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Just ordered $500 worth of senior league youth bats

For my 8 yr old. His first year playing. Coach pitch pinto league.


Am I high, or is this really what it takes to be competitive these days? Fucking shit! That's a lot of beer money!!!
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Why 2? I know you're new to this game and all, so I'll let you in on a little secret: he can only swing one at a time!

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you always need 2-3 bats and 500 sounds about right
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Why 2? I know you're new to this game and all, so I'll let you in on a little secret: he can only swing one at a time!

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Checked and replied. I'm helping coach his team, and after several long discussions with the HC, I decided to get him a few. His kids can fucking jack the ball. I'm talking homerun contact every time they hit it. One is 6 the other is 8. He was telling me he started them both out on heavier bats, and worked their way to lighter bats. I'm guessing because once they can control a heavier bat, they can really knock the shit out of it with a lighter one, and maintain even better bat control/speed?


It's not like it will be a total loss. I can re-sell when/if I need to. I always grew up with broke ass hand me downs (in other sports, as I never played baseball). The kiddo has potential, so I want him to have what I never had. Good equipment.
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Checked and replied. I'm helping coach his team, and after several long discussions with the HC, I decided to get him a few. His kids can fucking jack the ball. I'm talking homerun contact every time they hit it. One is 6 the other is 8. He was telling me he started them both out on heavier bats, and worked their way to lighter bats. I'm guessing because once they can control a heavier bat, they can really knock the shit out of it with a lighter one, and maintain even better bat control/speed?


It's not like it will be a total loss. I can re-sell when/if I need to. I always grew up with broke ass hand me downs (in other sports, as I never played baseball). The kiddo has potential, so I want him to have what I never had. Good equipment.
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Yeah, those Easton Synergy composite bats are hot. They dont make one that my son can swing since he is so big. I had to buy a kid on my team a replacement after my kid hit a ball with it and cracked it. Colby uses the Worth Lithium 30/20 and its a hot bat as well. He has 9 HRs already this season in 4 tourneys played. Fences are 200-225ft.
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I recently ordered my 11 yoa an Easton bat with the carbon fiber neck and alloy barrel. I'm at work and don't remember the model, but it was originally $280, and I bought it for $100 from www.closeoutbats.com
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Yeah, those Easton Synergy composite bats are hot. They dont make one that my son can swing since he is so big. I had to buy a kid on my team a replacement after my kid hit a ball with it and cracked it. Colby uses the Worth Lithium 30/20 and its a hot bat as well. He has 9 HRs already this season in 4 tourneys played. Fences are 200-225ft.
Yes, this sport is expensive!
It doesn't cost half what hockey does...
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haha when I was in coach pitch my parents bought me a 30 dollar bat from play-it-again sports and it hit just as good as everyone's 200-300 dollar bats....

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The kiddo has potential, so I want him to have what I never had. Good equipment.
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haha when I was in coach pitch my parents bought me a 30 dollar bat from play-it-again sports and it hit just as good as everyone's 200-300 dollar bats....
Its the indian not the arrow...but it does help the indian to have a straight and sharp arrow.
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It's not like it will be a total loss. I can re-sell when/if I need to. I always grew up with broke ass hand me downs (in other sports, as I never played baseball). The kiddo has potential, so I want him to have what I never had. Good equipment.
Yup, if my son doesnt do well at this, it wont be due to inferior equipment.
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Bcoop, your going to coach, and you never played? That will be interesting.

Either way, yea you want two bats. One that is a little bigger than the other. We use a Synergy bat for softball. It is pretty good. The prices your are saying seem somewhat high, but about right.
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Bcoop, your going to coach, and you never played? That will be interesting.

Either way, yea you want two bats. One that is a little bigger than the other. We use a Synergy bat for softball. It is pretty good. The prices your are saying seem somewhat high, but about right.
I'm just helping. Someone had to step up and offer assistance. The rest of the parents were of no help. I offered to help efore this point, but the league had to tell the parents that if nobody was going to step up, they would disband the team and only had room for two kids on other teams. My kid and coach's kid had those spots taken. Head coach has a flawless record. First in state last year, second in world series for some team in Grand Prairie.


The Demarini was half off of everywhere else I looked due to being an 09 model. The Eastons were all within $10 of each other.
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Here's the bat I was talking about:

http://www.bplowestprices.com/easton...ll-bat-10.html
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The white Easton Synergy with blue accents is one of the hottest bats out there...the smaller kids on my team hit them with great success. Most play the 28/17 or 27/16.
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big barrell banned in his league?
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Yeah, those Easton Synergy composite bats are hot. They dont make one that my son can swing since he is so big. I had to buy a kid on my team a replacement after my kid hit a ball with it and cracked it. Colby uses the Worth Lithium 30/20 and its a hot bat as well. He has 9 HRs already this season in 4 tourneys played. Fences are 200-225ft.
Yes, this sport is expensive!
It wasn't under warranty? Usually you can send it back and they'll send you a replacement, if it's fairly new. I know a guy that had an Easton something or another last year, cracked it, sent it back, but it had been discontinued - Easton sent him 2 new V12s...


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For my 8 yr old. His first year playing. Coach pitch pinto league.


Am I high, or is this really what it takes to be competitive these days? Fucking shit! That's a lot of beer money!!!
What team is your son playing for? Is it Select or rec..

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Lol, I wonder how all those poor Dom. Republic kids make it to the big leagues...
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holy crap. i thought baseball bats were like 30 bux.
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What team is your son playing for? Is it Select or rec..
City league. Coach was talking about possibly getting a select team together next year. If that doesn't happen, he will be trying out for one, which I dont think will be a problem.
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holy crap. i thought baseball bats were like 30 bux.
They have $30 bats, all over the place. In fact, I couldn't even find anyone that carries the good bats locally. All your typical places like Academy, Dicks, Sports Authority carry the shit run of the mill bats.
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Lol, I wonder how all those poor Dom. Republic kids make it to the big leagues...
I've already explained my reasoning. I played sports with crappy hand me down equipment. I overcame it, but why on earth would you not give your kid what you never had? Why wouldn't you want to give them the best chance to succeed at something? Pardon me for trying to provide better.
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big barrell banned in his league?
No, last season the coach had everyone swinging a wood bat, and you can't get a big barrelled wood bat, so I went with what he was used to.
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I've already explained my reasoning. I played sports with crappy hand me down equipment. I overcame it, but why on earth would you not give your kid what you never had? Why wouldn't you want to give them the best chance to succeed at something? Pardon me for trying to provide better.
I don't think it was a personal dig at you, I just think he was thinking in general, but out loud.
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No, last season the coach had everyone swinging a wood bat, and you can't get a big barrelled wood bat, so I went with what he was used to.
Not a good coach...why handicap your kids from the start?
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wait till they get older...is $1,500 just to get on a select team....

just wait....u will really be poor...i know..i have 2....
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My son is on a select team...if the kid is good enough, they will pay you to have him on the team!
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The only time equipment really matters is if the kid doesn't get proper critique to ensure they are evolving as an athlete, and not just becoming a product of the equipment. It's MUCH easier to adapt a swing to a hot bat at an early age, and then not be able to maintain performance relative to your peers because you have terrible mechanics. If the kid has great mechanics, and is able to continue to improve, by all means, give him the best available.

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Not a good coach...why handicap your kids from the start?
That's a pretty uninformed blanket statement. Many of the best baseball minds and coaches in the country are of the opinion that teaching with wood is the best way to ensure proper mechanics. Just because your kid hits farther with a good bat doesn't mean he wouldn't benefit long term from some time with a log.

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Because one coach thinks it promotes proper mechanics that makes it right? You cannot learn proper mechanics with a composite/allow bat? Yes, some coaches have heavier wood bats for use in practice and in the cages...but to use them in a game is handicapping a child..and a team.
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More blanket statements out of thin air, awesome.

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Please explain how what I said is a blanket statement. We are more in agreement than not. Yes, use the wood in the cages...but the other on the field during a game. The man said their coach only allows wood. I disagreed with that logic.
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More like blanket insinuating questions, I never said either of the things you questioned. You disagreed with his logic, but that doesn't make it wrong, or terrible. I'm not defending that particular coach, but I will trust the opinions of coaches who've spent decades in the game who share his views.

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My son is on a select team...if the kid is good enough, they will pay you to have him on the team!
My kid hasn't made it that far yet. When I'm confident he has, we will start looking around.
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You cannot learn proper mechanics with a composite/allow bat?
A good bat can help to significantly compensate for flawed mechanics and still give decent results. You won't get away with as much with a wood bat.


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My kid hasn't made it that far yet. When I'm confident he has, we will start looking around.
Bcoop, Look into the Irving Canes they have a great baseball program.

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He went 3 for 3 with the Vendetta in a scrimmage. Base hits only, but I'm still proud. Gotta work on bat speed with him. He swings like he is in slow mo at the plate, but swings fast when warming up.


Coach's kid, jacked two in the park homers and one over the fence @ 235. Also with a vendetta, but heavier/longer.
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A good bat can help to significantly compensate for flawed mechanics and still give decent results. You won't get away with as much with a wood bat.
The same goes for glove size. My little one plays t-ball and has a normal size glove for his level and can catch damn near anything thrown at him. There are some kids on the team with almost adult sized gloves. What's the point? Sure, they catch the ball. But, are they learning anything?

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There is no right or wrong answer for any of the afore mentioned questions. In all actuality, it is all irrelevant unless the kid is actually determined to be the best he can be amongst his peers. None of this is easy as you can burn a kid out if it gets too serious. In my opinion, teach him or have somebody teach him good habits and let him go have fun. I wouldn't interfere and/or get serious about it until the kiddo is around 12-13 at which point I would hire a hitting instructor.

I was very fortunate growing up because my dad was a dang good teacher. My pops weighed about 150 lbs. and could jack a softball 325-340 ft. This was well before the bat technology of today so some of yall that know can appreciate the fact. His power was contributed solely to his mechanics. Other then letting me hit a tire, playing wiffle ball, and playing little games in the backyard he never messed with me until I got to Jr. High.
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My 8yr old is as big as a 13yr old and his coordination is catching up...we work on his game every day...be it in the back yard or at the cages or at the field. I make it as fun as possible but I do demand 100% effort from him when we are working. As long as he is having fun and wants to play, I will put forth the effort to make sure he goes as far as he can with it.
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My 8yr old is as big as a 13yr old and his coordination is catching up...we work on his game every day...be it in the back yard or at the cages or at the field. I make it as fun as possible but I do demand 100% effort from him when we are working. As long as he is having fun and wants to play, I will put forth the effort to make sure he goes as far as he can with it.
That is awesome.....you are lucky to have a kid that wants to better himself rather then taking the easy road and playing video games all day. I hope my 2 yr old is as dedicated as I was.

As far as the dominican republic kids mentioned in an earlier post....their hand to eye coordination is un-parallel to anything here. Hell...they hit rocks with sticks over there. Most of their arms have not been burned in a meaningless game countless times. They have raw talent and fresh arms.
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That is awesome.....you are lucky to have a kid that wants to better himself rather then taking the easy road and playing video games all day. I hope my 2 yr old is as dedicated as I was.
Same with my kid. Since he started playing bball, the video games have stopped completely. And it's by his own doing. He'd rather get out and practice every single night. The HC on his team, is now offering private lessons and he wants in so bad he can taste it. I guess I don't have much of a choice but to oblige.


FWIW, we won our first game last night. 5-4. My kiddo went 1 for 2. Got a base hit. Could have been a double, but I played it safe and told him to stay at 1st. He also tagged a runner out while on defense. I'm pretty proud. I can't believe they won. They played horribly. Most of these kids are first year kids, so we've had to spend so much time on catching, throwing, practicing swings, etc, they haven't had a real chance to get any game situation type practice other than the one scrimmage they have had. We'll be working hard on infield and what to do with base runners this week. They look clueless out there.
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