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post #1 of 50 (permalink) Old 01-14-2008, 07:26 PM Thread Starter
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Was a bet made?

Please read the read the following link and post up your opinion if a bet was made between myself and kenny c. This one isnt as cut and dry as the Bones situation, but it was a bet as far as I am concernced and I would have paid if I lost. The SX thing is the confounder here as I didnt realize that the race had already been run when I replied Sunday morning. I understand Kennys point in that I did not reply with an "official acceptance of the bet" and therefore he is not obligated to pay, however, I thought we had a gentlemans agreement. Thanks. I think my betting days are done on here as it is my experience that only half the site is trustworthy.

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I would have to disagree in this situation. You agreed to the initial bet after the race had taken place but never formally stated that you would take the NY +8 bet. I can see where there could have definitely been some confusion in this one.





Just my .02

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Should I have to officially accept it? My previous reply was an acceptance of his terms regardless of the outcome of the SX race. His reply was not an offer of a bet. He states that he will pass on the SX bet but he will give me the Giants and 8pts. The fact that I accepted his terms previously should show my intentions.
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I read that thread earlier today and although I see your side of it, at first read it seemd as though you responded a little too late for the SX bet and I didn't notice a definite agreement on the Giants Cowboys game either.

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Should I have to officially accept it? My previous reply was an acceptance of his terms regardless of the outcome of the SX race. His reply was not an offer of a bet. He states that he will pass on the SX bet but he will give me the Giants and 8pts. The fact that I accepted his terms previously should show my intentions.
I understand where you're coming from but you were adamant from the beginning about NY +10. From an outsider looking in I would say there was not bet.
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After reading the thread again it definitely looked like a bet was made in this post


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Uh.. they already raced... so I will pass on that.

However, I will give you the Giants +8 for $50.

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I guess it just boils down to whether or not Kenny believes a bet was made...and according to his PM, he doesnt. I am not too worried about this one as it is a bit ambiguous. I guess I am a little upset since I believed that a bet was made and had every intention of paying if I lost....otherwise, I wouldnt even have made this thread. And I didnt ask him for the money...just a double or nothing bet on this weekends SX race and he had first pick.
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I understand where you're coming from but you were adamant from the beginning about NY +10. From an outsider looking in I would say there was not bet.


But, that is thrown out the window when I agreed to lesser terms...9pts at most I would get and 7pts at the least depending on the SX outcome.
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Looks like 2 for, 2 against...
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I understand where you're coming from but you were adamant from the beginning about NY +10. From an outsider looking in I would say there was not bet.
I agree..

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Do you think you'd be scrutinizing this as much if Bones didn't fuck you over? Just something to consider.

oh, and no bet imo.
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I should have never bet on a forum with a bunch of sketchy ass motherfuckers over the internet as it is.
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Well... hell yea.
Upon further review I change my mind like a little bitch.

I thought we were still talking about Bones and I didn't read the thread. After reading the thread I decided to remove my head from my ass and read the linked thread.

No confirmation, no bet.

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Do you think you'd be scrutinizing this as much if Bones didn't fuck you over? Just something to consider.

oh, and no bet imo.

Point taken, but the answer is that this has nothing to do with the Bones incident. If the majority agree that no bet was made then I am agreeable to that as well. So far it appears to be headed that direction. In the future I guess I need to be a little more specific.
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Upon further review I change my mind like a little bitch.

I thought we were still talking about Bones and I didn't read the thread. After reading the thread I decided to remove my head from my ass and read the linked thread.

No confirmation, no bet.


LMAO you asshat. Looks like I am SOL.
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lol...like my friend above.....after actually reading all the way through, there was no *e-handshake*, so no bet.

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I think my betting days are done on here as it is my experience that only half the site is trustworthy.
I bet* they're not.

* It can't really be considered a bet if nothing has been wagered. Can it?


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Sorry Dave, but it wasn't confirmed, so no bet...
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ok...Kenny, you win this one. Lucky you moved to Az or I would have to put you over a berm.
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Point taken, but the answer is that this has nothing to do with the Bones incident. If the majority agree that no bet was made then I am agreeable to that as well. So far it appears to be headed that direction. In the future I guess I need to be a little more specific.

There's the key. If your going to bet on the board know who your betting with or bet @ your own risk. Both parties also need to make it known without a shadow of a dobut that they are both agreeable with the bet that's on the table. If someone is willing to make a public bet and not own up afterwards they need to be run off anyways.


From now on each party needs to forward the bet to my paypal account and I hold cash and then pay the winner
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Sorry Dave, but it wasn't confirmed, so no bet...


What if you take it as him confirming the bet with me by saying he will give (not offer) me NYG +8?
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There's the key. If your going to bet on the board know who your betting with or bet @ your own risk. Both partie also need to make it know without a shadow of a dobut that they are both agreeable with the bet that's on the table. If someone is willing to make a public bet and not own up afterwards they need to be run off anyways.


From now on each party needs to forward the bet to my paypal account and I hold cash and then pay the winner

After your 20% cut eh?
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After your 20% cut eh?

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What if you take it as him confirming the bet with me by saying he will give (not offer) me NYG +8?
In my opinion he offered you the Giants and 8, and without confirmation by you before gametime the bet is null. So I feel it was an attempted bet (is that even possible??) but nothing concrete. Bones should pay though...and the juice is running!

Get to the windows before they close, or just watch the pretty horses.
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I am really surprised that someone who has been on here since 2002 (Bones) would welch on a bet like that. As far as this bet with Kenny...there is enough of a doubt that I will just forget about this one. Even though I still think I am right.
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Yeah, I say no confirmation, no bet. It is close, but that's my opinion. I like the fact that in the dfwstangs board member fight thread, Seb is replying to all bet offers with, "Lock it in if you really want it." Just helps to clarify things.
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I like the fact that in the dfwstangs board member fight thread, Seb is replying to all bet offers with, "Lock it in if you really want it." Just helps to clarify things.
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Hey guys... I made the offer and David could not get to his computer to accept but his intentions were to accept, so I will honor the bet.

I'm down $50. David offered me a double or nothing bet, which I might accept. Either way he is up $50 and I will send it or make the double down. It is David's call.

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Hey guys... I made the offer and David could not get to his computer to accept but his intentions were to accept, so I will honor the bet.

I'm down $50. David offered me a double or nothing bet, which I might accept. Either way he is up $50 and I will send it or make the double down. It is David's call.

I'd say it was questionable, but stepping up to pay regardless is an honorable move. At least you aren't a spineless broke dick welcher like Bones.
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ok...Kenny, you win this one. Lucky you moved to Az or I would have to put you over a berm.
that would be way too easy with my slow a$$...

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Hey guys... I made the offer and David could not get to his computer to accept but his intentions were to accept, so I will honor the bet.

I'm down $50. David offered me a double or nothing bet, which I might accept. Either way he is up $50 and I will send it or make the double down. It is David's call.
That's pretty badass.

IMO, you almost have to be silly with the overconfirmations of any bets made here. Since you aren't in person to shake on it, both parties need to confirm and make it obvious to everyone in the thread that a sure bet is made. get rid of any doubt whatsoever. That didn't happen in this case, but it's cool that kenny wants to pay it anyway.
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Hey guys... I made the offer and David could not get to his computer to accept but his intentions were to accept, so I will honor the bet.

I'm down $50. David offered me a double or nothing bet, which I might accept. Either way he is up $50 and I will send it or make the double down. It is David's call.
Commendable...I would have said that the bet wasn't confirmed, but way to step up...
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Hey guys... I made the offer and David could not get to his computer to accept but his intentions were to accept, so I will honor the bet.

I'm down $50. David offered me a double or nothing bet, which I might accept. Either way he is up $50 and I will send it or make the double down. It is David's call.
Stand up thing to do, even though I would say no e-handshake was given, he was offering and you countered, he didn't reply, so technically no bet was made before kickoff, even though there was good intentionson both sides, the windows were closed...'H'

Oh and on the Bones welch, the juice is still running...
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Yeah, I haven't met David face to face but we're on another board together and we each know some of the same guys in FL... I have heard about David's "mediacal procedures" inside his trailer...

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Stand up thing to do, even though I would say no e-handshake was given, he was offering and you countered, he didn't reply, so technically no bet was made before kickoff, even though there was good intentionson both sides, the windows were closed...'H'

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Yeah, I haven't met David face to face but we're on another board together and we each know some of the same guys in FL... I have heard about David's "mediacal procedures" inside his trailer...

LMAO...sick fucker.
I appreciate your honesty as this is what I would have done if I had lost. Double or nothing it is this weekend. You pick your winner. I will take either Reed or Stewart depending on who you take...and if neither win, you owe me nothing. So you can win two ways. How are the tracks over there in Az? There is a guy that I talk to on TT that lives in Phoenix and rides. You should hook up with him. I will have to look up his SN for you.

So, I have had several PMs offering to get my money from Bones one way or another. Obviously I am not gonna condone violence, but I cannot control what others do.
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LMAO...sick fucker.
I appreciate your honesty as this is what I would have done if I had lost. Double or nothing it is this weekend. You pick your winner. I will take either Reed or Stewart depending on who you take...and if neither win, you owe me nothing. So you can win two ways. How are the tracks over there in Az? There is a guy that I talk to on TT that lives in Phoenix and rides. You should hook up with him. I will have to look up his SN for you.

So, I have had several PMs offering to get my money from Bones one way or another. Obviously I am not gonna condone violence, but I cannot control what others do.

AZ tracks are the exact opposite of what I rode in FL (for the most part)... Usually I had to pick a line going up a jump face and hope I didn't hit a kicker, but in AZ it's hard pack and the jump face is like a freeway on ramp. I need to setup my suspension for my fat ass, but I think I will like AZ tracks better once I get some appropriate tires and figure out my suspension. I've only ridden speedworld and etmotopark but both have multiple tracks. I'm actually going to try the WORCS race this Sat... I hope I can ride for an 1:15

As for the bet... I guess I will take Stewart.

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Sounds good...you will likely win unless he crashes again. Post some pics of the Az tracks.
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kenny c... stand up guy.

Hell, I'll let you come over to my house and fuck my sister. If I had one. Will my little brother (6' 4" 280lbs) do?

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Not at all. As far as I know my little bro' is hetero. But it is very infrequently that you find such a stand up guy, so I'll sacrifice my younger brother.

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Stand up thing to do, even though I would say no e-handshake was given, he was offering and you countered, he didn't reply, so technically no bet was made before kickoff, even though there was good intentionson both sides, the windows were closed...'H'

Oh and on the Bones welch, the juice is still running...

True true true...


Kenny is definitely showing himself to be a stand up guy in paying up considering the facts. Now if that loser bones would take a lesson...
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Sounds good...you will likely win unless he crashes again. Post some pics of the Az tracks.
David... Stewart is out for the season. I will just send you the $50 unless we can come up with something else.

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I lost the double up ...

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I appreciate the honesty Kendall. Want NE and I will take NYG and the spread for that $100?
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