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OU & UT headed for a heck of a collision in 10 days

hopefully both avoid overlooking they're opponents this week so we can have a battle of the Big 12's best.

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OU wins easily over UT. 48 - 21.

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OU wins easily over UT. 48 - 21.

I wouldn't count those chickens just yet, Colt McCoy might be the most impressive QB in the Big 12 this year. From a Sooner fan, the Special Teams may bite OU in the ass if they don't shore it up. Texas' secondary is a little young, but so is OU's..........the game at this point, could go either way.
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Havent seen the normal shit talking, that usually fills the board when it comes to College Football.

It was at its finests 3-5 years ago, when you had SVT Venom spewing his garbage, and there was one other guy who lied alot, and was dilusional about the horns. Cant remember his name, but I think he went to jail for child molestation. Oh...it was Hookem.

Anyways, looking forward to a great game, and a fun weekend in Dallas.

I see it being a game similar to last years. Good game, that will be won by 7-12 points.

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horns by 10... Colt mccoy is doing great this year...
He's 80 completions for 100 attempts, 14 thrown TD's 4 TD's for himself and only 1 interception.... He's having a GREAT year.

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He's 80 completions for 100 attempts, 14 thrown TD's 4 TD's for himself and only 1 interception.... He's having a GREAT year...against Popcorn State.
I would have to agree.

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Texas hasnt played anybody, at lease OU played TCU. oh i would shit talk, but i dont like either team and my team lost last week to O'Miss

btw i think OU will win, but not by much, it will be a good game
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I would have to agree.
That really holds no water because in college football it's anyones game. Just because a team is favored to win doesn't mean they will. Look at the USC - Oregon State game. Just cause you don't want to give them credit doesn't mean it's not due. Besides, if you look at the Texas's record against the smaller teams they've had a number of games where they should have blown them out and they didn't.

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Texas hasnt played anybody, at lease OU played TCU. oh i would shit talk, but i dont like either team and my team lost last week to O'Miss

btw i think OU will win, but not by much, it will be a good game
I don't buy the whole "they haven't played anyone" bit... you can lose to a ranked team and a non-ranked team the same way.

Over five thousand years ago, Moses said to the children of Israel, "Pick up your shovel, mount your asses and camels, and I will lead you to the Promised Land." Nearly 75 years ago, Roosevelt said,"Lay down your shovels, sit on your asses, and light up a camel, this is the Promised Land." Now Obama has stolen your shovel..., taxed your asses, raised the price of camels and mortgaged the Promised Land!
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I would have to agree.
Pretty much the same for OU and Bradford, too. I was more interested in the points OU allowed vs. TCU, who is known for their defense...

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OU is going to roll Texas. Double digit win easily.

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Pretty much the same for OU and Bradford, too. I was more interested in the points OU allowed vs. TCU, who is known for their defense...

I'm confused..........is 10 points too many?
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Texas hasnt played anybody, at lease OU played TCU. oh i would shit talk, but i dont like either team and my team lost last week to O'Miss

btw i think OU will win, but not by much, it will be a good game
Everyone cracks me up with the whole "They haven't played anybody" argument at THIS time of the year. Use it at the end of the season. OU has played TCU, and that's it. Personally, I don't think TCU is that great. OU has looked suspect at times this year, and although they won handily, I do remember them struggling for quite a while with a not so good Washington team. Here's the thing you need to know about UT and their schedule -- they did EXACTLY what they were supposed to do and looked great going 4-0 against the spread. They still have to execute regardless of the opponent. The same can be said for OU.

Now, if you asked me to pick a winner and a spread, I'd say the line is OU -8.5 or so. That being said, don't count either team out. Both teams have enough fire power and explosive players that could make it a 3 TD game either direction. Both have outstanding QB's. The difference maker will be if UT can get Bradford out of the pocket where he is much weaker and whether OU can make McCoy stay in the pocket and go upfield -- the area he struggles more as he'd much rather roll out.

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I'm confused..........is 10 points too many?
I stand corrected...Cincinnati.

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I'm more worried about CU right now. The Sooners showed us last year what happens if you overlook the Buffs in Boulder.

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That really holds no water because in college football it's anyones game.
I think it holds plenty of water. I give plenty of credit to Texas this year. They have executed against the competition put in front of them. My comment however, is that Colt McCoys numbers so far, have been against teams whose athletes are a far cry from the competition looming ahead. The spread offense was designed to give teams with less talent, the oppurtunity to get play makers in the open field and create mismatches to play with the big dogs. Well, when the big dogs (texas) run the spread against teams with lesser talent........its all she wrote. Guys running around wide open, and then when they try to make proper adjustments....it leaves the D to play straight up. Meanwhile Colt is runnign the Zone read, and rushing for 60-90 yards a game. (That won't happen against Big 12 teams, because they see the spread offense every damn week)

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OU has looked suspect at times this year, and although they won handily, I do remember them struggling for quite a while with a not so good Washington team.

????

They scored the first 3 times they touched the ball, and had a 34-0 halftime lead. As a fan who attended the game, and one who has now rewatched it several times on DVR...I dont ever remember them ever "struggling" in any way shape or form. I do however remember seeing Washington orchestrate 2 long scoring drives against the 2nd team D, after the Oklahoma starters were on the bench.





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I stand corrected...Cincinnati.
Scored 2 offensive TDs during the game. And 1 TD coming against 2nd/3rd team players, with cincinnati having to call time out with 3 seconds remaining with the ball on the 1 inch line.


So far the total on the season...the Oklahoma Defense has only given up 6 Total TDs. 3 of those were late in the game, against 2nd/3rd team players when the game was grossly out of hand.


Im not saying that Oklahoma is the Greatest team to ever play the game, nor am I saying that they are going to go undefeated this year.....but there is a reason, that this team is rated #1 for the first time since 2003. Its solid in all aspects of the game.


And FYI......That TCU defense is the best Ive seen on a football field, since USC in 2004, or Texas in 2005. They sold out to stop the run against OU...thats the only reason Bradford dropped 400+ yards on them.

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That's why they will just have to get on the field and figure this thing out on their own. All this shit about "Texas hasnt played anybody", or "OU's gonna roll em" really doesn't mean much until the game gets played.

If you're really that stupid to give UT 28 points pre-game, then put your money where your mouth is a set yourself up with an account to place bets online.

(BTW, the spread on the game will be less than 10 anyway if both teams are still undefeated.)

Oh, and CU is +13 against UT this Sat. I'll take it since I think UT wins by 2 TDs on Sat.
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They scored the first 3 times they touched the ball, and had a 34-0 halftime lead. As a fan who attended the game, and one who has now rewatched it several times on DVR...I dont ever remember them ever "struggling" in any way shape or form. I do however remember seeing Washington orchestrate 2 long scoring drives against the 2nd team D, after the Oklahoma starters were on the bench.
My bad, I didn't look at the box scores to refresh my memory. It's the Cincy game that was still close halfway through the 3rd Q. As I stated earlier, I believe they are the best team in the country and ranked where they should be. I also beleive the UT is plenty capable of beating them. That being said, I'd still make them an 8.5 point favorite as I stated. Even if they win, I'd wager that Stoops will ruin it down the line somewhere.

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I think it holds plenty of water. I give plenty of credit to Texas this year. They have executed against the competition put in front of them. My comment however, is that Colt McCoys numbers so far, have been against teams whose athletes are a far cry from the competition looming ahead. The spread offense was designed to give teams with less talent, the oppurtunity to get play makers in the open field and create mismatches to play with the big dogs. Well, when the big dogs (texas) run the spread against teams with lesser talent........its all she wrote. Guys running around wide open, and then when they try to make proper adjustments....it leaves the D to play straight up. Meanwhile Colt is runnign the Zone read, and rushing for 60-90 yards a game. (That won't happen against Big 12 teams, because they see the spread offense every damn week)




????

They scored the first 3 times they touched the ball, and had a 34-0 halftime lead. As a fan who attended the game, and one who has now rewatched it several times on DVR...I dont ever remember them ever "struggling" in any way shape or form. I do however remember seeing Washington orchestrate 2 long scoring drives against the 2nd team D, after the Oklahoma starters were on the bench.







Scored 2 offensive TDs during the game. And 1 TD coming against 2nd/3rd team players, with cincinnati having to call time out with 3 seconds remaining with the ball on the 1 inch line.


So far the total on the season...the Oklahoma Defense has only given up 6 Total TDs. 3 of those were late in the game, against 2nd/3rd team players when the game was grossly out of hand.


Im not saying that Oklahoma is the Greatest team to ever play the game, nor am I saying that they are going to go undefeated this year.....but there is a reason, that this team is rated #1 for the first time since 2003. Its solid in all aspects of the game.


And FYI......That TCU defense is the best Ive seen on a football field, since USC in 2004, or Texas in 2005. They sold out to stop the run against OU...thats the only reason Bradford dropped 400+ yards on them.
TCU was supposed to be something last year, too, and went 7-5. Either you don't watch a lot of football, or you're giving TCU too much credit for their defense. The best defense in 3 or 4 years in the whole country?

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I'm more worried about CU right now. The Sooners showed us last year what happens if you overlook the Buffs in Boulder.
that's what I was getting at, CU is no slouch(especially at home)& hopefully OU remembers not to overlook a decent Baylor team.
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Unless you are an assistant coach that, my friend, is a complete waste of time.

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UT has it by 10!! McCoy is on fire this year.

and Bradford isn't?


Don't forget, OU's still has it's best weapon available, Mack Brown.
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and Bradford isn't?


Don't forget, OU's still has it's best weapon available, Mack Brown.
But Mack Brown doesnt choke in BCS games.
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TCU was supposed to be something last year, too, and went 7-5. Either you don't watch a lot of football, or you're giving TCU too much credit for their defense. The best defense in 3 or 4 years in the whole country?

I wouldn't go that far. However, going in to last week TCU had the #1 ranked defense in the nation, and OU still hung 35 on them. You can't argue facts.
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McCoy's stats are misleading. He usually decides who he'll throw it to before the play starts, so if they are covered (which happens when the competition is good), he'll either force it or hold the ball too long (it's a fumble!). If you watch him play, he rarely gets beyond the first read. I'm a Longhorns fan but I'm just being realistic and, oh yeah, UT by a gazillion. I hope the horse pulling the sooner schooner gets spooked by all the UT cannon fire and runs wild down the UO sidelines and up into the stands trampling lots of okies.

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I was waiting on you hahah. I figured you would be the first person in this thread talking shit. Im so dissapointed Brent!

Im not betting cause every game i have bet on that should have won ended up loosing. I lost to the boys last week.

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TCU was supposed to be something last year, too, and went 7-5. Either you don't watch a lot of football, or you're giving TCU too much credit for their defense. The best defense in 3 or 4 years in the whole country?

Thats exactly what I think. I not only WATCH football, but I attend every game, home and away. TCU has the best gap strength defense, and the best rush defense that I have seen in many years. And much to the dismay of another poster..I have watched the OU/TCU game again twice on DVR, and the y are very impressive on Defense. But they sold out against the run, and had 8-9 players in the box, leaving someon open down field. They held Oklahoma to its lowest rushing total in 6 seasons.

Sam Bradford also commented, that he has never been hit so many times, than he was against TCU.

How good was TCU last year? I dont know...because they werent an opponant so I didnt follow them. How good is their entire team? Im not 100% sure. But ther defense is the best Ou has played since 05' Texas


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Unless you are an assistant coach that, my friend, is a complete waste of time.

Let me guess... the outcome was always the same.
Its something I enjoy doing. No harm. But it also gives me an oppurtunity to see things, and have an intellectual opinion on what is actually going on during the game. I guess I dont watch football like the average fan. I watch the game with a coaching mindset, always looking at formations, personel, and coverages. Knowing what teams tendencies are before the play, and seeing how the offensive or defensive coaches adjust is what I enjoy about football. Thats why it pisses me off, when most of the silly fucks spew at teh mouth about this or that, and really have no clue what they're talking about. Other than what they see on Sportscenter.

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McCoy's stats are misleading. He usually decides who he'll throw it to before the play starts, so if they are covered (which happens when the competition is good), he'll either force it or hold the ball too long (it's a fumble!). If you watch him play, he rarely gets beyond the first read. I'm a Longhorns fan but I'm just being realistic and, oh yeah, UT by a gazillion. I hope the horse pulling the sooner schooner gets spooked by all the UT cannon fire and runs wild down the UO sidelines and up into the stands trampling lots of okies.


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TCU had the #1 defense, so does that mean Okie St. ACTUALLY has the #1 ranked rushing offense?
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OU by 17 and McCoy gets gets hurt at least once during the game and has to come out of the game for at least a play.

The Baylor QB scares me. The OU defense always seems to have trouble with the QB that can get out of the pocket and really run, and that Baylor QB sure as hell can do that.


so you're saying Colt can't get out of the pocket and run? I'm just making sure
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really? maybe you should stop working on cars saturdays and start watching more football.


Sounds like he was watching last year. I've got to give it to UT at this point. I predicted Colt to have another disappointing season stat wise, like last year. I also thought the young DBs they have would be giving them a lot of trouble. So far, they've looked pretty impressive. True, they haven't really played anyone yet. But neither has OU (except TCU, #1 D).
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Sounds like he was watching last year. I've got to give it to UT at this point. I predicted Colt to have another disappointing season stat wise, like last year. I also thought the young DBs they have would be giving them a lot of trouble. So far, they've looked pretty impressive. True, they haven't really played anyone yet. But neither has OU (except TCU, #1 D).


I'd give this to the DB's, they're improving each game so far with less mistakes. They haven't played much but they have played passing teams, so at least they're getting a workout back their. Next weekend we'll all see how well they've come along. I'm just glad this year UT isn't waiting 'til AFTER the OU game to get the best guys out on the field.
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Sounds like he was watching last year. I've got to give it to UT at this point. I predicted Colt to have another disappointing season stat wise, like last year. I also thought the young DBs they have would be giving them a lot of trouble. So far, they've looked pretty impressive. True, they haven't really played anyone yet. But neither has OU (except TCU, #1 D).
His stats are among the best in the country.

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OU by 17 and McCoy gets gets hurt at least once during the game and has to come out of the game for at least a play.

The Baylor QB scares me. The OU defense always seems to have trouble with the QB that can get out of the pocket and really run, and that Baylor QB sure as hell can do that.
McCoy has 300 yards rushing so far. Will OU have trouble with him?

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really? maybe you should stop working on cars saturdays and start watching more football.
Take off the burnt orange tinted glasses. Colt's ball security was poor last year because of what I stated. I've watched all the games this year and payed particular attention to his QB play hoping that he would have improved this part of his game and he hasn't shown it yet. Fortunately, he's further improved his strength so maybe he'll be able to hold on to the ball when he decides to hold it too long because the guy he decided to throw the ball to before the snap is covered. The Colorado game should give a better indication on his progress.

Hopefully, I'm wrong and he hits the second and third options against UO and the 'horns wipe the field with their sorry asses.

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His stats are among the best in the country.
I think he's talking about last year's stats.

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