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Well folks, its been announced so lets get the predictions.

* Champ Antonio Rodrigo Nogueira vs. Frank Mir (for interim UFC heavyweight title)
* Champ Forrest Griffin vs. Rashad Evans (for UFC light heavyweight title)
* Quinton Jackson vs. Wanderlei Silva
* C.B. Dollaway vs. Jorge Rivera
* Dean Lister vs. Yushin Okami
* Mustafa Al-Turk vs. Cheick Kongo
* Brad Blackburn vs. Ryo Chonan
* Ivan Serati vs. TBA
1)Mir by way of tko, I will have no one agree probably.
2)Griffin by submission in the second round.
3)C.B. Dollaway, by way of Peruvian neck tie submission in the second.
4)Dean can wrestle with the best of them. Lister by TKO to strikes. He is a veteran and had bad ass hands. 2nd round.
5). Kongo, knock out in the first round.
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post #2 of 34 (permalink) Old 10-12-2008, 06:46 AM
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dean can't wrestle, and he sure can't strike. whereTF did you get your info from?? he wont even be able to get okami to the ground unless okami wants it there.
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Okami is a big 185er. I doubt he'll have a problem with Lister. Mir by TKO??? I agree that Forrest might sub Evans, your other picks are pretty far off.
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hey juiced did you watch exlitexc on showtime friday night? One of our guys fought Bubba McDaniel. I don't know what the hell is going on. Everytime one of the guys gets a show on t.v. we choke. Jason dominated his fight in Canada then gets caught in a submission then Bubba dominates his fight then gets a knee to the ribs(looked like the chest to me). Bubba had his rib broke in another match a while back. He said he got hit in the same area and that is what took him down. Damn these guys are missing out on some big opportunities.
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Man that's one helluva fight card! What ever CB does he'd better watch out for the armbar. Mir will lose and Griffin I hope will have what it takes to get by Evans.
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bubba was kicking ass up until that knee. there was only a few secs left in the round too. it looked pretty damn painful!!
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I bet Mir is shitting bricks right about now.
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I bet Mir is shitting bricks right about now.

Nah, win or lose Mir is too arrogant to be scared. But I do think he will beat Nig Nog by submission. My picks:

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im with the upset griffin to be tko'd by evans! i think the guy is to elusive to lose by anything but a decision so either tko ko or loss by decision

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nog has NEVER been finished and mir will not the one to do it 1st. Did you know that fat piece of shit Roy Nelson tapped out Mir in a grappling tourney?? I can't imagine what Nog would do to him once it goes to the ground. lol

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nog has NEVER been finished and mir will not the one to do it 1st. Did you know that fat piece of shit Roy Nelson tapped out Mir in a grappling tourney?? I can't imagine what Nog would do to him once it goes to the ground. lol

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Mir has good jiu jitsu for a HW, too bad hes fighting the best jiu jitsu HW EVER!!
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If it goes to the ground Mir will not tap Nog.
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nog has NEVER been finished and mir will not the one to do it 1st. Did you know that fat piece of shit Roy Nelson tapped out Mir in a grappling tourney?? I can't imagine what Nog would do to him once it goes to the ground. lol

http://sherdog.com/fighter/Antonio-R...-Nogueira-1440


I personally like Mir and find myself rooting for the guy because of everything he has been through. Unfortuntaly, I don't think he will ever see Mir reach what could have been his potential due to that wreck.

If we've learned anything from the last few years in MMA, you can NEVER say NEVER about these guys because anything can happen. All it takes is one error for an opponent to capitalize on it, Nog is not perfect and Mir is capable of taking advantage if such an opportunity arises.

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nog has NEVER been finished and mir will not the one to do it 1st. Did you know that fat piece of shit Roy Nelson tapped out Mir in a grappling tourney?? I can't imagine what Nog would do to him once it goes to the ground. lol

http://sherdog.com/fighter/Antonio-R...-Nogueira-1440
Did you know that Nog was submitted by fat ass Ricco Rodriguez in ADCC? Barnett almost had him in their first fight too.
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fat ass ricco also won ADCC that year..
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fat ass ricco also won ADCC that year..
Yeah, I'm just saying Nog can be submitted.
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Well folks, its been announced so lets get the predictions.

* Champ Antonio Rodrigo Nogueira vs. Frank Mir (for interim UFC heavyweight title)
* Champ Forrest Griffin vs. Rashad Evans (for UFC light heavyweight title)
* Quinton Jackson vs. Wanderlei Silva
* C.B. Dollaway vs. Jorge Rivera
* Dean Lister vs. Yushin Okami
* Mustafa Al-Turk vs. Cheick Kongo
* Brad Blackburn vs. Ryo Chonan
* Ivan Serati vs. TBA
1)Mir by way of tko, I will have no one agree probably.
2)Griffin by submission in the second round.
3)C.B. Dollaway, by way of Peruvian neck tie submission in the second.
4)Dean can wrestle with the best of them. Lister by TKO to strikes. He is a veteran and had bad ass hands. 2nd round.
5). Kongo, knock out in the first round.
Thats all

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Dont know the other ones.

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Nah, win or lose Mir is too arrogant to be scared. But I do think he will beat Nig Nog by submission. My picks:

Griffin

Jackson

Dollaway

Okami (too bad too, I really like Lister.)

Kongo

Chonan.
I know you dont like him, but you dont have Silva on your list?
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everyone knows I'm a Mir fan, but I just dont' know how he's going to get past Nog

I'm hoping it goes the distance, and Mir wins via decision

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I know you dont like him, but you dont have Silva on your list?

No sir. I picked Jackson for this one.

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Did you know that Nog was submitted by fat ass Ricco Rodriguez in ADCC? Barnett almost had him in their first fight too.
well barnett beat him (Nogeuira) in pride at the heavyweight grandprix in the semi finals. Barnett is a top 3 heavyweight for sure. Mir is not in the class of fighter as barnett, fedor, or nogeuira. Mir is weak IMO . If Mir thinks he can summit any of the brazial top team guys he's in for one hell of a problem.

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well barnett beat him in pride at the heavyweight grandprix in the semi finals. Barnett is a top 3 heavyweight for sure. Mir is not in the class of fighter as barnett, fedor, or nogeuira. Mir is weak IMO . If Mir thinks he can summit any of the brazial top team guys he's in for one hell of a problem.
It can happen. Ricco subbed Nog with a kneebar, if I'm remembering right. Mir is good with leg locks so it could happen. I just don't think it will. Nog can take a beating like no other too so I don't see Mir winning by KO or TKO. You never know though.

Also, Fedor is in a class all by himself.
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yeah but Ricco is in a different league when it comes to grappling compared to Mir

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yeah but Ricco is in a different league when it comes to grappling compared to Mir

Even in his current condition?

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Even in his current condition?
He's on a 5 fight win streak, 3 being submissions, and that's in the last 6 months.

He's been fighting a lot lately trying to get back in shape, and make a comeback

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He's on a 5 fight win streak, 3 being submissions, and that's in the last 6 months.

He's been fighting a lot lately trying to get back in shape, and make a comeback

I had no idea. Last I heard about him he was fighting addiciton and trying to stay out of prison for that wreck he was in. Good for him to turn his life around.

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dean can't wrestle, and he sure can't strike. whereTF did you get your info from?? he wont even be able to get okami to the ground unless okami wants it there.
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OK, your crazy to think that. With that said: http://www.deanlister.com/dean_liste..._grappler.html
If you say he cant grapple or wrestle with anybody, you dont know anything about him. hes also a big 85er. And Okami is not that great IMHO.
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just so you know wrestling and grappling aren't the same... i dont have to look at his website to know his wrestling sux. i have seen plenty of his fights, tuf noob.

his sub grappling is off the hook, but his takedowns leave something to be desired. OKami is HUGE at 185 and has good cardio.. that is something Dean lacks. (cardio).

I think Okami wins by tko. (but i will be rooting for Dean)
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Hey tuf'er let me help you. Watch Deans "takedown," and watch his sub grappling. Both are not one in the same.



With that said, I really wanna see Dean win.


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OK, your crazy to think that. With that said: http://www.deanlister.com/dean_liste..._grappler.html
If you say he cant grapple or wrestle with anybody, you dont know anything about him. hes also a big 85er. And Okami is not that great IMHO.
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I am by far a tuf noob as I have been in on every thread on any of the fights. I have seen probly 95% of all ufc fights one way or another. even if Listers takedowns are crap his submission game will be more then he has to have, I have wrestled with good wrestlers training for a fight. I might have been taken down buit could submit them with ease. I didnt get to finish training or get to fight because I had to come back to Texas . I want to get back into it and get my brown belt, and lose about 60 pounds
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okami is a better wrestler than lister, but lister is a better sub. grappler.. 2 different things.

if okami wants to keep it standing, he will. i think the only way lister gets it to the ground is by pulling guard. he is excellent at that.

Lister either wins with a quick sub or Okami wins by tko/decision. A long fight definitely favors Okami. I will be rooting for Dean, but i truly think Okami will win. Okami's fights arent the most exciting but he gets the job done.

If you remember correctly Okami was next in line to face Anderson Silva a while back but got injured and has been out for almost a year. I think he should be fighting Anderson instead of Patrick Cote...
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okami is a better wrestler than lister, but lister is a better sub. grappler.. 2 different things.

if okami wants to keep it standing, he will. i think the only way lister gets it to the ground is by pulling guard. he is excellent at that.

Lister either wins with a quick sub or Okami wins by tko/decision. A long fight definitely favors Okami. I will be rooting for Dean, but i truly think Okami will win. Okami's fights arent the most exciting but he gets the job done.

If you remember correctly Okami was next in line to face Anderson Silva a while back but got injured and has been out for almost a year. I think he should be fighting Anderson instead of Patrick Cote...
The first time they fought Silva caught him with that massive up kick. I think Dean will do ok with his stand up. Or well I guess I hope he does.

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just so you know wrestling and grappling aren't the same... i dont have to look at his website to know his wrestling sux. i have seen plenty of his fights, tuf noob.

his sub grappling is off the hook, but his takedowns leave something to be desired. OKami is HUGE at 185 and has good cardio.. that is something Dean lacks. (cardio).

I think Okami wins by tko. (but i will be rooting for Dean)
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