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Rudy Jaramillo gone

I have mixed feelings about this. He's done a great job and I think last year was an abberration. Curious to see who we get next.

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The rest of the coaching staff will return, the Rangers have announced.

Dallas-raised Rudy Jaramillo, the Rangers hitting instructor for the last 15 seasons, has turned down the club's one-year contract offer and is preparing to explore the free agent market after his contract expires October 31.

Jaramillo, who turned 59 on September 20, has been a player, coach or manager in the Rangers' organization for 26 of his 31 years in baseball.

Rangers officials met with Jaramillo shortly after the season to extend the one-year offer but to also stipulate that the offense needed to improve. The Rangers ranked seventh in runs scored in the AL in 2009, but ranked 11th of 14 teams in batting average (.260) and 12th in on-base percentage (.320). There were concerns about the team's approach, particularly how often the Rangers swung at first pitches and put themselves in unfavorable hitting counts. Though the Rangers ranked in the middle of the pack in pitches per plate appearance (7th at 3.86), they had the highest percentage of first-pitch swings in the AL (31.1) last season.

During his tenure, Jaramillo has produced four MVPs (Juan Gonzalez twice, Ivan Rodriguez and Alex Rodriguez), a batting champ (Michael Young) and three home run champions (Alex Rodriguez 2001-03).

As mentioned earlier, the Cubs have no hitting instructor and Chicago Tribune columnist Phil Rogers has suggested the Cubs make a strong play for Jaramillo.
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But he did so much for Andruw Jones, Teagarden and Salty. With the complete lack of offense in September I don't really have any faith in him or Washington.

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But he did so much for Andruw Jones, Teagarden and Salty. With the complete lack of offense in September I don't really have any faith in him or Washington.
He really did some good work with Hamilton's swing and with Kinsler's too!

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One year without a potent offense and the guy is out on his ass. What's even worse is some of you supporting it. This time next year, if the offense is still stagnant, the same lot of you will be saying you want Rudy back.

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Maybe they can learn to hit of obp instead of hitting for power now. That's pretty much how they won the whole season, until the bats completely went quite.
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He really did some good work with Hamilton's swing and with Kinsler's too!
Let's not forget Chris Davis...

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One year without a potent offense and the guy is out on his ass. What's even worse is some of you supporting it. This time next year, if the offense is still stagnant, the same lot of you will be saying you want Rudy back.
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He turned down their offer...
I guess if I actually read the article...

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Let's not forget Chris Davis...
Which reminds me.

I think we should hire the AAA hitting coach. Chris Davis went down there and got it figured out. He was batting .200 when he got sent down. In the minors, he hit .300+. When he came back to the majors, he raised his average to .238 before the season ended. That's some serious hitting to raise your average .038 this late in the season.... I mean it's not like he only had 150 AB on the year...he had 400. I'm gonna see if I can figure out what he hit in the final month.
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Ah, here we go.

Final month. Davis played 18 games. Had 66 AB, 7 R, 23 H. He had a .515 slugging percentage and batted .348.
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Ah, here we go.

Final month. Davis played 18 games. Had 66 AB, 7 R, 23 H. He had a .515 slugging percentage and batted .348.
We need to keep this in perspective. AAA means AAA pitching. 18 games in a month, means he took off about every 3rd game. I'm sure he improved, but hitting .348 over 18 games just doesn't show me a lot.

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Kinda saw that one coming. Heard talk about it within the family.
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I was at his bday get together.

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We need to keep this in perspective. AAA means AAA pitching. 18 games in a month, means he took off about every 3rd game. I'm sure he improved, but hitting .348 over 18 games just doesn't show me a lot.
He improved his average against major league pitching, after going to the minors and working with the hitting coach there.

It would be nice to see a coach that would work the same magic with the hitters as Maddux did with the pitching.

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He improved his average against major league pitching, after going to the minors and working with the hitting coach there.

It would be nice to see a coach that would work the same magic with the hitters as Maddux did with the pitching.
He improved his hitting over 18 games. That's good. Is he "cured"?

It's odd...I remember having a very similar conversation like this about Josh "the Mick" Hamilton, too. "Flash-in-the-pan" ballplayers are a dime a dozen. If Washington had the same faith in Davis, he would have played more.

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He improved his hitting over 18 games. That's good. Is he "cured"?

It's odd...I remember having a very similar conversation like this about Josh "the Mick" Hamilton, too. "Flash-in-the-pan" ballplayers are a dime a dozen. If Washington had the same faith in Davis, he would have played more.
I agree, we need to see consistent improvement from Davis over a season or more.

Regardless, it will be interesting to see what affect a new hitting coach would have, sometimes change IS what is needed.

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He improved his average against major league pitching, after going to the minors and working with the hitting coach there.
Yes, improvement against major league pitching was evident as well. In those 18 games, he had 17 strikeouts. That's high, but he was averaging damn near 2 strikeouts a game before being sent down and was on pace to break the all time major league record for Ks in a season.
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I agree, we need to see consistent improvement from Davis over a season or more.

Regardless, it will be interesting to see what affect a new hitting coach would have, sometimes change IS what is needed.
At this point, a change was definitely needed. When a teams' production at the plate drops from one year to the next (dramatically!), you have to look at the coach. Maddox made a big change in the pitching production, so what the hell? Maybe there's some young guy out there that can relate better to these guys, or as you mentioned, some guy in AAA that's can be a real find.

They may not have fired Rudy, but a 1 year deal is not any type of commitment, and I'm sure he realized that.

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