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Question UFC 104 Predictions

What are your predictions for tonight? I'm a HUGE Machida fan, and I hope he pulls this one off. Shogun Rua is NO joke.

What about the other fights on the card?
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Outside of the Machida fight, which I don't think he'll have a problem with I don't know who is fighting except that Ben whatever guy that they have in the advertisement. Can't say I really care who wins. It is cool that they're showing the pre-lim fights. Apparently they did it last time, too.
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Outside of the Machida fight, which I don't think he'll have a problem with I don't know who is fighting except that Ben whatever guy that they have in the advertisement. Can't say I really care who wins. It is cool that they're showing the pre-lim fights. Apparently they did it last time, too.
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What are your predictions for tonight? I'm a HUGE Machida fan, and I hope he pulls this one off. Shogun Rua is NO joke.

What about the other fights on the card?
My prediction is - no one will win tonight.

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My prediction is - no one will win tonight.
I'd put all in on this bet. Someone might take you up on it.

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i think:

Lyoto Machida
Ryan Bader
Cain Velasquez
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My prediction is - no one will win tonight.


Hell, i meant tomorrow.
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Machida
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LOL, this event looks slightly slanted according to the odds.


Lyoto Machida -450 vs. Mauricio Rua +325
Cain Velasquez -300 vs. Ben Rothwell +220
Pat Barry -105 vs. Antoni Hardonk -125
Yushin Okami -250 vs. Chael Sonnen +185
Joe Stevenson -220 vs. Spencer Fisher +175
Ryan Bader -500 vs. Eric Schafer +350

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Man, Shogun is giving Machida a beating.

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Wow...Shogun just got robbed.

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Wow...Shogun just got robbed.
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wow...shogun just got robbed.
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I agree that Shogun was robbed.
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Go back and look at the fight and score it round by round. I think a lot of people get so caught up in fights they forget that they are scored by the round and not the overall fight. I gave rounds two and three to Machida with rounds four and five to Shogun (easily) however the first round was a very hard round to call. If you go back and count blow for blow i am sure someone landed more but in a championship fight you have to beat the champ. If a round is that close it goes to the champ.

If this was judged in a Pride ring Shogun wins.

I think the big lights got ahold of Big Ben.

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Big Ben lol what a joke. Joe stevens looked really good
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Big Ben lol what a joke. Joe stevens looked really good
LMFAO at this...Ben is no joke, Cain is a serious talent though.
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Shogun got fucking robbed. Velasquez is an animal.

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Glad I didnt pay to rent it. The Machida fight was kinda boring to watch. They just danced with each other
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lol..why are any of you all shocked by this? UFC has always been "you have to beat the champ to take his belt" trying to out score him has never worked. Look at Tim S can't think of his last name I know it starts with an s, he always backed up and played D and won every fight till he got beat to shit by randy couture.

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lol..why are any of you all shocked by this? UFC has always been "you have to beat the champ to take his belt" trying to out score him has never worked. Look at Tim S can't think of his last name I know it starts with an s, he always backed up and played D and won every fight till he got beat to shit by randy couture.
what sucks is that not only did Shogun land more strikes, control the pace, assert himself any time he wanted, but here's some borrowed judging...

- Joe Rogan and Goldberg gave the fight to Shogun.




Dana White: "I thought Shogun won".

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MMA journalists and websites

FightMetric: 49-47 Rua
Yahoo Sports / Cagewriter: 48-47 Rua
BloodyElbow : 48-47 Rua
USAToday: 48-47 Rua, 49-46 Rua
MMA Fanhouse / Michael David Smith: 48-47 Rua
MMATorch : 48-47 Rua
MMAJunkie : 49-46 or 48-47 Rua
MMAMania : 50-45 Rua
5 Ounces of Pain : Rua (no score given)
Fightlinker -- Rua (no score given)
ProMMA.Info: 50-45 Rua
Sherdog:
Jordan Breen scores the round 10-9 Rua (48-47 Rua)
Brian Knapp scores the round 10-9 Rua (48-47 Rua)
Mike Fridley scores the round 10-9 Rua (50-45 Rua)

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I'm a HUGE Machida fan, but that said,


SHOGUN GOT ROBBED!!!
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Great video with Dana White and his thoughts, and he also keeps the pimp hand strong when asked about Steve Mazzagatti's call of the Velasquez/Rothwell fight.

http://www.foxnews.com/video2/video0...w.foxnews.com/

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Big Ben has no ground game, hence why Cain took him there every time. Had they gone toe to toe the outcome probably would have been different. Cain will be fine until he meets his equal on the ground.

Shogun beat Machida 3 rounds to 2 in my book. A boring fight, not what anyone expected.
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I know its late and the fight is old, but I just watched it twice with 2 buddies that I train with. I can honestly say that I think if you really feel shogun won that fight you are full of crap. I scored the first for neither, 9-9. second and third for Machida, the fourth again, for neither. And the last for shogun. I think its funny that everytime in the first four rounds when shogun went for that same lame ass leg kick, he would eat one right in the mouth. But all they can say is, oh nice leg kick by shogun. Im just stating the facts. Watch the fight again. Flame on
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