin Powers movie?

I was thinking he wanted "national debt" money for a long term contract. He's hitting around .260 with 24 homer's and about 50 ribbies I think.

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I was thinking he wanted "national debt" money for a long term contract. He's hitting around .260 with 24 homer's and about 50 ribbies I think.
no i think if they get him they will take the 2year contract he signed last year with the Brewers so we would only have to pay 9mil

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well i just heard on ESPN that the Rangers are one of the front runners to get Fielder from the Brewers if the Rangers could afford it
God i hope not. We need to focus on resigning Cliff Lee and forget about that fat overpaid bastard. There are much cheaper alternatives out there that will work just as well

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no i didnt mean i wouldnt have traded for Lee, i would have sent Davis and kept Smoak
Why? Neither one can hit, but Davis has a much better glove.
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I was thinking he wanted "national debt" money for a long term contract. He's hitting around .260 with 24 homer's and about 50 ribbies I think.
Sweet, then you'd get to keep using your "first baseman that can't hit his own weight" line!


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Why? Neither one can hit, but Davis has a much better glove.Sweet, then you'd get to keep using your "first baseman that can't hit his own weight" line!
It wouldn't be so bad if they find a 350lb'er that can hit .340!

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i canít for the life of me understand why the rangers keep giving the sorry ass the chance to come back up to the majors. His batting sucks worse than Jordanís so what is it that keeps bringing him up?
The 2nd coming of Nelson Cruz? For the first couple of years...he was tearing it up in the minors, but stunk in the majors. Everytime he was brought up, he sucked. Now the Rangers are reaping the dividends of patience that the Brewers didn't have.
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The 2nd coming of Nelson Cruz? For the first couple of years...he was tearing it up in the minors, but stunk in the majors. Everytime he was brought up, he sucked. Now the Rangers are reaping the dividends of patience that the Brewers didn't have.
You're giving Davis waaay too much credit. He's not even starting tonight.


Hell, Moreland just got a hit in his first big league at-bat. Ranger's have already improved at 1st!

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I'm not saying Davis will ever bat .300 or close to it...but his glove is worth puttin up with a .250 average...assuming he can get his average that high. The comparison to Cruz is that he ripped it up in the minors - .300+ avg, high HR, high RBI...but couldn't hit for shit. It took him what, 4-5 years before he finally figure it out? As a contender this year, we don't have the luxury of waiting on Davis to figure it out, but hopefully it's something he'll get straightened out in the next year or so.
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We don't have to worry anymore because Davis was optioned to Triple A today.

Looks like its Cantu and Moreland as our first baseman now

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