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Suck it up. They struggled with a less than mediocre Nebraska team. They're going to lose by 10+.
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Ummm....wat? Really? This doesn't make sense to you? I hope you don't have to make any decisions that involve critical thinking at your job!

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Ummm....wat? Really? This doesn't make sense to you? I hope you don't have to make any decisions that involve critical thinking at your job!
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You're a huge TX fan but pick'em to lose??
I'm a Texas fan, but I'm also based in reality. Bama has a real defense, and our D is ehhhh. I hope they bring their A game, that's all. I'd like to be surprised with a UT win.

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Suck it up. They struggled with a less than mediocre Nebraska team. They're going to lose by 10+.
And Bama almost lost against Auburn at home,,,not to mention that Auburn held Ingram to 28 yards.





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IF you're a fan you stick with your team,,you dont pick them to lose. Now turn on pump 6 because I'm in a hurry.
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And Bama almost lost against Auburn at home,,,not to mention that Auburn held Ingram to 28 yards.
Alabama's bigger hiccup was the game they should have lost to Tennessee, where Alabama blocked 2 separate FGs, one in the last second, to win 13-12.
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Suck it up. They struggled with a less than mediocre Nebraska team. They're going to lose by 10+.
How can you say that about Nebraska? They were playing end of season championship style football and Suh became a Heisman contender because of their intense playing. Nebraska dominated in their bowl game 44-0 over Arizona.





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Why is that so funny? Just curious.
Because he listens to 105.3.
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And Bama almost lost against Auburn at home,,,not to mention that Auburn held Ingram to 28 yards.
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How can you say that about Nebraska? They were playing end of season championship style football and Suh became a Heisman contender because of their intense playing. Nebraska dominated in their bowl game 44-0 over Arizona.
Because he's an OU fan. Nebraska won 33-0, not 44-0.
I don't see anything ridiculous about Witten's prediction.
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What the fuck does that have to do with the topic at hand? Cowboys haven't won the Super Bowl, nor have they made it that far yet.
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And Bama almost lost against Auburn at home,,,not to mention that Auburn held Ingram to 28 yards.
If I recall correctly, they ONLY held him to 28 yards because he got hurt. Again, your point?
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If I recall correctly, they ONLY held him to 28 yards because he got hurt. Again, your point?
He got hurt late in the 4th quarter. However, I still don't get this guy's point.
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How can you say that about Nebraska? They were playing end of season championship style football and Suh became a Heisman contender because of their intense playing. Nebraska dominated in their bowl game 44-0 over Arizona.
Uhhh, it's Arizona. When was the last time Arizona was a contender for... well, anything?
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He got hurt late in the 4th quarter. However, I still don't get this guy's point.
Then quit responding and gtfo! I say Texas is going to win thats it whats not to get? Its my opinion so what! I think its funny that Witten flys under the radar on anything possibly controversial but he threw it out there about the TX Bama game.





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Bama is going to win, even though I will be pulling for Texas they just seem to be outmatched against Bama...
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If I recall correctly, they ONLY held him to 28 yards because he got hurt. Again, your point?


like slow99 said, he was hurt on their last drive of the game.



and i still don't understand how people (media or on here) are saying that Texas is outmatched or Alabama has more talent or more speed. Just because they beat Florida?

i hope the Alabama players think like most of the poeple out there think
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your first problem is that your listening to 105.3

second, Witten is going to favor an SEC team.

third, you listen to 105.3
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like slow99 said, he was hurt on their last drive of the game.
Yeah, I didn't realize that, so I'll retract that comment.



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and i still don't understand how people (media or on here) are saying that Texas is outmatched or Alabama has more talent or more speed. Just because they beat Florida?

I think a lot of it has to do with the Nebraska game. And didn't UT struggle with Aggie? If I'm misspeaking, I apologize. Once Bradford went down this season, I stopped watching the other Big XII teams as closely as I normally do.
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and i still don't understand how people (media or on here) are saying that Texas is outmatched or Alabama has more talent or more speed. Just because they beat Florida?

i hope the Alabama players think like most of the poeple out there think
Yes, imo it's due to the way they handled Florida and UT struggled with Nebraska. I think if the Texas o-line shows up they'll win in a close one. Too close to call, I'm just looking forward to a good game and obviously cheering for the Horns. I also can't overlook the fact that UT's kickoff coverage this year has been dreadful. I can easily see Bama returning a kickoff for a TD.

However, reading and watching stories, you'd think UT shouldn't even show up to the game. It's like the spread is 20 or something. I sure hope Bama is taking them lightly.
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I think a lot of it has to do with the Nebraska game. And didn't UT struggle with Aggie? If I'm misspeaking, I apologize. Once Bradford went down this season, I stopped watching the other Big XII teams as closely as I normally do.
I think UT scored 49 on aggie, and gave up 39. That's a lot of scoring, for sure. Still, a 10 point win @ College Station wasn't too bad.

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Yes, imo it's due to the way they handled Florida and UT struggled with Nebraska. I think if the Texas o-line shows up they'll win in a close one. Too close to call, I'm just looking forward to a good game and obviously cheering for the Horns. I also can't overlook the fact that UT's kickoff coverage this year has been dreadful. I can easily see Bama returning a kickoff for a TD.

However, reading and watching stories, you'd think UT shouldn't even show up to the game. It's like the spread is 20 or something. I sure hope Bama is taking them lightly.
I really like the fact that they are considered pretty good underdogs.

If McCoy feels like he was slighted the last couple of years, he may have that chip on his shoulder like VY did a few years back. He is the key to this game.

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I really like the fact that they are considered pretty good underdogs.

If McCoy feels like he was slighted the last couple of years, he may have that chip on his shoulder like VY did a few years back. He is the key to this game.
Yep, the scenario is very similar to the game 4 years ago. I have 3 friends who graduated from Bama and they all agreed that the Florida game was their super bowl. They didn't give a shit what happened as long as they beat the Gators.
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Pts/G Yds/G Pass Yds Rush Yds Int
Texas 15.2 251.8 2456 818 24
Alabama 11 241.8 2129 1015 20

Texas #1 against the run
Alabama # 5 against the run
skewed b/c sec is run first conference

Texas is #40 against pass
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skewed b/c Big 12 is pass first conference

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Texas 40.7 432.4 3636 1985
Alabama 31.7 413.8 2573 2806

Texas #4 Total Offense
Alabama #27 Total Offense

Texas Passing #11
Alabama Passing #67

Texas Rushing #48
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maybe give Texas Defense a little more credit

It does seem as if everyone (media) isn't giving Texas much of a chance.. I dont see why not. either way its going to be a great game and I'm sticking with Texas

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You can stick with your team and still make realistic predictions that they'll lose...
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Then quit responding and gtfo! I say Texas is going to win thats it whats not to get? Its my opinion so what! I think its funny that Witten flys under the radar on anything possibly controversial but he threw it out there about the TX Bama game.
What's controversial about picking the #1 ranked team to beat the #2 ranked team?


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It does seem as if everyone (media) isn't giving Texas much of a chance.. I dont see why not.
A lot of that is to be expected. It's the ever present SEC bias.


I'd love to see UT win. Even with as much as I hate UT, I'd rather the title go to a Big XII team. If there's anything I hate as much or more than UT, it's the SEC. I just don't see it happening.
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Alabama 11 241.8 2129 1015 20

Texas #1 against the run
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Texas is #40 against pass
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Texas 40.7 432.4 3636 1985
Alabama 31.7 413.8 2573 2806

Texas #4 Total Offense
Alabama #27 Total Offense

Texas Passing #11
Alabama Passing #67

Texas Rushing #48
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maybe give Texas Defense a little more credit

It does seem as if everyone (media) isn't giving Texas much of a chance.. I dont see why not. either way its going to be a great game and I'm sticking with Texas
Great stats, and I appreciate the effort. The "skewed" parts are the concerns for me. Look at what a Tech team can do to your "pass defense" stats. Whether you beat them or not, they will throw for a lot of yards.

These two teams really are different in their philosophies. If UT (big "if") can stop the run, "Bama will be in trouble. If McCoy can't throw, UT has no "run" option.
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A lot of that is to be expected. It's the ever present SEC bias.


I'd love to see UT win. Even with as much as I hate UT, I'd rather the title go to a Big XII team. If there's anything I hate as much or more than UT, it's the SEC. I just don't see it happening.
I pulled for every Big 12 team in the bowl games. They're like your little brother...you can kick his ass all you want, but if someone else does it, they need to look out.

This will be a tough one, but it wouldn't shock me to see either team totally dominate the other. Any time two totally different teams meet up, anything can happen. Some of the bowl games reflect that. Tech whipped a pretty good team, and Nebraska won 33-0.

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Great stats, and I appreciate the effort. The "skewed" parts are the concerns for me. Look at what a Tech team can do to your "pass defense" stats. Whether you beat them or not, they will throw for a lot of yards.

These two teams really are different in their philosophies. If UT (big "if") can stop the run, "Bama will be in trouble. If McCoy can't throw, UT has no "run" option.
McCoy is the key to the entire game. UT goes as he goes.
why do you say "big If'? when they are number 1 against the run...

I agree with big studly that they are more evenly matched than either side wants to admit..

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why do you say "big If'? when they are number 1 against the run...

I agree with big studly that they are more evenly matched than either side wants to admit..
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you want to know how big of a fucking nerd I am? Check out this spread sheet I did a few weeks back. I compiled all of the data, did some simple math and came up with a prediction for points, rushing yards and passing yards for both Alabama and Texas.

It is all based on ratios of how each Texas and Alabama did against their conference opponents since that is the majority of their schedule. I then compared the conference averages to try and normalize the numbers for the pass happy Big 12 and the run happy SEC. Then compared each team to the the opposing conference average. Did it for both offense and defense for each team. Took the average and came up the predicted scores and yards.

It is purely academic and I was more or less curious how it would compare to what actually a happens. I was going to scrub it some more to try and factor in special teams, turnovers and defensive scoring a bit more, but I never got the chance.

So, I say 21-17 Alabama, but Texas has a little bit more offense than Alabama. I think what it really shows is that these teams are pretty equal, maybe more than we thought, but then again, it is just straight math and you can't account for the human element that will surely be present.

You're correct about the nerdiness of spreading that! I think UT has the edge on special teams, except kickoff coverage. Texas' kickoff coverage has been horrible this year and Bama has an excellent return man. I can see Bama taking one to the house during this game.

On a different note, I've tried to upload spreadsheets before that contained my valuations of companies but couldn't do it. I guess I need to zip them. Can you post, or pm, how you zipped the spreadsheet?
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why do you say "big If'? when they are number 1 against the run...

I agree with big studly that they are more evenly matched than either side wants to admit..
My "if" comes in the form of the Heisman Trophy winner that 'Bama has in the backfield. I can't recall UT facing a running back of that caliber this season.

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