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Best owner in ProSports.....

Do you think that Jerry Jones is the best owner in Professional Sports?

After listening to him talk about the devastating loss to the Giants, I truly believe that he cares about the fans of the Dallas Cowboys and is one of the biggest fans of his team that there is. I know alot of people think that Cuban is great, but Cuban doesn't handle himself as well as Jerry does after a loss like this. Plus, you never hear Jerry bellyache about bad officiating.
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I don't know if I would say he is the best but I will give him credit on some accounts. He def. cares more about winning/quality of product put out on the field than 95% of owners out there. IMO he isn't the best simply because he has had periods of time not being able to win and refused to completely rebuild and simply will go for a quick fix even if it can hurt more than help.
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He would sell his soul to win at anything. He's an excellent busniessman though.

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He's a successful owner, but not the best.

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Jerry Jones is the main reason I hate the Cowboys. He's a good business man, and has done some good things for the league, but it's an evil motherfucker who will sell his soul (and already has) to win.

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maybe I am just naive, but how exactly did his he sell his soul? i would much rather have an owner who has confidence in his team, has the will and ability to try and make his team better, and also the humility to bring in a coach with an ego even bigger than his to mold his team into a championship contender...unlike, say Tom Hicks, who BSs us every year about the Rangers and their hopeless chance to be in the race after 3 weeks of the season
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Ask the lifelong season ticket holder who is about to have to give up his tickets because he can't afford the new ticket prices.
Was it 7 or 8 years ago that Owens stood on the star and disrespected the organization and the fans? and he brings him in? Cowboy fans are delusional. Jones doesn't give 2 shits about the fans. He cares about money, the more he can make, the better.
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He would sell his soul to win at anything. He's an excellent busniessman though.
isnt that what your looking for in a owner? isnt he doing it in the sake of winning.

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Ask the lifelong season ticket holder who is about to have to give up his tickets because he can't afford the new ticket prices.
Was it 7 or 8 years ago that Owens stood on the star and disrespected the organization and the fans? and he brings him in? Cowboy fans are delusional. Jones doesn't give 2 shits about the fans. He cares about money, the more he can make, the better.
Owens used to be an arrogant, selfish asshole. He's lost some of the arrogance and has showed he's become a team player.

I don't give a shit if Jones doesn't care about me, as a fan. I want to see the Cowboys win, and if he's putting together a team that wins, I don't really care what his motivation is.


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Jerry Jones revolutionized NFL marketing and sports markting in general. He opened revenue streams that no owner had ever thought of.
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"__________the official ________ of the Dallas Cowboys". Every owner is sports copied that from Jones.

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Ask the lifelong season ticket holder who is about to have to give up his tickets because he can't afford the new ticket prices.


That's asinine. All you people that think tickets are suddenly going to jump from $1000 a seat to $35k a seat, are fucking morons. Yes, there are going to be *some* very expensive seats. The media is planting this shit in people's heads, because sheeple will believe anything they hear. Give me a fucking break. It ain't gonna happen.


But if you really think they are going to fill that stadium of 80k seats, at $35k a pop; you're on some damn good shit.


My seat was $650 this year. $590 the previous year. Next year will be in the $800 range. New stadium will be somewhere around $1200 a seat, for something similar to what I have now.
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maybe I am just naive, but how exactly did his he sell his soul?


He didn't. People will just find any reason to hate on the Cowboys, and that's exactly what they are doing. My guess is, that most of them are jealous he isn't the owner of the team they are fans of. He's done more for the sport than any other owner in history, period. Hate him all you want. But football (as a business/industry) wouldn't be what it is today with out him.
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That's asinine. All you people that think tickets are suddenly going to jump from $1000 a seat to $35k a seat, are fucking morons. Yes, there are going to be *some* very expensive seats. The media is planting this shit in people's heads, because sheeple will believe anything they hear. Give me a fucking break. It ain't gonna happen.


But if you really think they are going to fill that stadium of 80k seats, at $35k a pop; you're on some damn good shit.


My seat was $650 this year. $590 the previous year. Next year will be in the $800 range. New stadium will be somewhere around $1200 a seat, for something similar to what I have now.

My source isn't the media Brent. We'll see.
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My source isn't the media Brent. We'll see.


Think about it, Stephen. Who do you know that's got enough money laying around to shell out $35k a seat. I know a few folks that will pay that, but there aren't 80,000 of them. That would be the emptiest stadium in the country every single Sunday during football season.
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That's asinine. All you people that think tickets are suddenly going to jump from $1000 a seat to $35k a seat, are fucking morons. Yes, there are going to be *some* very expensive seats. The media is planting this shit in people's heads, because sheeple will believe anything they hear. Give me a fucking break. It ain't gonna happen.


But if you really think they are going to fill that stadium of 80k seats, at $35k a pop; you're on some damn good shit.


My seat was $650 this year. $590 the previous year. Next year will be in the $800 range. New stadium will be somewhere around $1200 a seat, for something similar to what I have now.
And you're ok with close to a 100% increase? Now who's the sheeple?

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And you're ok with close to a 100% increase? Now who's the sheeple?


Sure I am. My tickets are cheap to begin with. To go to a new stadium, with all new amenities, etc; I'll gladly pay. I mean really. I paid $650 for 10 games. That's pretty damn cheap, no matter how you look at it. $1200 for 10 games ain't bad at all.


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isnt that what your looking for in a owner? isnt he doing it in the sake of winning.
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It's funny that Dallas people love Mark Cuban for being exactly what they've always incorrectly accused Jerry Jones of being and hated him for.

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It's funny that Dallas people love Mark Cuban for being exactly what they've always incorrectly accused Jerry Jones of being and hated him for.
I think people in Dallas love Cuban more for coming across as an emotional fan, much like themselves. Jones comes across as a businessman more.
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Mario Lemieux is one of the best pro team owners

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but it's an evil motherfucker who will sell his soul (and already has) to win.
Isn't the point of sports to win? No matter what?

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Ask the lifelong season ticket holder who is about to have to give up his tickets because he can't afford the new ticket prices.

Everyone needs to fucking calm down about this shit. My dad said the exact same damn thing in 1971. He was a season ticket holder at the Cotton Bowl.

The amount of money he would have had to put down for seating rights in 1971 was nearly twice the amount he paid for his '69 GTO Judge.

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Mario Lemieux is one of the best pro team owners

Jerry Jones is a businessman, and a damn good one.
Super Mario isn't even the best owner in hockey. He had a team that for an extended period could not get a new arena and has been directly helped by being so bad for 7 years.
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What constitutes "best owner"?
By putting a desirable product on the field.
By having a passion to be the best
By taking the desire of his team's fans to heart
Doing whatever it takes to make his team a winner
Being classy enough to not make a fool of himself, yet at the same time not take him self so serious that he gets offended when someone talks about him

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Super Mario isn't even the best owner in hockey. He had a team that for an extended period could not get a new arena and has been directly helped by being so bad for 7 years.
The problem with the Penguins is the lease on Mellon Arena. The city of Pittsburgh is fucking up the Penguins moreso than Lemieux ever has. I think Lemieux is a good owner, but he can only do so much for the team in that building and with the salary cap.
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The problem with the Penguins is the lease on Mellon Arena. The city of Pittsburgh is fucking up the Penguins moreso than Lemieux ever has. I think Lemieux is a good owner, but he can only do so much for the team in that building and with the salary cap.

So much in fact, that Lemieux was looking to relocate the team. I don't blame Mario for the problems, he saved that team from bankruptcy. I doubt that team would still be around if it weren't for him.
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So much in fact, that Lemieux was looking to relocate the team. I don't blame Mario for the problems, he saved that team from bankruptcy. I doubt that team would still be around if it weren't for him.
I am not saying that it is fault but the situation has not changed much. An owner that is looking to relocate a team is only doing so because he can not make the team a success in the city they are in. If you want to see a successful owner in the NHL look no where else than Mike Illitch in Detroit.
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....Speaking of his own investment, Lemieux said: ''I forgave the company $7.5 million, I took $20 million in debt and put in $5 million of my own money on top of that. That's how much I believe in this franchise. I've been involved with this franchise for 15 years. I believe in this city....

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By putting a desirable product on the field.
By having a passion to be the best
By taking the desire of his team's fans to heart
Doing whatever it takes to make his team a winner
Being classy enough to not make a fool of himself, yet at the same time not take him self so serious that he gets offended when someone talks about him

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Jerry Reinsdorf, partial owner of the Bulls and White Sox. 7 championship rings in two sports.

Cuban comes to mind but we'll see over the years.

Jerry Buss of the Lakers comes to mind. Eight NBA championships, his WNBA team owned two championships (before he sold it in 2006) He's also a decent poker player so I gotta love him.

But, for me, bottom line the best owner in sports was Wellngton Mara of the Giants (deceased now). Mara was willing to share TV revenue with smaller markets in the NFL back in the 60s that allowed the NFL to grow to what it is today. Most definetly his contribution to the NFL is something fans from any team should appreciate. He could have been a dick and kept all the money but he realized back then the NFL needed to grow up and he was willing to forgo his revenue to allow the NFL to grow and mature.

Back in the 60s, he held the largest TV market with the Giants.

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And Cuban is a far-left liberal dipshit that doesn't know his head from his ass.
But, he can dance with the stars.

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And Cuban is a far-left liberal dipshit that doesn't know his head from his ass.
Yea, the fucker doesn't know a damn thing. I mean he bought a pro sports team for cash and has more than doubled his original investment.

What a dipshit.

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Jerry Reinsdorf, partial owner of the Bulls and White Sox. 7 championship rings in two sports.

Cuban comes to mind but we'll see over the years.

Jerry Buss of the Lakers comes to mind. Eight NBA championships, his WNBA team owned two championships (before he sold it in 2006) He's also a decent poker player so I gotta love him.

But, for me, bottom line the best owner in sports was Wellngton Mara of the Giants (deceased now). Mara was willing to share TV revenue with smaller markets in the NFL back in the 60s that allowed the NFL to grow to what it is today. Most definetly his contribution to the NFL is something fans from any team should appreciate. He could have been a dick and kept all the money but he realized back then the NFL needed to grow up and he was willing to forgo his revenue to allow the NFL to grow and mature.

Back in the 60s, he held the largest TV market with the Giants.
Lamar Hunt? THAT dude was ahead of is time. He was also an original investor in the Chicago Bulls, I think he got a decent ROI there.
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Lamar Hunt? THAT dude was ahead of is time. He was also an original investor in the Chicago Bulls, I think he got a decent ROI there.
Forgot about Lamar... don't know how. He would certainly be in the top 2 or 3 of all-time sports owners! Thanks for reminding me.

Supposedly the NFL allowed the Cowboys franchise specifically to compete against the AFL's Dallas Texans, which Lamar owned when he started the AFL with a few other rich dudes.

I don't think of Hunt when I think of the Bulls... I think of Jerry Reinsdorf.

But Lamar had a huge impact on the NFL to the extent someone like Mara did. If Lamar didn't "fight the power" back in the 60s when the NFL told him no to a franchise the AFL wouldn't have gotten off the ground.

Hell, anytime you have an NFL trophy named after you, you must have been good. haha.

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I wouldn't say the best. Although, he is a great owner and knows how to keep the dough rolling.
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But, he can dance with the stars.

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post #46 of 46 (permalink) Old 01-20-2008, 12:33 AM
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Originally Posted by LannyN9NE
I am not saying that it is fault but the situation has not changed much. An owner that is looking to relocate a team is only doing so because he can not make the team a success in the city they are in. If you want to see a successful owner in the NHL look no where else than Mike Illitch in Detroit.
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