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Roy Williams traded to dallas

just heard on nfl network that detroits wr and former longhorn was traded to dallas. anyone else here anything?

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the rumor is out there, details to come.
deadline was 9 mins ago
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just heard on nfl network that detroits wr and former longhorn was traded to dallas. anyone else here anything?
Yep, they are converting him to a cornerback.

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"Details to come" according to Dallas morning News homepage.

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Where you guys get this shit is beyond me. hahaha

thats what the ticket reported but something HAS TO BE wrong with that trade.

no way we only gave up 2 2nd rounders!
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ESPN says they are discussing it but Detroit is hesitant, anyone have link with confirmation?
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Dallas Cowboys acquire WR Roy Williams from Lions

03:13 PM CDT on Tuesday, October 14, 2008

By TODD ARCHER / The Dallas Morning News
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IRVING Dallas Cowboys owner and general manager Jerry Jones made no secret he wanted to add a receiver opposite Terrell Owens in the off-season. It just took until the final moments before the trade deadline to get it done.

The Cowboys on Tuesday acquired UT-ex Roy Williams from Detroit for first-, third- and sixth-round picks in 2009 while the Lions will kick back their seventh-rounder in 2009, moments before the 3 p.m. trade deadline, according to a source.

The move bolsters a passing game that is ranked fourth in the NFL but about to experience life without quarterback Tony Romo (fractured pinkie finger).

Williams, who turns 27 in December, has 17 catches for 232 yards and a touchdown for the 0-5 Lions. His best year came in 2006, the only season in which he played 16 games, when he caught 82 passes for 1,310 yards and seven touchdowns.

Williams is making $3.7 million and is in the last year of his contract, which made it difficult to complete a trade. Williams is seeking a big extension. However, the Cowboys could use the franchise tag on him if necessary, which would essentially block him from free agency.

In the off-season, the Cowboys signed Owens to a four-year extension worth $34 million that included a $12.9 million signing bonus.
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ESPN says they are discussing it but Detroit is hesitant, anyone have link with confirmation?

http://www.dallasnews.com/


Right up top.... Only thing out there now, other than radio.
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thats what the ticket reported but something HAS TO BE wrong with that trade.


That's what I was laughing at. No idiot would make that trade.
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Right up top.... Only thing out there now, other than radio.
http://blogs.nfl.com/category/adam-schefter/

nlf.com confirms as well
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1,3,6 round draft picks... WOW!!!!!
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1,3,6 round draft picks... WOW!!!!!


Yeah, the Cowboys gave up too much IMHO.
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I wonder what they are going to do with their jerseys?

Can't put R. Williams. Can't put RO. Williams. I guess one will remain Williams, and the other R. Williams.
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1,3,6 round draft picks... WOW!!!!!
Its a big price..but we need to get Crayton's ass out of the #2 spot. We have a legit #1/#1 with Owens/Roy
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Dallas gave up way too much. They could've traded for Boldin for that much on the table.

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Yeah, the Cowboys gave up too much IMHO.
I'm tempted to agree. Then again, I have no idea what picks they will have left.

I hope this opens things up for TO.
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I'm tempted to agree. Then again, I have no idea what picks they will have left.

I hope this opens things up for TO.
If Owens can't get open now..He needs to GTFO!
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Yeah, the Cowboys gave up too much IMHO.
If the Cowboys win it all this year, would you still feel the same?
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Dallas gave up way too much. They could've traded for Boldin for that much on the table.

REALLY? boldin? I doubt the Cardinals are going to let him go.
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Dallas gave up way too much. They could've traded for Boldin for that much on the table.


Not quite. Arizona took the same position Cincy did with Ocho Cinco. They came out and said they were not entertaining trades. Happy, unhappy, whatever, he's finishing his contract in AZ.
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I wonder what they are going to do with their jerseys?

Can't put R. Williams. Can't put RO. Williams. I guess one will remain Williams, and the other R. Williams.
They will use diffrent numbers to solve the problem is my guess.

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I'm tempted to agree. Then again, I have no idea what picks they will have left.

I hope this opens things up for TO.


Well, if you want to take the optimistic route, here it is.


We knew it would take a first rounder at minimum.

We have a shitload of mid draft picks. Most of them being in the third round. This is a result of the wheeling and dealing Jerry did on Draft Day. So really, a third rounder is nothing to Dallas at this point.

And as for the 6th, VERY few people taken that late become stellar players.


All in all, I guess I'm ok with it. Detroit obviously wasn't backing down. And, Jerry did what needed to be done to get him here. We now have a dual threat at WR, and some pretty decent #3 options.
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what a strange team we have now.

Brad Johnson + o-Line trouble & 2 probowl WRs and a probowl TE
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Dallas gave up way too much. They could've traded for Boldin for that much on the table.

True...Boldin is good but the Cards are in love with him too much.
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Eh, it's all relative. I guess it's not that bad. It's not like we gave up a first, second, and first in the 2010 draft. It could have been worse. Jerry's been known to give up the farm when it's not warranted (See:Patrick Crayton). All in all, it could have been much worse. I'm just happy he'll be here.
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Desperation move anyone??????

Did you see how much they gave up for this guy? Ridiculous move, absolutely ridiculous. Old Jerry Jones is panicking.

Didn't he realize that TO will now be only more vocal about being unhappy.......

It's a risky move, sure there is an upside, but the downside seems far more inevitable...............

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Not quite. Arizona took the same position Cincy did with Ocho Cinco. They came out and said they were not entertaining trades. Happy, unhappy, whatever, he's finishing his contract in AZ.
I doubt AZ denies a 1st, 3rd, & 6th rounder. They were entertaining offers briefly during teh offseason. Noone offered this much.

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what a strange team we have now.

Brad Johnson + o-Line trouble & 2 probowl WRs and a probowl TE

Strange..in a good way. As long as Owens doesn't cry about Roy getting balls from Brad. I'm good, on the bright side we have 2 #1 WR's so if Owens don't like it he can GTFO! and I like Owens but I care about the team as a whole.
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Desperation move anyone??????

Did you see how much they gave up for this guy? Ridiculous move, absolutely ridiculous. Old Jerry Jones is panicking.

Didn't he realize that TO will now be only more vocal about being unhappy.......

It's a risky move, sure there is an upside, but the downside seems far more inevitable...............
Come on Mike..you and I know Roy is Owens replacement. Not a desperate move Crayton's ass is demoted..

I've said it many times today..I like owens but if he doesn't like it he can GTFO!
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Desperation move anyone??????


Really? That's funny. Rumors of trades have been going on since April of last year. I wouldn't call the inevitable "desperation". But that's just me.



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Did you see how much they gave up for this guy? Ridiculous move, absolutely ridiculous. Old Jerry Jones is panicking.
Like I said, it's all relative. When you look at how many third rounders we have, it's not giving up the farm. Too much? Maybe. Desperation would be a first, second, and a first the following year. This is NOT desperation.

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Didn't he realize that TO will now be only more vocal about being unhappy.......

TO isn't a complete idiot. Surely he knows that this is going to open it up for him quite a bit. With an additional true threat, they can no longer double and triple him. He'll get a lot more touches.

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It's a risky move, sure there is an upside, but the downside seems far more inevitable...............


I think TO has matured quite a bit since he's been here. I'm being optimistic, but I believe he realizes, understands, and embraces this move by Dallas. His numbers are only going to get better.
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I doubt AZ denies a 1st, 3rd, & 6th rounder. They were entertaining offers briefly during teh offseason. Noone offered this much.


Yeah, that was during the offseason. When Dallas, as well as others showed interest, AZ told them to take a hike. No trade possible, period.
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We will see Sunday in St. Louis...Roy will have 5 to 8 plays maybe more...O-line has the block though
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We will see Sunday in St. Louis...Roy will have 5 to 8 plays maybe more...O-line has the block though


Shit, you can tune in tonight to hear what he has to say about it. I'll be listening, for sure.


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I can't reply to all that. I am just saying what I see as a NON Cowboys fan. Sure many teams were trying to get Williams, including the Eagles for the same amount of time. Lots of teams were still in the running for Williams until the Boys threw the farm at them.

If Williams is TO's replacement it is a downgrade. I don't like TO a bit, but he is the best in the game at his position. Williams has had 1 good year in the NFL. I don't have any stats, but that's what I remember hearing.

Dallas IMO has their issues in the secondary. Now even worse with Newman still hurt and no one else any good back there.

I see it as a desperation move cause Romo is hurt, a Felix is hurt, punter is gone, and Defense is gonna get drilled on against good teams. The NFC is competitive this year. If the BOYS slip a few games they may never catch up. I know, cause my Birds are in the same spot.

Williams is good, but man he is not worth those amounts of picks. I applaud my Eagles for not throwing the farm at this guy. They need a star receiver, but they have proven before they can win without one........

Time will tell

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On a side note. Who the fuck is going to punt? Folk? Just wondering because they will probably be doing a lot of it the next 2 or 3 games!

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. Williams has had 1 good year in the NFL. I don't have any stats, but that's what I remember hearing.

2007 was his only year in the NFL to play all 16 games. It's not just a coincidence it's been his best year, stat wise. He's been hurt every other season. Now, that is arguable IMO. I'd be "hurt" too, if I played for a team as shitty as Detroit.
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On a side note. Who the fuck is going to punt? Folk? Just wondering because they will probably be doing a lot of it the next 2 or 3 games!


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Shit, you can tune in tonight to hear what he has to say about it. I'll be listening, for sure.


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Reports say Owens was happy about it...the only problem I would see is Owens crying about Roy getting all the ball thrown his way.

But Owens should do well..if they are both open and Romo or Brad see them..Owens will get the ball
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I can't reply to all that. I am just saying what I see as a NON Cowboys fan. Sure many teams were trying to get Williams, including the Eagles for the same amount of time. Lots of teams were still in the running for Williams until the Boys threw the farm at them.

If Williams is TO's replacement it is a downgrade. I don't like TO a bit, but he is the best in the game at his position. Williams has had 1 good year in the NFL. I don't have any stats, but that's what I remember hearing.

Dallas IMO has their issues in the secondary. Now even worse with Newman still hurt and no one else any good back there.

I see it as a desperation move cause Romo is hurt, a Felix is hurt, punter is gone, and Defense is gonna get drilled on against good teams. The NFC is competitive this year. If the BOYS slip a few games they may never catch up. I know, cause my Birds are in the same spot.

Williams is good, but man he is not worth those amounts of picks. I applaud my Eagles for not throwing the farm at this guy. They need a star receiver, but they have proven before they can win without one........

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right...time will tell...but look at what team he was on and look at the QB..Jon "Fuckup" Kinta
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Terrible trade. Jerry is destroying the future to try to get one winning season here. Unfortunately it's going to take MUCH more than another #1 receiver to do that. How about an O-line.. maybe a secondary..
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Terrible trade. Jerry is destroying the future to try to get one winning season here. Unfortunately it's going to take MUCH more than another #1 receiver to do that. How about an O-line.. maybe a secondary..
Someone has some sense.....

I am proud my team didn't go bankrupt for this guy. so to speak.....

Why can't teams realize that recievers are great, but you need a COMPLETE team to win. My Ealges proved over the last 10 years you DO NOT need upper talent in the WR spot. Would I like some, hell yes, LOL. The Patriots proved that before MOSS of course. The Giants had Burress but that's it. The Steelers have Ward and that's it. Gotta have a Defense and a Team chemistry.

I had a good weekend watchin all NFC East teams lose to help out my Eagles. They didn't play great, but they were missing Westbrook again and the Defense tore it up late in the game! McNabb is playing lights out, just needs some assistance

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Good trade but bad timing since romo got hurt.
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