Hell, most UFC fighters can't fight a good pride fighter for conditioning alone, considering the first round alone is 10 minutes. And for those saying Shogun is only good on the ground, he beat Rampage standing in the corner.Jackson hits hard and there were several punches Shogun absorbed on the way in to the clinch. That's the kind of guy who can beat a striker, even standing. UFC is really not representative of all MMA in the world, because they are bringing select people from around the world. For Spike and UFC, it's still about the money, not only true promotion of the sport. There are peole all over the country that have been involved in MMA, full contact, judo, ju jistsu, (whatever you like) since they were 5 or 6 years old. Unlike alot of UFC fighters who have been in it 5 or 6 years. Kinda like someone calling Mauricio Shogun a "No Namer"!!