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BCS Top and their respective ending schedules

The ranking system consists of some these major components,
1. Compilation of Standings
2. Polls
3. Computer Rankings
4. schedule strength


Then we look at the remaining schedules and teams have a chance to move around a little within the top 5. I wonder just how clear this BCS bowl series will look and if anyone will be setting out of the BCS games who has an undefeated record.



Texas

Oklahoma State
Baylor
Kansas
Texas A&M

USC

Washington State
Stanford
No. 24 California
No. 22 Fresno State
No. 8 UCLA

VA Tech

No. 13 Boston College
No. 6 Miami
Virginia
North Carolina

Georgia

No. 16 Florida
No. 19 Auburn
Kentucky
Georgia Tech

Bama

Utah State
Mississippi St.
No. 7 LSU
No. 19 Auburn
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All of those teams will play in a BCS game if undefeated by year end.

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All of those teams will play in a BCS game if undefeated by year end.
One would hope so.
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the spread between VT & UT will get pretty close by years end, but if UT & SC win out, they go to the Rose Bowl without a doubt.
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All of those teams will play in a BCS game if undefeated by year end.
Would be tough for Bama and Georgia to finish undefeated since they are in the SEC.
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Would be tough for Bama and Georgia to finish undefeated since they are in the SEC.
would be impossible since they'd play in the sec championship. and it's very possible that va tech will lose a game. i think they're vulnerable, they have a couple tough opponents left, and an ACC championship game
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the spread between VT & UT will get pretty close by years end, but if UT & SC win out, they go to the Rose Bowl without a doubt.
I think some people are having a hard time realizing this concept. Let's discuss some more.

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the spread between VT & UT will get pretty close by years end, but if UT & SC win out, they go to the Rose Bowl without a doubt.
That is where I disagree I think given the fact that the BCS is controlled by several different factors and schedule strength is what got Texas into the number 1 slot this week it may put Texas out of number 1 or 2 if both USC and Va Tech win out. Texas beat the number 7 team in the nation and moved to number 1 if Va Tech knocks off the number 6 and number 13 teams it could very well be enough to push them past Texas in the rankings. USC also has a number 8 and two top 25 programs left on their schedule they are a shoe in for number 1 if they win out. Then if you look at the ACC and Big 12 Championship games Texas will end up playing either Colorado or Missouri niether currently ranked but may be at seasons end. VA Tech will face Florida State or Boston both will be ranked at seasons end no doubt, most likely Florida St. who is currently ranked 10th in the Nation. So what are you hoping keeps Texas ahead of Tech can only be a loss by Tech not a duel till the end because if both win out they will have the same record the points on the polls are close and the main difference will come down to strength of schedule where Tech clearly has the advantage.
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VA Tech will get beat. USC still scares me, but they are not as strong as they were last year (thank God!). A lot can still happen, and I'd rather see UT @ #2 at this point. It's a different mind-set sitting in the 2 spot. You're a little hungrier with something to prove.

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That is where I disagree I think given the fact that the BCS is controlled by several different factors and schedule strength is what got Texas into the number 1 slot this week it may put Texas out of number 1 or 2 if both USC and Va Tech win out. Texas beat the number 7 team in the nation and moved to number 1 if Va Tech knocks off the number 6 and number 13 teams it could very well be enough to push them past Texas in the rankings. USC also has a number 8 and two top 25 programs left on their schedule they are a shoe in for number 1 if they win out. Then if you look at the ACC and Big 12 Championship games Texas will end up playing either Colorado or Missouri niether currently ranked but may be at seasons end. VA Tech will face Florida State or Boston both will be ranked at seasons end no doubt, most likely Florida St. who is currently ranked 10th in the Nation. So what are you hoping keeps Texas ahead of Tech can only be a loss by Tech not a duel till the end because if both win out they will have the same record the points on the polls are close and the main difference will come down to strength of schedule where Tech clearly has the advantage.

The polls points are alot further than you are giving credit for.

If the human votes stay the same (which they most always do esp in a season with a preseason 1&2 going undefeated) then VTech would have to practically sweep the computer polls and Texas would have to be ranked at an avg of 20.5 which is highly unlikely. Considering UT will prob blow out every game left on thier schedule it will leave the voters wanting a marque offensive and defensive powerhouse USC vs. UT title game. (All things considered up this point obviously)

If the human polls don't budge and USC/Georgia/VTech/Texas/Ala/UCLA all split up the computer polls then VTech won't mathmatically be able to pass Texas.
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virginia tech will not go undefeated, they're very vulnerable. anyone watch the maryland game??? they're in for a tough battle tonight too.
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If the human polls don't budge and USC/Georgia/VTech/Texas/Ala/UCLA all split up the computer polls then VTech won't mathmatically be able to pass Texas.
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without Shockley, georga goes down to florida saturday. with shockley they beat bama in the sec championship game, if lsu doesn't beat bama first. Va Tech will lose tonight or against miami. so you see, i'm not worried.


Besides, the only people keeping texas out of the rose bowl, assuming they go undeated, is texas themselves.


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without Shockley, georga goes down to florida saturday. with shockley they beat bama in the sec championship game, if lsu doesn't beat bama first. Va Tech will lose tonight or against miami. so you see, i'm not worried.


Besides, the only people keeping texas out of the rose bowl, assuming they go undeated, is texas themselves.


there, end of conversation. Next thread please......
Keep telling yourself what ever you want to, the BCS game is still up for grabs.
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look at the points, that is a HUGE gap between 2nd and 3rd place. almost a full point, that's alot of making up to do.

as long as texas dominates games, they'll be there. in some way, i hope va tech wins out and gets screwed so i can hear beamer bitch and moan. maybe the bcs will come to an end soon
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look at the points, that is a HUGE gap between 2nd and 3rd place. almost a full point, that's alot of making up to do.

as long as texas dominates games, they'll be there. in some way, i hope va tech wins out and gets screwed so i can hear beamer bitch and moan. maybe the bcs will come to an end soon
Well if they win out they will gain points on Texas because even the human factor will change. The pollsters will recognize that VT is a better program than most think just like in 1999 and they will end up in the BCS championship game.
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The pollsters will recognize that VT is a better program than most think just like in 1999 and they will end up in the BCS championship game.
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Well if they win out they will gain points on Texas because even the human factor will change. The pollsters will recognize that VT is a better program than most think just like in 1999 and they will end up in the BCS championship game.

Point is that RARELY happens.

Texas has GAINED points on VTech in the harris poll over the past three weeks.

Texas has taken 5 more first place votes away from USC over the past three weeks.

If Texas wins out convincingly they will be #2 assuming USC doesn't lose. VTech is going to have a hard time gaining on Texas when Texas is gaining on USC itself. Makes the gain/lost moot.

You make it sound like all of a sudden UT is having some breakout year compared to VTech when infact they have had the much more glamourous win/loss over the past 2-3 years. Pollsters don't care what you did back in 99. They care about what you have done this year and how (if) you carried momentum from the previous year(s). Texas has done that... VTech hasn't.

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Bowl games not included

Texas

99 9-4
00 9-2
01 10-2
02 10-2
03 10-2
04 10-1
Total 58-13

VTech
99 11-0
00 10-1
01 8-3
02 9-4
03 8-4
04 10-2
Total 56-14

Pretty even... but Texas holds the edge with a 'game of the year' type win at the Rose Bowl last year and a 14 game winning streak. They will stay #2 convincingly until they lose...
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as long as texas gets #1 or #2 in the final BCS standings, that is all that matters. that'll mean that they play for the ADT trophy. NO ONE in college football right now is able to complete with TEXAS if TEXAS plays the up to their potential.


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Not to mention that Texas has been widening the gap tween itself and VT, while simutaneously closing the gap with USC.


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Point is that RARELY happens.

Texas has GAINED points on VTech in the harris poll over the past three weeks.

Texas has taken 5 more first place votes away from USC over the past three weeks.

If Texas wins out convincingly they will be #2 assuming USC doesn't lose. VTech is going to have a hard time gaining on Texas when Texas is gaining on USC itself. Makes the gain/lost moot.

You make it sound like all of a sudden UT is having some breakout year compared to VTech when infact they have had the much more glamourous win/loss over the past 2-3 years. Pollsters don't care what you did back in 99. They care about what you have done this year and how (if) you carried momentum from the previous year(s). Texas has done that... VTech hasn't.

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Bowl games not included

Texas

99 9-4
00 9-2
01 10-2
02 10-2
03 10-2
04 10-1
Total 58-13

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99 11-0
00 10-1
01 8-3
02 9-4
03 8-4
04 10-2
Total 56-14

Pretty even... but Texas holds the edge with a 'game of the year' type win at the Rose Bowl last year and a 14 game winning streak. They will stay #2 convincingly until they lose...

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Not to mention that Texas has been widening the gap tween itself and VT, while simutaneously closing the gap with USC.
Well VT did a little last night to close the gap.
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Well VT did little last night to close the gap.
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Well VT did a little last night to close the gap.
BC was right in the thick of things at the end of the third quarter.

Texas has put everyteam (except OSU) to sleep by the middle of the the 2nd.

VTech needs big blowout wins.

30-10 isn't going to cut it. In the day and age of the BCS you need headliner victories. It also doesn't help that a mediocre performance by VTech was on Thurs night.

If USC and UT both put up massive wins VTech becomes lost in the shuffle of Saturday football.
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Well if they win out they will gain points on Texas because even the human factor will change. The pollsters will recognize that VT is a better program than most think just like in 1999 and they will end up in the BCS championship game.
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Not that it matters, but Texas should miss the #1 BCS spot by .0003 this week.

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without Shockley, georga goes down to florida saturday. with shockley they beat bama in the sec championship game, if lsu doesn't beat bama first. Va Tech will lose tonight or against miami. so you see, i'm not worried.


Besides, the only people keeping texas out of the rose bowl, assuming they go undeated, is texas themselves.


there, end of conversation. Next thread please......


i told yall this should've been the last post of this thread
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